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Zionists , Stop the War Against Iran Now!

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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 03:46 AM
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Originally posted by BRITWARRIOR

Originally posted by Enemyc0mbatant




Sounds like you're the one full of twisted hatred my friend, no offence when this religious nut attitude changes the world will be a better place, you are all Satans work imho, all any of you religious do is take utter nonsense and spread hatred and kill in the names of your lord, to me this sound like a plague, if you had took a calm & political approach your opinion may have held some weight but you chose religious deluded nut job approach,

If only both side could civilized, the problem here is neither side wish to do so, i can honestly see it ending in one side or the other turning into glass and teaching mankind a big lesson,religion is bad and men are pathetic and stupid

Hahaha I'm not religious whatsoever... I have read many parts of the bible and it is quite amazing how some of the stories actually reflect the current situation.


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edit on 10-2-2012 by intrepid because: Racist material removed from the quote.




posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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Please stop spreading Ignorance. Not since the beginning of time has there ever been a nation called Palestine. Palestine was a REGION in biblical times.

By your logic, Iraqis, Jordanians, parts of Saudi Arabia and Lebanese are also Palestinians.

Yassar Arafat invented the term for the Arab people living in Israel.


It is not matter of terms and words , it is about what happened in deir yassin massacre or other terrors

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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You are sadly mistaken. It is Iran who is provoking a war that the west do not want and then try to hide behind Russia and China for protection. They are using Syria and Lebanon to antagonise those Iran sees as their enemies


Iran is just saying Israel is the bully in the region.

It is the root of all tensions , all the divide and conquer plans are meant to serve Israeli regime.

And that is how you interpret Iran as demanding war?



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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the cartoon is a bit racist/funny but whatever, you guys should stop blaming jewish people, or any other religious group, and start blaming "the bad guys"


I never blame Jewish people. I think they are thee bad guys (i,e the Zionists) that I blame. You see, there is another term for those people.

I am not a fan of ahmadinejad , but studying about ww2 history helped me know that Holocaust is more like a legend than real. ( there was some disease and people were burnt to stop spreading ).

Zionists are to take over the universe , but they are just dreaming.

I don't want the whole universe , I just want a little piece of land in my country.

But those people are not going to stop their greed.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 10:34 AM
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I think its time that we just sat back and let these countries destroy each other, and the sooner the better.


This is not how it's going to end.

US is under so much dept and needs a reason to distract it's people .

So , as soon as Israel (Zionist state made by US funders of Zionism ) is in (a fake ) danger , will be a good reason for America to involve in.

And as much as the whole world is sick of US war-mongering , other super powers will step in.

(but it is told that war could happen between China-US or Russia-US without involving Iran)



Telling the Zionists to stop the war is like telling a child to stop picking their nose. We all know that they will keep doing it.







This Crap is all about religion, The Zionists and Jews think there god is the almighty, the muslims think their god is the almighty and i think both gods are BS and all religion is full of S***. Until we see the death of religion we wont see the death of war , and that IS fact.


I think you should read more books and history about Jews.

but I explain about Islam. Islam and 12th Imam is about one man who will step in as soon as Muslims want him and obey him.

Even when he is in the position of power , he will not be a war-monger demanding other countries bow at his feet.

As much as Muslims should choose to obey him , it is clear that it is not matter of invasion and killing.

But since I am familiar with agendas of Zionism , and I read the full story of Palestine , I see that those Zionist destroy every thing standing in their way.

MY analysis : Hitler was a Zionist who just started movement toward NWO. He was the one who killed Jews standing in his way . Then he was the one helping legitimating establishment of Zionist state.

reply to Zionism
 


You can also watch this documentary "illuminazi" helping you know the shadow govt in US.

The U.S. President Barack Obama was pandering to the pro-Israeli lobby AIPAC when he gave a speech there, so says political commentator James Morris.

[Face to Face] Cynthia McKinney, Former US Congresswoman - 20May2011 - English
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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by hmdphantom
 
Oh goody! Yet another evil Israel, sweet and innocent Iran thread.
*yawn*

hmdphantom, I have questions for you.

Where do you stand on the issue of the protestors that the Iranian regime crushed, in 2009?

Where you out there protesting?
Or were you one of the thugs, killing innocents?



great reply . + stars.

I just was gathering info about the whole event from the beginning.

I wasn't on the streets , but I supported the movement as much as I was thinking it is going to understanding the truth.

But as much as I stood for the green movement , I just never found facts that there was a huge deception in the election in Iran.

But BBC and VOA and other western media proved me that they just want my people stand in the front line , so that they could follow their agendas.

And because I was meeting people in our neighbor countries , I saw them in so much pain and far from development.

I just found the western media , the green movement leaders as liars.

And those guys are now getting what they deserve.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by sonnny1
 



The OP will have problems getting onto ATS if he is indeed living in Iran......Unless Iran lets him on............


You're wrong.

Those who can afford a computer and an internet connection can get access to ATS.

ATS is NOT, I repeat, NOT a website that is blocked in Iran.

A lot of sites are but ATS is not.

So don't jump to conclusions if you don't know a couple of facts first.


You are a very interesting guy just remind me of my friends in university.

You come by logic. But it is not what bullies lean on. It is their guns they lean on.

And ATS is just a making front for these guys.

They are war-mongers as long as they have technology. Look as the threads they make here and there.

listen , ....

you can hear their war-cry.

Watch this documentary "illuminazi" it contains much facts about these guys.

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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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This is how Zionists have been playing games for centuries.


I imagine that was a slip up; for centuries? Zionism has been around no more then 130 years. And counting from Herzl and the first Zionist conference, 115 years.

So by "zionists have been playing games for centuries", I suppose, unconsciously at least, you meant to say "Jews" have been playing games for centuries.

Whether it was conscious or unconscious, it is ample proof of how completely and ridiculously mislead the majority of you "anti-zionist" are. You cant even get the duration of the thing you hate most - Zionism - correct!



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by hmdphantom
 





This is how Zionists have been playing games for centuries.


I imagine that was a slip up; for centuries? Zionism has been around no more then 130 years. And counting from Herzl and the first Zionist conference, 115 years.

So by "zionists have been playing games for centuries", I suppose, unconsciously at least, you meant to say "Jews" have been playing games for centuries.

Whether it was conscious or unconscious, it is ample proof of how completely and ridiculously mislead the majority of you "anti-zionist" are. You cant even get the duration of the thing you hate most - Zionism - correct!



You just jump to the conclusion fast.

Those people (i,e Zionists) have been around as long as you can not imagine.

But they consider themselves to be Jews.

They are the ones who are proud of killing prophets even now.

They are the ones who are running the shadow government (freemasonry)

They are the ones who built the white-house building , did the paintings , built supreme court of Israel , brought obelisks to Vatican , Built churches ( and made the paintings ).

They have different organizations in different countries with different names.

But the purpose is one , to accomplish One World Govt.

And those who ant to put them in different categories , are not seeing input/output of these machines.
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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by sonnny1
 



The OP will have problems getting onto ATS if he is indeed living in Iran......Unless Iran lets him on............


You're wrong.

Those who can afford a computer and an internet connection can get access to ATS.

ATS is NOT, I repeat, NOT a website that is blocked in Iran.

A lot of sites are but ATS is not.

So don't jump to conclusions if you don't know a couple of facts first.


Read the article.

They will be checking your ID's at the door.They are also doing it,so they are not vulnerable to cyber attack. They are also doing it,because of upcoming elections. So yes,It would be a lot harder to access the internet from Iran.





igy , igy , igy.

When you are just fed with governmental ...... , you will always get same result from what you think.

There are other guys here in Iran , much educated and informed telling you ATS is not #1 website visited by Iranian , you just insist on what you knew.

I should add that ATS is not #1 website met by american people , too.

alexa

ATS is not #1 and you are not living in the center of universe.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by hmdphantom
 





This is how Zionists have been playing games for centuries.


I imagine that was a slip up; for centuries? Zionism has been around no more then 130 years. And counting from Herzl and the first Zionist conference, 115 years.

So by "zionists have been playing games for centuries", I suppose, unconsciously at least, you meant to say "Jews" have been playing games for centuries.

Whether it was conscious or unconscious, it is ample proof of how completely and ridiculously mislead the majority of you "anti-zionist" are. You cant even get the duration of the thing you hate most - Zionism - correct!



Perhaps some people need an educated explanation about Herzl / Zionism.

Herzl had to get the concept from somewhere.

I don't know enough about the deep philosophies.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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Those people have been around as long as you can not imagine.


And you base this on...............?????




They are the ones who are proud of killing prophets even now.

Ahh. OK. You push the most ignorant brand of antisemitism: Islamic Jew hatred.




They are the ones who are running the shadow government (freemasonry)


You really don't know a thing about either Judaism, or Freemasonry. As someone who has studied both, they are world's apart. There is absolutely no essential link between Judaism and Freemasonry. The former theology completely contradicts the latter's gnosticism.

As a matter of fact, Freemasonry has much more in common with sufi and Islamic thinking than with Judaism, despite Freemasonry's theft and use of biblical symbolism (which is meant along Christian lines of thinking, as opposed to Jewish)



They are the ones who built the white-house building , did the paintings , built supreme court of Israel , brought obelisks to Vatican , Built churches ( and made the paintings ).


Wow. What an elaborate plot indeed! Again, what is your proof for this? What are you basing this all upon?




But the purpose is one , to accomplish One World Govt.


So you're conflating Zionism, a late 19th century movement to establish a Jewish state in Palestine, with the "Illuminati"? Even though, historically and ideologically speaking, these two movements have nothing at all in common?

I guess it serves the interests of the gnostic Muslim Jew haters to just mindlessly group contemporary conspiracy theories with their historical and theologically justified (in the Hadith) contempt for the Jew and his religion.

How amazing it is, again, that someone like yourself who so clearly bases his argument on religious bigotry can muster so many stars for his thread - from the liberal moronic anti-zionists, who could probably care less, and would probably befriend Hitler, if it meant opposing something as tremendously popular as 'anti-zionism'.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by 1nOne
The children of Zion are the spawn of Satan.

They toil to no end with the sole intent of leading humanity astray from spiritual realisation.
In every possible way, Zionist Jews purposely misguide us into supplanting true religious understanding with lesser forms of materialism; Atheism; obeisance to the laws of man; xenophobia, fear and suspicion instead of love and honour of one's fellow man.

Zionists are war mongers, usurers, liars, pimps and extortionists.
Rulers of the porn industry and the gambling industry: they're heavily involved in organised crime, loansharking and gun-running. Their coup de grace to all this is the coup d'etat: corrupt, divide and conquer. Usurpers by direct or indirect means replacing God's countries with Communist/Fascist dystopias.

Self-named materialists: Gold(berg); Silver(stein); Diamond; Perl(man); Crystal, etc...
They hide in plain sight.



Revelation 2:9
"I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."


great,

They are war-mongers but in fact they use ordinary people to fight for them as their sheep.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 11:35 AM
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Ahh. OK. You push the most ignorant brand of antisemitism: Islamic Jew hatred.


Watch this documentary "illuminazi" and see that young man who says we are proud of killing Jesus.

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antisemitism


Where are you from ?

Don't believe me ?

Look who runs those film companies.all big companies. Blood suckers on this planet. Oil suckers. Sex industry bosses , bank owners (usury spreaders who used bench in Venise)

Maybe ignorance is the best way to sleep well at night.
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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen

Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by hmdphantom
 





This is how Zionists have been playing games for centuries.


I imagine that was a slip up; for centuries? Zionism has been around no more then 130 years. And counting from Herzl and the first Zionist conference, 115 years.

So by "zionists have been playing games for centuries", I suppose, unconsciously at least, you meant to say "Jews" have been playing games for centuries.

Whether it was conscious or unconscious, it is ample proof of how completely and ridiculously mislead the majority of you "anti-zionist" are. You cant even get the duration of the thing you hate most - Zionism - correct!



Perhaps some people need an educated explanation about Herzl / Zionism.

Herzl had to get the concept from somewhere.

I don't know enough about the deep philosophies.



I tell you.

After they (Israelite) worshiped the golden cow made by Summary, Mosses put a curse on them "you will scattered on the earth"

They decided to stand against Mosses words and make him wrong.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by InfoKartel
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The Zionists who founded Israel did it for a political reason. Many of them were already wealthy people.


Have you ever done any research on the Islamic revolution? Or the Mullahs? Their version of Islam is a political tool, EXACTLY like Zionism.

So I don't know when you're going to wake up and smell the coffee.


Maybe you don't know about history of Shiat , then blame it on those religious leaders.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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Watch this documentary "illuminazi" and see that young man who says we are proud of killing Jesus.


So one Jew who says something stupid is an indictment on all Jews??

What a reasonable person you are!




Where are you from ?


Thank God, I was born in a sane country, unlike yourself, clearly.



Maybe ignorance is the best way to sleep well at night.


You would know.




Would Allah - if he is a God of justice - want man to base his hatred on something he isn't thoroughly knowledgeable about? Do you see the obvious dangers in that? Is there anything more cruel and invidious than treating the innocent as guilty? And subjecting them to a treatment they don't deserve? Or would it be more prudent, conversely, if you take your religion seriously, and God seriously, and instead of joining the usually mindless mob opinion of "Jews are evil", you have the courage - as I have, seeing I study anything before I make an opinion about it - to read something about Judaism; learn about the religion of the Jews, before you castigate each and every Jew, or Jewish leader, as a "killer of prophets". This would be good thinking, and high morality, and a testament to the dignity of your own religion.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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So one Jew who says something stupid is an indictment on all Jews??

What a reasonable person you are!


I believe that Zionists just say we are Jews but they simply ignore Mosses words who said "you will be scattered on earth"

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what is you answer to this :



Look who runs those film companies.all big companies. Blood suckers on this planet. Oil suckers. Sex industry bosses , bank owners (usury spreaders who used bench in Venise)


Who let you to take usury from none-jews ?

And who let you to accuse god's prophets (David pbuh) of having sexual affairs with other people and murdering for these affairs ?

Who let you accuse Solomon for being a magician ?

Jews are not evil , but Zionists are.

Those who don't obey their prophet are no true followers. they are liars.

Zionists are the same who planned to worship the golden cow.

But Jews are simply so called followers of Moses , who can be believer or liar.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by hmdphantom



igy , igy , igy.

When you are just fed with governmental ...... , you will always get same result from what you think.

There are other guys here in Iran , much educated and informed telling you ATS is not #1 website visited by Iranian , you just insist on what you knew.

I should add that ATS is not #1 website met by american people , too.

alexa

ATS is not #1 and you are not living in the center of universe.


No one said ATS is.......


I said Iran is bracing for Internet regulations......

Its in the article.

But those in the Government should have no problem accessing sites like ATS........



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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I believe that Zionists just say we are Jews but they simply ignore Mosses words who said "you will be scattered on earth"


I really, cannot for the life of me overlook this habit of yours - and of so many other people - to conflate, or combine ideas, of Zionism with the Illuminati. It ISN'T fair, or justified, because it isn't based on any reality! It's just taking one movement - Zionism - which has to do with establishing a Jewish state in the ancient homeland of the Jewish people, and joining that movement, ignoring it's origins and foundational literature, with the word "illuminati" with it's grandiose project of a new world order, based on ANYTHING BUT Jewish Theological thought and morality.

The ideology of the Illuminati, and not simply the Bavarian Illuminati of Weischaupt, but the "illuminati", as in "the illuminated" ones, is in Gnosticism. It is inherently aristocratic in nature, and those Jews who seem to occupy a high place in contemporary society, such as the Rothschilds/Warburgs/Schiffs and other banker/industrialist families calling themselves "Jews" - they are not Zionists; the idea of Zionism, either in it's Jewish religious context, or it's historical political context, is anathema to them. Yet still - we find people assigning this term to a group of people who ironically enough, opposed Zionism in it's earliest days.

I agree that there are Jews of great power in banking and media; I also think such Jews have a 'monopoly' of a sort in such areas. But I also understand that they are firmly aware of what their presence in such positions of authority casts on the Jewish people at large, and despite this, they could care less. If Jews were so powerful - and if a Jewish cabal of "zionists" really ruled the world, why wouldn't they use their collective power in a more economical way? Why the need for a holocaust? Why not get all the governments of Europe/America - which they supposedly control, to establish a Jewish state without all these unnecessary means? Why not plant their agents in Arab lands, and persuade the Arabs through gifts and other incentives to give the Jews Palestine? Let me anticipate your response to that: because Arabs, or Muslims, care about other Muslims, and would never give up their land freely to infidels? Let me tell you something. The Effendi has more in common with the European Noble then with the Muslim peasant. THAT'S a fact. Despite sharing the same religion - they do not quite share the same beliefs, inasmuch as the letter - the peasant - is a follower of dogma/doctrine, or the 'exoteric', while the former, like his European correlate, follows the eosteric, or Sufi doctrine. Like the European Noble, the Effendi, or Arab Noble/Emir, exploited the serfs with as little remorse as the former. They don't quite care. As a matter of fact, the Arabs of the Levant were so impoverished by the rogue Effendis who ruled that province of the Ottoman empire, that when the Jews came into the area in the late 19th century (not including the majority Jewish population in Jerusalem, or the Jewish populations in Safed, Tiberias, Hebron, and other minor towns/cities) they brought RELIEF to the Arab masses. And BTW, how did the Jews get the land that Arabs today seek to take away from them? They bought them - fair and square, from the same Arab Effendis who oppressed their Muslim 'brethren'.

If the elitist Jew was as powerful - and so clearly interested in defending Jewish interests (which he is ANYTHING BUT) why take these roundabout routs to achieving ends which up until now has proved so detrimental to Zionist interests?

Joining the gnostic/sabbatean/secular spirituality of the powerful Jew with Zionism - to establish a homeland for the Jewish people, simply doesn't make sense when analyzed. The former wants to do away with Judaism, which he has mostly already done, but even more so, he wants to misrepresent Jews, both in his standing as a Jewish industrialist/banking/media aristocrat, and in his manipulation of the Jewish state, it's media, and most clearly, it's politics.

The Jews you imagine as Zionists are anti-zionists - they are against Judaism, against a Jewish state, and are FOR those same things all (mostly gentile) Illuminists want: whether that be a democratic 'world society' as the 33rd degree honorary freemason Manly P Hall wrote in his 'secret destiny of America', or a socialist world order, as Alice Bailey seems to imagine to be the end goal. Perhaps they are one and the same thing?

Whichever, it has nothing to do with Judaism or Zionism.
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