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Zionists , Stop the War Against Iran Now!

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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by casenately
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it is still unconfirmed who dropped the drone. I have heard everything from the Chinese helped them, or we just lost our satellite link to it. It is still not proven that Iran did it, have proof they did? PROOF, not heresy.





(CNN) -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday that his country has "been able to control" the U.S. drone that Iran claims it recently brought down, Venezuelan state TV reported. "There are people here who have been able to control this spy plane," Ahmadinejad told VTV. "Those who have been in control of this spy plane surely will analyze the plane's system. Furthermore, the systems of Iran are so advanced also, like the system of this plane."


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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 03:08 AM
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that is his-say. Not proof. So if I said I did it you would believe me.
He also said they would block the straights, an impossibility for them.

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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by casenately
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that is hearsay. Not proof. So if I said I did it you would believe me.
He also said they would block the straights, an impossibility for them.



That's "his-say".


As I said,I "heard" that the Iranians are good at controlling US drones. I never once stated it as a fact,by claiming it as one........



Heavy dose of sarcasm in my words........


Sigh....



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 03:19 AM
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take a deep breath, its not that big a deal, here I will fix it if it makes you feel better. little anal are we?



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 03:23 AM
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no you said their cyber division was "good enough" to drop our drone. Is it because they have magic, or because you implied they did it or could.

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and before with the WMD. I was responding to looneyconservative, and you chimed in. so yes you did not mention them, but the person I was talking to did.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by casenately
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take a deep breath, its not that big a deal, here I will fix it if it makes you feel better. little anal are we?




You just have to "anal"yze what I was saying,that's all.

I was actually mocking the Iranians Government for its claims, without proof..........

We are ALL waiting for proof. Right?


Have a good night..........



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 03:32 AM
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i don't even know what Zionism is...

does it mean they are fanatic and want to convert everyone as badly as certain types of christians/etc. like to try to convert other people?

no offence, just wondering.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by InfoKartel


I am telling you this, the government systems to control the internet in Iran are worth jack #.


Your right.

I forgot you own credentials on Iranian cyber security...........


From what I hear,Iran Cyber warfare division can drop US drones from the sky. They cant be too bad,hey?


Yes and while you are here trying to play mr. popular with blog posts and propaganda I'm giving you news from the people themselves. From reality. From experience. You can check my previous posts on Iran for accuracy. I don't do this for fame and I sure as hell am not charging money for it, I'm doing it to inform you outsiders of what is going on, on the inside, to combat ignorance and to create mutual understanding. (and you don't have people trying to fake your name on facebook ;-) )

They dropped a US drone from the sky...does that mean they can control all of the internet? Oh wait, no, that's called a false argument. You do know facebook is "blocked" in Iran right? So go figure how much the internet is controlled if there is prostitution(amongst other things) going on there.

Anyways, it's your choice to believe what you want, I can't force you.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 03:40 AM
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well, for those that dont know.


it's a political ideology, that is in essence a political interpretation of scripture, that by its core belief wishes to establish the Jewish state of Israel, in fulfillment of a prophesy, and promise by god to the Jewish people.


Zionism is a movement founded by Theodor Herzl in 1896 whose goal is the return of Jews to Eretz Yisrael, or Zion, the Jewish synonym for Jerusalem and the Land of Israel.

The name of "Zionism" comes from the hill Zion, the hill on which the Temple of Jerusalem was situated.

Supporters of this movement are called "Zionists".

At the outset of the Jews' exile to Babylonia, the Prophet Jeremiah, in chapter 29 of his book proclaimed God's message to all the exiledVerse seven reads, "Seek out the welfare of the city to which I have exiled you and pray for it to the Almighty, for through its welfare will you have welfare." This has been a cornerstone of Jewish "foreign policy" how to behave in the lands of the nations throughout our ensuing exiles till this very day.

There Jeremiah adds in the name of God (verses 8 and 9), "Do not let your false prophets among you and your sorcerers seduce you, do not head your dreamers which you cause them to dream. For they speak falsely to you in My name. I did not send them." This too has applied to all the would-be misleaders of Jewry whether they presented themselves as prophets or as sorcerers or as dreamers of national aspirations.

King Solomon in Song of Songs thrice adjured the "daughters of Jerusalem" not to arouse or bestir the love until it is ready." The Talmud explains that Jews have been foresworn, by three strong oaths, not to ascend to the Holy Land as a group using force, not to rebel against the governments of countries in which we live, and not by our sins, to prolong the coming of the Messiah; as is written in Tractate Kesubos 111a .



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 03:42 AM
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no problem. We are indeed waiting for proof.

it would be nice to not hear anything about what they find...lol I cant wait.


you too



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 04:24 AM
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The children of Zion are the spawn of Satan.

They toil to no end with the sole intent of leading humanity astray from spiritual realisation.
In every possible way, Zionist Jews purposely misguide us into supplanting true religious understanding with lesser forms of materialism; Atheism; obeisance to the laws of man; xenophobia, fear and suspicion instead of love and honour of one's fellow man.

Zionists are war mongers, usurers, liars, pimps and extortionists.
Rulers of the porn industry and the gambling industry: they're heavily involved in organised crime, loansharking and gun-running. Their coup de grace to all this is the coup d'etat: corrupt, divide and conquer. Usurpers by direct or indirect means replacing God's countries with Communist/Fascist dystopias.

Self-named materialists: Gold(berg); Silver(stein); Diamond; Perl(man); Crystal, etc...
They hide in plain sight.



Revelation 2:9
"I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."


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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by hmdphantom

Originally posted by Ben81
We cant .. it is now inevitable

only China and Russia can stop it


In fact it is.

But it is Zionists who rule in USA.

You just choose between what they decide.

Then you are not doing anything much.

Your KIDDING ME RIGHT?!? Let me give you a clue....believe it or not ...guess who IRANS best friend is at the MOMENT? A BEST FRIEND who is saving their ASSES by forbidding ISRAEL to BOMB Iranian Nuclear Sites...and if Israel were to do this...it would make most of Iran and the Middle East Radioactive!

You know who that Iranian best friend is....THE UNITED STATES! Israel wanted to bomb Iran months ago but we stopped it....and if there is to be a U.S.?Iranian War it will be because of IRANS STUPIDITY!

The only way there will be a war is if Irans leadership which curently has about 12 to 18 months left to survive before Irans Pro-Democracy Movement Kicks their ASSES out of Power....it will be WAR because Iran either tries to block the Strait or even worse...Iran declares it has a Nuclear Weapon.

In Either Case the U.S. will have to go in...the U.S. Navies Fifth Fleet will destroy the entire Iranian Navy....surface ships and Subs....as well as destroy the entire Iranian Airforce. Then Thousands of U.S. Special Forces along with thousands of Airborne Rangers will secure ALL Iranian Nuclear Sites...Even the ones they think we don't know about.

The USAF will use for the first time Non-Nuclear Very Powerful EMP devices to render any Iranian Army or land counter attack Innert. One of these EMP devices will fit in the internal bomb bay of an F-22 Raptor while 18 to 27 larger EMP's will be carried by a single B-2 Stealth Bomber.

Most likely NOTHING WILL HAPPEN UNLESS IRAN IS EITHER INSANE OR SUICIDAL. Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by SoymilkAlaska
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i don't even know what Zionism is...

does it mean they are fanatic and want to convert everyone as badly as certain types of christians/etc. like to try to convert other people?

no offence, just wondering.


True Zionists were the people who founded the country of Israel as the land of the Jews. That was the essence of Zionism. Nowdays everyone who is pro-Israeli is automatically classified as a Zionist, specially on these boards.

You will get many idiotic answers that go as far as "Zionism is a cult that tries to take over the world!!1". I advise you to do your own research and not listen to people with a clear bias.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 05:08 AM
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Originally posted by 1nOne
Zionists are war mongers, usurers, liars, pimps and extortionists.


PIMPS? LMFAO!



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 05:11 AM
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Nowdays everyone who is pro-Israeli is automatically classified as a Zionist, specially on these boards.


Not by me though, you see, I'm pro-Israel in the sense that I firmly believe if the people are stupid enough they can have their "own country". Just like I believe if people are stupid enough, they should join the army/cops etc.

There are families inside Israel that have not done any wrong, or what about the Israeli children that are innocent? I do not believe it is justified to judge them or lump them together with Zionist nor do I believe that Jewish equals to Zionism.

I don't like Zionism though. In my eyes, Zionists are the counterpart of Iran's religious lunatics. I don't dislike Iranian people...but I sure as hell dislike the religious authorities. I dislike both the Zionist nutcases and the religious authority nutjobs in Iran. Because they are halting our progression as a species.

Thankfully, both the Zionist and their counterparts are a dying breed. I'll raise my glass to that and hope that by the end of my life here on Earth I'll see both of these sum'bitches go the way of the dinosaur.
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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 05:25 AM
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It does not matter if Zionism is dying or not. Zionism already happened. The Jewish land of Israel is here, is it not?

It also seem as if you have the impression that Zionism has a religious aspect to it. It doesn't. Zionism and religion can't be that far apart.
The Zionists who founded Israel did it for a political reason. Many of them were already wealthy people.
Not even one of them, in his right mind, left everything he had and owned, only to fulfill an ideology because of his religion told him so. Call it a political reason, a social reason - it does not matter - they wanted a place of their own.
(The debate whether it was justified is not something I'm going to discuss)
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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 05:36 AM
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The Zionists who founded Israel did it for a political reason. Many of them were already wealthy people.


Have you ever done any research on the Islamic revolution? Or the Mullahs? Their version of Islam is a political tool, EXACTLY like Zionism.

So I don't know when you're going to wake up and smell the coffee.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 05:49 AM
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I'll drink my coffee after you realize what Zionism is, what it was based upon and most importantly that it served it's purpose 60+ years ago.

Zionism. Plain and simple.

Zionism is a Jewish political movement that, in its broadest sense, has supported the self-determination of the Jewish people in a sovereign Jewish national homeland.


Feel free to look for the religious concepts of Zionism in that page. You'll find it very small.
The only religious aspect of it is:

In the 1920s and 1930s Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook (the first Chief Rabbi of Palestine) and his son Rabbi Zevi Judah Kook saw great religious and traditional value in many of Zionism's ideals, while rejecting its anti-religious undertones. They taught that Orthodox (Torah) Judaism embraces and mandates Zionism's positive ideals, such as the ingathering of exiles, and political activity to create and maintain a Jewish political entity in the Land of Israel.

The exact same Ideals as Zionism as it is. Gathering scattered exiled Jews from around the world, giving them a sovereign Jewish nation and maintaining it.


Have fun.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 05:50 AM
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Please tell me you're not one of those booknerds that never stepped foot outside or communicated with another person to realize that the meaning of words changes with time.

By god man...REALLY?



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 05:58 AM
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Booknerds? Really? Have I pummeled you that hard you have to dive as low as calling me a booknerd only because I cite my claims? Umm... Lol. Call me a booknerd if you must. As for going "out", I can assure you I have been more "out" in one year than you probably will in your entire life, and that's just a part of my job. I am also a married man with a house and a household to maintain, so do you really believe calling me a booknerd is going to shut me up? This isn't highschool, buddy.

I'll tell you this though, I come from a line of family of Zionists that physically helped creating the state of Israel. Other than what the average booknerd can learn from books and information sources, I learned from first hand witnesses.

Now, if we can put these petty name calling aside as it would result in nothing better than the both of us banned and our posts removed, we can continue this debate. Not that there is even anything to continue, but this is still me being polite and saying please shut the hell up with your silly name calling.
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