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Leaked video of freemason-show.

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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by duffdean
Why doesnt the OP post up the rest of the video? surely more than that was recorded.


Because it's not the op who did the video, neither was it the op who posted it on youtube.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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From what i see in the video there is no way to ID this lodge
There is certainly enough in this video to identify the lodge, assuming we can find pictures of inside this particular lodge.


Masonry does not discriminate against me because of my Spinal Disease
I'm sorry if my pointing out your spelling error offended you, I just assumed that a 32 degree Mason would have handled quite a bit of paper work in their time, and would have a healthy respect for tidy and proper grammar. But if it really is because of a health condition then I am very sorry for making an issue of it.
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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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It looks 'legit' based on what exactly?

Although remaining clothed, she's doing a typical stripper-type titillation dance - where are people getting 'ritual' from? The men aren't wearing Masonic ceremonial attire anyway.

And someone's questioning whether she's going to be sacrificed!?!

Lots of imaginations running riot imo.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 09:49 AM
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A lot of "masons" were freely bumped up in their degrees not too long ago. The organization is just like the vatican once was in respect to it's level of "infiltration" if I may be so bold. But this is sort of the whole point. While you spend your time investigating this organization...



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 09:51 AM
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This is not a Freemason show, at least not a traditional legitamate Freemason meeting or Blue lodge.

A: Blue lodges do not look like that
B: Woman are not allowed

Why even bother, this is retarded...

Sniper



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by marinesniper0351
B: Woman are not allowed


There you have it. At least in respects to "official" meetings. I'd be curious to find out where this took place.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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I being a traveling man would be more curious in seeing her take off her cloths, screw the what, who, when, why and where crap...where I am stationed "not a lot of woman"... : )

Sniper



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:08 AM
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Last response and I am off this thread (its silly), sacrificed...really just from watching her dance with her cloths on...some peoples imagination...really...I have an idea, GET A GIRLFRIEND or if you are to mal-addjusted to society to talk to people because you spend all your time online GET A DOG...

Sniper...my fire watch now...later



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:08 AM
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lol.. well, I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, it's a hardship shared by the higher ranks too. Respect your efforts though, will pay off in the end.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:17 AM
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I would like to discuss how evil Democracy is, and how it leads to socialism. (or another damn pyramid scheme)

One could say, that since the Orders of some Lodges are Democratic in nature, that they all are moving in a coordinated way to the same ends.....world socialism. readers, pick your brick.
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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by marinesniper0351
reply to post by modeselektor
 


This is not a Freemason show, at least not a traditional legitamate Freemason meeting or Blue lodge.

A: Blue lodges do not look like that
B: Woman are not allowed

Why even bother, this is retarded...

Sniper


Yet you bothered..



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:35 AM
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Ive read your posts, and I find that this attitude is exactly what keeps people, affiliated or not, blind to the activities of those with real political power.

the skeptics will expect that the facade of do-gooding distracts from the speculative side of the Craft.

its been 6 or 7 pages now on this subject, and no mention of the Great Work? Now, fellows--lets hear what the operative side of the Masons thinks of the Great Work.

I have an ear to hear.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
You sir need to immediately disassociate yourself with anything related to Discordianism.
Heh. And what are YOU doing to emancipate the eschaton? How can you be effective in Operation Mindf*ck if you don't have access to their heads? Hell, when I asked RAW after a lecture, he told me last he'd heard Greg Hill (Mal the Younger) was still working at a bank... If you really want to screw with the straight-laced normals, you have to get among them and gain their trust.

Sounds like you're an armchair Erisian who's never been on the front lines.



you aren't a quantum particle, you can't occupy two different states at the same time. It's one or the other.
Man, you really didn't understand Wilson OR Leary, did you? Cognitive dissonance is all about occupying two states at the same time. That's why it's so effective!



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by Magnivea
reply to post by modeselektor
 


She's not that great of a dancer...
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Are you a woman by any chance?! She had no space to move properly but you can tel from her limited movements that she has the ability and flow to dance very well.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Take a chill pill. It was 2AM when I read this and you really didn't post the best sentence. You could have written that better.

How do 14 men become Masons? Each has their own story, but the fact there has been 14 US Presidents who were Masons does not negate my argument that each Grand Lodge is independent and sovereign, relying on mutual recognition from other Grand Lodges.

Nor do I see how having some Presidents among our famous members negates that we're democratic in nature. We democratically elect our leaders. We democratically pass legislation.

reply to post by ImaFungi
 

Yes to the first.

I'm not sure what you're swinging at with your second question. Yes, we believe in good and evil, but could you clarify objective, absolute good and evil? Do you mean everything is either black or white?

When the Freemasons use "Grand Architect of the Universe (GAOTU)", we are using it as a generic term for our individual belief in a Supreme Being or Creator. For me, GAOTU is the Christian God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

I'd say we're never a grand architect, but we are a Master Mason drawing designs upon our own trestle board whereby we strive to live an excellent life. That is an interesting way to put things.

reply to post by ChaoticOrder
 

Ugh, such a simplistic view. Posting a few pictures and talking about a few famous members does not negate my post, but it is making you look like a jerk.

Do you even realize what decentralized means? Do you know what a confederacy is?

Every non-Mason thinks that everyone whose hand placement is not exact, is somehow connected to Masonry.

You really are an irrational being.

reply to post by ChaoticOrder
 

If those men were duly elected to President, how did they infiltrate? What did they do that was subversive in gaining the title of president? Are we as citizens of the US not entitled to pursue a political career, just because we're Masons? Would you have us treated like 2nd hand citizens, limited in our rights because of your prejudice and bigotry?

reply to post by Shred
 

Technically it wasn't designed by a Mason. L'Enfant is disputed to whether he was actually a Mason or not, but he took the idea of a grid system from Jefferson (not a Mason) and placed radials on it. L'Enfant was eventually fired and two surveyors were hired to redraw. Luckily Bannacker and Ellicot (neither of whom were Masons) had seen the designs prior to L'Enfant's departure so they could regenerate the drawings. Washington was the only Mason remotely connected to the designing of DC. The original design for DC had some inspiration from Karlsruhe.

reply to post by ChaoticOrder
 

Secrecy is not a bad thing. The Bible condones it. This country started out in secrecy. Freemasonry has become less secret in recent years, and yet your ilk isn't satisfied.

People at the top? We've already started a thread on the top Masons.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
And to me that is the most striking difference, and I doubt you would find any lodge any where else with that symbol displayed so prominently, because obviously members might be a bit suss about what it means...


Actually, many lodges have the Eye of Providence displayed in other conspicuous places (just not over the Master's chair), there is one lodge in my district that has it on the lodge walls along with other relevant symbolism. The meaning of the Eye of Providence is explained to the candidate during the degree.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by ShamilAbdullah
Also i would like to note that, i believe this was just a performance of some sorts
notice how it video was cut, to show the more thought provoking part


Way too many pedantic people on forums, why not just add some credible input, or go troll somewhere else?



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
...I just assumed that a 32 degree Mason would have handled quite a bit of paper work in their time...


You can get your 32nd Degree in one weekend and the amount of paper work is limited to filling out the application.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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I was under the impression that Skull & Bones was founded by Masons.

 


So it is mandatory that a Mason be a Bonesman? No... So that means quite little doesn't it.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:49 AM
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reply to post by tpaine1809
 

Symbols are arbitrary and ambiguous, meaning they do not have a singular or exclusive meaning or use by a single culture/group. The 'eye' has been used by different cultures and groups throughout the history of the world. Every symbol has.

reply to post by tpaine1809
 

Then how do you presume to know anything if the actual members "don't know anything". I love how anti-Masons recklessly throw "occult" around as if it will stick. You apparently know nothing of our fraternity or our beliefs as we don't elevate man above God. We're strictly in charge to be pious men and be reverent to God as he is our Creator.


Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Yes, but we have 5 chairs in the East.

You crazy bastards.

reply to post by ChaoticOrder
 

Actually several Lodges I've been to in Italy had a pyramid in them.

reply to post by rainbowbear
 

Democracy is evil? Governing at the consent of the governed is wrong? Freedom is wrong?




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