I thought Libya ia old news now? Isn't it Syria we need to focus on? Where is NATO in Syria? Nowhere.

You got to love these pathetic anti west conspiracy threads, they're comical gold at times

These threads never fail at delivering a few lols

I read the description given watched the videos and see no evidence to suggest the CIA/NATO was involved, i suppose the CIA & NATO forced hundreds of thousands out onto the streets and then ordered those governments they have no relations with to then shoot those people? sure i can buy that,

Lets take the CIA paid mercenaries video for instance, we all know very well Gaddafi shipped them mercenary's in, because his very own air force pilots who defected flew them in from all over Africa to kill the innocent protesters, because his own troops refused to shot there own people, please OP, stop making things up,

Originally posted by BRITWARRIOR
You got to love these pathetic anti west conspiracy threads, they're comical gold at times

These threads never fail at delivering a few lols

I read the description given watched the videos and see no evidence to suggest the CIA/NATO was involved, i suppose the CIA & NATO forced hundreds of thousands out onto the streets and then ordered those governments they have no relations with to then shoot those people? sure i can buy that,

Lets take the CIA paid mercenaries video for instance, we all know very well Gaddafi shipped them mercenary's in, because his very own air force pilots who defected flew them in from all over Africa to kill the innocent protesters, because his own troops refused to shot there own people, please OP, stop making things up,

Don't take our word for it, research for yourself!

Originally posted by jameshawkings
Shame on you for believing the mainstream propaganda without first investigating.

You already know what the mainstream told us during 9/11 and 7/7, so what makes you think they've become honest? What makes you think that the Globalist Bankers and their United Nations have changed their tune, and suddenly turned nice, kind and caring?

People are dying in Libya now, being kept in camps, you're not interested in them, you only care for the foreign funded armed rebels in Syria

What makes you think Syria, Russia & Iran MSN are being truthful?

Gaddafi got what he deserved, its called karma, what happened there is what happens when people have had enough with bad leaders & dictators and want change, its happened plenty of times throughout histery without the CIA involvement, its really no big secret NATO helped remove Gaddafi either is it, he shouldn't have started shooting protester, we done what was asked of us by the UN & Arab League, you don't see Obama popping of occupy protesters do you? lol, no because were civilized for god sake yet you sympathise with him and hate your own government for giving you a better life, uhh? go live there then if you already don't that is

Ok so the CIA NATO are behind it all huh...

Ok so tell me something...

What would it take to organise and convince millions & millions of people who are oh so very HAPPY with there governments to take to the streets and protest? few bags of sweets? a chocolate bar perhaps? hmm possible

What would it take? really think about it, the resources, the man power, its hard enough for operatives to stay under the radar but this would have required an extraordinary effort to pull of, Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, etc etc, come on, be realistic

Sorry, but what the OP claims is just not possible, unless they was all brain washed by CIA hypnotises working overtime, or maybe they had some men in black type flashy thing?

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Originally posted by jameshawkings

Originally posted by BRITWARRIOR
You got to love these pathetic anti west conspiracy threads, they're comical gold at times

These threads never fail at delivering a few lols

I read the description given watched the videos and see no evidence to suggest the CIA/NATO was involved, i suppose the CIA & NATO forced hundreds of thousands out onto the streets and then ordered those governments they have no relations with to then shoot those people? sure i can buy that,

Lets take the CIA paid mercenaries video for instance, we all know very well Gaddafi shipped them mercenary's in, because his very own air force pilots who defected flew them in from all over Africa to kill the innocent protesters, because his own troops refused to shot there own people, please OP, stop making things up,

Don't take our word for it, research for yourself!

Oh believe me i have Mr Hawkings

You clearly didn't research hard enough my friend, or if you did you let your imagination get the better of you, all you need to know is a little word called propaganda, a thing called "the information war" and the fact those people splerting it out don't like the Western world much at all

Its no different then hating your neighbour because he has a better job & car, believe it or not some 3rd world leaders are just as pathetic

Originally posted by BRITWARRIOR

Originally posted by jameshawkings

Originally posted by BRITWARRIOR
You got to love these pathetic anti west conspiracy threads, they're comical gold at times

These threads never fail at delivering a few lols

I read the description given watched the videos and see no evidence to suggest the CIA/NATO was involved, i suppose the CIA & NATO forced hundreds of thousands out onto the streets and then ordered those governments they have no relations with to then shoot those people? sure i can buy that,

Lets take the CIA paid mercenaries video for instance, we all know very well Gaddafi shipped them mercenary's in, because his very own air force pilots who defected flew them in from all over Africa to kill the innocent protesters, because his own troops refused to shot there own people, please OP, stop making things up,

Don't take our word for it, research for yourself!

Oh believe me i have Mr Hawkings

You clearly didn't research hard enough my friend, or if you did you let your imagination get the better of you, all you need to know is a little word called propaganda, a thing called "the information war" and the fact those people splerting it out don't like the Western world much at all

Its no different then hating your neighbour because he has a better job & car, believe it or not some 3rd world leaders are just as pathetic

You don't want to believe that your own government could lie to you, you want it to be someone else's government who lies. Iran have not been pushing for war with anyone, nor have Syria. USA have planned wars for many years, look into the major Not For Profit Foundations, the Reese Commission (on record) spent many years investigating them, and eventually found clear evidence that their main purpose is to involve the USA in a war. The purpose is to bring change in the world, to change the the way we live, a lot easier during wartime.

This coming war in Iran has been lobbied for for many years, that's on record, so then if the USA move their forces next to Iran and some crazy propaganda appears in our papers, you've got to learn that that's not real news, it's to make you accept a war that's been planned for many years; every war needs propaganda to go with it.

You really believe that Iran are mad enough to want to engage in a war of certain death? They'd put up a fight, but would eventually be flattened, they know that. You will say "but what about the Iraq - Iran war?"...Iraq started it, with weapons the US gave them, the US was invading Iran by proxy, Iran were just defending themselves.

Anyway, I don't want to scare you off, I'm glad that you're getting involved in this discussion and thinking about these topics. It's better than if you were watching whatever junk it is they watch on TV these days. If you want to learn you're in the right place. There's a website search available, so if you're willing to go in with an open-mind this is a good place for you to fill your boots with decent information

Originally posted by sir_slide
Not the first time

Reminds me of when those british SAS guys were caught firing into crowds in afghanistan wearing arab clothing. Tanks came in and literally blew the guys out of the jail they were being held in....

Don't let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy story. The Special Forces guys were in Iraq. Undercover operatives blending in dressed as locals to gain intelligence on the local insurgents. They opened fire when their car was stopped by local police militia who took them into custody. The local Police were infiltrated by insurgents who were planning to execute them. The local commander mounted a rescue mission and prevented this from happening. Obviously to the nutty conspiracy people they were out killing and planting bombs in order to fuel the insurgency between the different religious groups in the populace. The insurgents used this tactic too by claiming that the bombs targeting the various religious factions were actually being planted by Mossad Agents.

Originally posted by tommyjo

Originally posted by sir_slide
Not the first time

Reminds me of when those british SAS guys were caught firing into crowds in afghanistan wearing arab clothing. Tanks came in and literally blew the guys out of the jail they were being held in....

Don't let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy story. The Special Forces guys were in Iraq. Undercover operatives blending in dressed as locals to gain intelligence on the local insurgents. They opened fire when their car was stopped by local police militia who took them into custody. The local Police were infiltrated by insurgents who were planning to execute them. The local commander mounted a rescue mission and prevented this from happening. Obviously to the nutty conspiracy people they were out killing and planting bombs in order to fuel the insurgency between the different religious groups in the populace. The insurgents used this tactic too by claiming that the bombs targeting the various religious factions were actually being planted by Mossad Agents.

It's common knowledge that the huge bombs that go off in Iraq and Afghan, in mosques and marketplaces, are CIA/Mossad rather than that old chestnut of the "Suicide Bomber". As if the Iraqis and Afghans would actually want to blow up their own mosques and markets

I've been on the fence about this -- since I really don't know enough to comment.

It just figures that Syria does not have the best of leadership -- but who's splitting hairs since we paid them to torture our renditioned "suspects"?

The main thing this shows is that it looks like the US is serious about invading the nation of Iran, and Syria is just unlucky enough to be in the way.

The world and the media will dance around, and the invasion will be "justified."

>> If the US invades Iran -- it will be on the behest of Israel and of our Nuclear fuel industry -- since the REAL threat of Iran is selling nuclear fuel rods. Eventually, these greedy bastards are going to bite off more than they can chew. I just hope I'm not in-between some formerly decent Iranian in this country and his pent up rage -- because you KNOW there will be blowback and I cannot really blame Iranians. The US has screwed around and terrorized their country for decades. Regardless of what you think of how they run their business -- the US has been the total aggressor. We have supported terrorist cells, we've overthrown their government.

An invasion of Iran will have just as much "honor" as Hitler's invasion of Poland. This is pretty disgusting...

... and of COURSE, the reason to invade Syria will be humanitarian -- it always is.

Originally posted by jameshawkings

It's common knowledge that the huge bombs that go off in Iraq and Afghan, in mosques and marketplaces, are CIA/Mossad rather than that old chestnut of the "Suicide Bomber". As if the Iraqis and Afghans would actually want to blow up their own mosques and markets

Common conspiracy bunk you mean? It is called inter-tribal warfare. Factions have been tearing each other apart since they followed their own version of their religious faiths. It is the same all over the world. Yes the Iraqi's and Afghans target, kill, torture and maim each other over religion and tribal disputes. I suppose you think that the Sunni and Shi'as in Iraq all live happily side by side. Think again? They don't require the mythical 'CIA/Mosad' bogeyman in order to tear each other apart.