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reply posted on 6-2-2012 @ 09:20 PM by WickedStar
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Betelgeuse is the bright star making the right shoulder of Orion.


reply posted on 6-2-2012 @ 09:30 PM by Lagrimas
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Professor Brian Cox says he's hoping to see it blow during his life time, cos it'll be a once in many life times opportunity and he feels he'd be really really lucky to see it. As such I doubt its going to cause earthlings any harm.

Id be interested to see it brighten up the northern hemisphere with a 3 day sun at night later this year, it would be harmless but it certainly would cause a stir.

I personally have some faith in the conspiracy that aliens who are involved with the government might make Betelguese give us a 3 day show later this year as a 'sign in the sky'. That's the conspiracy I believe because I believe Cox to be a illuminati insider... I trust him when he says it wont kill us but I do think that he's been put on tv to bring our attention to the fact that it may blow, and then when it does it'll make me think hmm... he knew it would.

And I know we all know it will go supernova, but im talking time frame wise that he may know exactly when.
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reply posted on 6-2-2012 @ 09:39 PM by Lagrimas
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Oh and just to qualify this mad statement slightly, After the recent star watching special on the BBC there was an after show where Cox and a tv presenter where chatting about the naming of some planets, one in particular that got discovered by a chap in his home via the internet by looking at charts of the wobble the planet was causing to a known star.

When Cox and the presenter where laughing about who gets to name the planets, the presenter said well I suppose we might need to go to a higher authority about this one, and then says rothschild in a really weird way. It was, in all fairness, creepy.


reply posted on 6-2-2012 @ 09:45 PM by WickedStar
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Hahah really is creepy. I don't know than an alien civilization would bring Betelgeuse to supernova just to let us see that they existed...most of us believe they exist anyways. But yeah, that bit about "Rothchild" is strange. Do you have a link to a vid clip for it?


reply posted on 6-2-2012 @ 09:45 PM by pshea38
Originally posted by Lagrimas
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Professor Brian Cox says he's hoping to see it blow during his life time, cos it'll be a once in many life times opportunity and he feels he'd be really really lucky to see it. As such I doubt its going to cause earthlings any harm.

Id be interested to see it brighten up the northern hemisphere with a 3 day sun at night later this year, it would be harmless but it certainly would cause a stir.

I personally have some faith in the conspiracy that aliens who are involved with the government might make Betelguese give us a 3 day show later this year as a 'sign in the sky'. That's the conspiracy I believe because I believe Cox to be a illuminati insider... I trust him when he says it wont kill us but I do think that he's been put on tv to bring our attention to the fact that it may blow, and then when it does it'll make me think hmm... he knew it would.

And I know we all know it will go supernova, but im talking time frame wise that he may know exactly when.
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Yeah, Cox sucks! He is a phoney and stooge.


reply posted on 6-2-2012 @ 09:48 PM by kdog1982



reply posted on 6-2-2012 @ 11:07 PM by veritaslibertas
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Someone told me a story once that a Rothschild can either be a banker or a zoologist. I was told zoology because that way they control what everything is named and how people perceive it. Wouldn't be surprised if they had a hand in naming celestial bodies.


reply posted on 6-2-2012 @ 11:14 PM by ownbestenemy
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I don't know but when I started teaching my children about stars in the sky -- Betelgeuse was the one I started with.

I can only offer naked eye observations and it still has the reddish-orange tint that I have always seen from my lonely spot here on Earth.


reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 07:17 AM by autowrench
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Curious you should mention that. My son has been dreaming of waking up to a red sky, and last night I too had a dream of waking up to a red sky. Red Planet, Red Sky, I guess we will all find out for sure soon, huh?


reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 12:10 PM by PplVSNWO
Don't worry, I don't think Betelgeuse is going supernova anytime soon:

The Mystery of the Shrinking Red Star

The electric model of bright stars shows that there is an exquisitely simple control mechanism introduced by a bright photosphere. The photosphere acts like a junction transistor to regulate the current flow between the star and its environment. It results in a remarkably steady output of light and heat radiation despite a varying power supply. For example, the Sun, viewed in X-rays, is a variable star. X-rays are generated high above the photosphere and are a measure of electrical power input. They reveal the variability of the Sun’s power source. The photosphere generates the radiant output, which is stabilized by its transistor effect.

Dim red stars like Betelgeuse do not have the same power control mechanism. They respond to variation in their power supply instead by varying the surface area of their glowing plasma sheath—in other words, their visible size. Our own Sun varies slightly in size, much to the puzzlement of astrophysicists. However, what is called “the photosphere” of Betelgeuse is physically and electrically nothing like the photosphere of bright stars.

The decrease in diameter of Betelgeuse over 15 years suggests a slow change in the power input to Betelgeuse. Shrinking is a normal response of a glow discharge plasma sheath to an increase in the availability of electrons from the galactic plasma. Such an increase may be due to rising current in the local galactic circuit. Or it may be due to a decrease in dustiness of the plasma near the star (dust particles tend to scavenge electrons). Our Sun registers such a change through the sunspot cycle and X-ray output. It seems likely that Betelgeuse will expand or oscillate in size in future. The presence of hot spots on Betelgeuse should be correlated with changes in its diameter.

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reply posted on 7-2-2012 @ 04:02 PM by xacto
Originally posted by Mogget
Wanting Sirius B to go supernova is a very silly wish indeed. At a distance of only 8.7 light years, the consequences for life on Earth would be catastrophic. Anyway, it's a moot point, because Sirius B is nowhere near massive enough to explode.


Quite the contrary, it would not necessarily be catastrophic to Earth. Secondly, what exactly is nowhere near? A type 1a supernova, which is what Sirius B would be if it did go super, accretes matter from its parent star. The theory is that once it reaches that Chandreskar crit. mass or however the hell you spell it, then it blows up. Sirius B is roughly the diameter of Earth, with one solar mass. The crit. mass limit is 1.3 Solar masses. So yes, if this number is absolute and applicable to every and ALL white dwarfs, then it has a ways to go. The only qualms I have with that is that we certainly don't know even close to everything about celestial body dynamics (if you think we do you're making a poor judgment) so with this in mind, if that crit. mass point can fluctuate, then we have a white dwarf that may or may not be startling close to that. Now, people have been saying that even at its close pass to Sirius A, its still too far to accrete matter. My beef with this notion is that white dwarfs are composed of carbon-oxygen, yet when we look at the spectral analysis of Sirius B, nothing but hydrogen shows up, which happens to be what the shell of Sirius A is composed of.

Anyway, who wanted Sirius B to blow up?
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