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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by MamaJ
You say that in reality you can make a choice and said choice ripples across the globe and effects someone else.
But surely then the choice is not really yours because who made the first ripple? Can your so called choice be the first ripple? Or is 'choice' influenced by the almightly rippler (the one ocean)?
edit on 7-2-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Raelsatu
A philosophical question; one that may have been asked already. Let's say that consciousness is a state of some primordial 'entity', of which for [no/all] time lacked a medium to translate experience. So by sheer will this reality was born. Time by measure, dimensionality, came to be.
Perhaps the billions of ego-selves all diverged from a singularity looking for a path to Godship. A path that may require countless [infinite?] humans [& aliens] experiencing until their return. After death returning to the singularity or being reincarnated to experience once again.
There are many more theories, but my question would be. If this is the case and our subjective lives are part of a grand collective; what do you think it would be like to return to the singularity? Do ALL the life experiences merge to become ultimate knowledge? Good and bad? Those that have hated, those that have loved. Those that lived by peace, those that lived to kill. Those with no empathy & driven purely by the ego. And those which cared enough for their fellow human beings to improve this world. Imagine billions of "souls" combining? I suppose it was our default state of existence, as one; yet it must be even so unimaginably different due to the divergence. Is it even fathomable?
How does the multiverse/quantum consciousness play in?
Originally posted by MystikMushroom
Everything is everything. There is a state, a place where everything yet nothing exists at the same time. This is where it all began, came from and returns to.
If you had the ability to be anything, experience anything, do anything -- what would you do? Everything. Everything must be experienced. Every possible permuatation to infinity. This is the pandora's box that was opened by what I call "the is-ness".
I've lived thousands of lifetimes in mere seconds when I was being shown this. We are, in essense pieces of the same infinite "is-ness". I was shown that the nature of reality is not only the symbol for infinity, but also a mobius at the same time. It never began, it will never end.
This is dangerous information to be made aware of as a normal human being. Realizing that you yourself are just as much "God" as the keyboard and computer you are using is quite ... frustrating at times. This kind of knowledge is hidden very deep from 99.99% of the human population.
Some people can't handle it -- they snap and commit crimes (feeling that they are God and can do anything). One has to assimilate the knowledge slowly over time.
One of the greatest feelings in the world is when you finally "know" (that deep, deep sense of knowing) that you chose to be here. YOU chose to take this reality you're in for a spin.
Some people might ask, "well what about people who suffer so much?". Their experiences must be had. Most of these people are never made aware of the true nature of reality. If they were, they'd probably off themselves.
For me to have had a series of life-events one after another like breadcrumbs, leads me to belive I've been on a very long search for the truth behind reality. It's not an easy path, nor is it for the faint of heart. It takes courage to see yourself so small, yet so important and powerful at the same time.
The fact of the matter is -- for every question you find an answer to, five more spring into existance. It was designed this way to keep "the is-ness" busy for eternity. The rabbit hole goes on forever!
Originally posted by Raelsatu
reply to post by MystikMushroom
The purpose being infinite experiences; is that the path of God? Infinity seems proper because without it God would have a limit; the limit is impossible because what state is there to return to that lacks experience? Would returning to the singularity retain all the experiences, or are the memories only supposed to be stored organically/technologically? Or is the soul a container for experience and awareness alike? This brings up the topic of reincarnation among other things...
Also, I think there's more to consciousness than simply being in one state or the other, i.e singular and plural. For example even if one is to return to the state of oneness, the ego-self may dissolve but you'll be confronted with the presence of thousands, millions, billions of lives past. Perhaps far more, even infinite, taking into account that there are infinite [quantum] versions of every split consciousness. It's really, incredibly paradoxical & blows my mind even thinking of the possibilities. Last night I was contemplating deeply, and I couldn't believe what I was thinking up... it was amazing and frightening at the same time.
Thank you for the post, and nice username.
Peace
Originally posted by Raelsatu
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
Thanks for the input. Interesting reply, but why do you always use rolleyes emotes? Your post are quasi-satirical & it's confusing..