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Mo. teen describes killing as amazing, enjoyable

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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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I can not even express what this just did to me mentally. Is this how we are raising our children? I just want to hear what everyone thinks about this insanity. Maybe this is how our society is going to break down and the end will come.. from these kind of children..




posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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She was a troubled kid, dealing with depression and the all to known problem of not having anyone to talk to.
I believe she just finally popped, something inside her went terribly wrong


She had such an inhability to deal with emotions that after the murder she wrote a normal entry, like it was nothing and ended with "(...) gotta go to chuch..lol"

This really is how most children are being raised.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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I just read the article and the only thing i can think is .. monster. She killed a little girl and then went off to church. Whether she had a bad childhood or not, that does not excuse her strangling, stabbing and slitting the throat of a child. Or an adult for that matter. The only problem now is, her lawyers will try to get her off with a much lighter sentence than she deserves. All because she had a "bad childhood"



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Let's not just jump on th anti-parent wagon here.

There are crazy people that exist. Sometimes it's not the parent's fault, but the fault of bad wiring in a kid's head. I've met some literally crazy teenagers and usually the parents are quite nice and down to earth, sure they may not pay quite enough attention to their kids, but that's hard today.

How does somebody raise a good kid when both parents have to work 50 hours a week to put food on the table?

Raising kids is a tough gig man, I know I have 4. And thank Jebus that I have the resources to not work anymore; so I can stay at home and spend as much time as possible with them.

Not everybody is so lucky.

Back on topic, this is really sad and clearly this child has some deep rooted psychological problems that require some severe attention, but not life in prison. This person can be reformed.

~Tenth



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:44 PM
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This is what video games do to kids. They forget about the precious value of life...and think that humans are just like video games. You kill them, and they respawn somewhere else so you can kill them again.

Welcome to GTA.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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You really believe that?"
I can tell you it is NOT video games at all. I am reading reports that the girl was on ...forgot the word ....medication for mental conditions. Just like so many of these other shocking killers we get to see on TV, like the Columbine pair, a couple here in Holland and also (if memory serves) the Jared guy who shot Gifford/Clifford. As an avid video gamer since a boy (I'm now 40) I have yet to hurt a fly.

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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Starchild23
This is what video games do to kids. They forget about the precious value of life...and think that humans are just like video games. You kill them, and they respawn somewhere else so you can kill them again.

Welcome to GTA.


Video games? You have to be joking!

Empathy is hard to find in adults thus it is no surprise that the kids have none either.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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psychopathic societies produce [and reward ]psychopathic behavior
like is this in essence any different from Baroness Prick's:
"we came, we saw, he died, MUA-HAHA-HA!!"?



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Natame
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I can not even express what this just did to me mentally. Is this how we are raising our children? I just want to hear what everyone thinks about this insanity. Maybe this is how our society is going to break down and the end will come.. from these kind of children..


Sure condemn this girl as psychotic. She must be broken. Either that or she had bad upbringing.

How else could she learn in such a short while on earth that killing is pleasurable?

Where could she have gotten such a notion?

What while living in the greatest pillar of peace the world has ever known and all, you would think she would know more about love. Surely she grew up surrounded by images of kindly acts and benevolent good will to each other. The news has been reporting on all these loving acts for so long now she must have known a better way.

Burn the Witch!

Then we can all be witches.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:00 PM
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i don't actually believe she "enjoyed" the killing. to me it seems like she wrote it trying to persuade herself that it was okay to kill the 9 year old. if she actually enjoyed the killing and thought it wasn't wrong to do, then she wouldn't be nervous or shaky or not knowing how to feel. she knew it was wrong and was trying to trick herself into believing it was okay by writing like that.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:02 PM
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the enjoying of killing I would assume could be related to our primal instincts in which I guess killing another animal would reward the body with pleasure chems, on top of the adrenalin to create a habit of killing ability for future meal success. it's hard to supress our natural tendancies, but possible.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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The problem with cases like this, is trying to figure out how to respond.

I would consider probably the main priority, to be figuring out whether or not there is a chance of re-offense, or if she can be rehabilitated. The next question is how to punish her in a sufficient manner that it reinforces to her that murder cannot be permitted to occur in society, without also going to extremes that result in further psychological damage, that make re-offense more likely.

I know most of you are probably thinking that she should simply be thrown into solitary confinement and forgotten about for the rest of her life, but the reality is that solitary generally only makes mentally ill individuals worse; you end up with the potential release of an individual whose imprisonment has actually made them more likely to re-offend, rather than less. By comparison, capital punishment would honestly be both a more humane and socially beneficial response.

The central issue here, I think is that we live in a scenario where there is minimal real value placed on human life, for the most part, and individuals are also constantly surrounded by stimuli which glorify violence, especially as children, due to violent computer games and such. Games like Gears of War actually try and educate players to believe that violence is an inherent and irreconcilable element of human nature.

Given such a psychological and moral upbringing, we really shouldn't be surprised when acts like this are the result; although at the same time, that also does not absolve the individual of responsibility.
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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 11:59 PM
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A young girl killed another young girl. This is barbaric and a very sad reflection of our society. The fact that she tried to change her diary entry indicates she knew right from wrong.

Who to blame? Let's blame the parents, let's blame the education system, let's blame the health system - it does not matter who you blame - the little 9 year old victim is not getting her life back.

The killer needs to be locked up for the safety of the community. I wish people would think hard and long about the responsibilities of bringing a Child into the world. When a Child commits murder - such as this instance - the family will be the first to shoulder the burden of blame.

We could all discuss and swap theories on why but the deed is done and it is a hard cold fact that Children killing Children is probably a reflection of too much visible violence everywhere in society. Children are seeing violent television shows, playing violent games, seeing violence in the playground, violence in the street and after awhile they become inured. Like a sponge that is overflowing and cannot absorb any more.

She needs love and kindness but I fear it is a case of a little too late.

Much Peace...for all the victims in this situation...



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 09:08 AM
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The story really shocked me. It’s alarming to know how that this young lady actually felt good about killing a helpless little girl. Does her parents have to be blamed by the way she behaved? Maybe. Any parent wouldn’t want their child to end up like she did but we have to be honest here. It’s not a reason for us to not always be there for our kids because we have to earn a living. There are definitely ways that we can spend time to talk with them even as simple as dinnertime or during bedtime. Yes, the environment where our kids grow also influences a child’s way of thinking and the way they behave. But it doesn’t set aside the fact that it should be the parents who would make sure their kids are doing well and are okay.
This girl was clearly going through some psychological problems like depression and if the parents had known it earlier, it wouldn’t have escalated into this type of situation. I guess this story should serve as a lesson to us parents. We shouldn’t take any sign of behavior changes in our teens lightly. For all we know, they might just have a deeper problem. See some of the facts here. It’s best to provide our teens the help that they need as soon as we see negative changes in them.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 09:11 AM
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Too horrible for words.

She likely fits into this category:

www.nytimes.com...


Currently, there is no standard test for psychopathy in children, but a growing number of psychologists believe that psychopathy, like autism, is a distinct neurological condition — one that can be identified in children as young as 5. Crucial to this diagnosis are callous-unemotional traits, which most researchers now believe distinguish “fledgling psychopaths” from children with ordinary conduct disorder, who are also impulsive and hard to control and exhibit hostile or violent behavior. According to some studies, roughly one-third of children with severe behavioral problems — like the aggressive disobedience that Michael displays — also test above normal on callous-unemotional traits. (Narcissism and impulsivity, which are part of the adult diagnostic criteria, are difficult to apply to children, who are narcissistic and impulsive by nature.)

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posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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Keep cranking out those violent video games America. Keep telling your youth it's okay to fantasize about murder and war.

We're raising whole generations of socio- and psychopaths.

This does not surprise me in the least.



posted on Jun, 12 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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She was shaky from all the adrenaline in her system.



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