Bill Gates Backs Climate Scientists Lobbying For Large-Scale Geoengineering

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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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This warming rebound would be larger and more sustained should climate sensitivity prove to be higher than expected.

Yup. More modelling required. Exactly what I said. Exactly what Gates is calling for.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by choos
HAHA brilliant lets play with something we don't fully understand nor fully understand the potential consequences of such actions.. what is the worst that could possibly go wrong.

the introduction of cane toads to take care of pests naturally was a brilliant idea too.


No one is recommending "playing with" anything. They are recommending that the possibility be studied so the ramifications can be understood. So something like the cane toad problem would not occur.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by burntheships
 


This warming rebound would be larger and more sustained should climate sensitivity prove to be higher than expected.

Yup. More modelling required. Exactly what I said.
www.abovetopsecret.com...


So we give them more money for geoengineering research why?

It's NOT a proven science - as I've show thousands of scientists say man made global warming is a hoax.

This is a POLITICAL agenda, not a scientific one. I don't want to give the government one more penny... actually I want to give them a lot LESS pennies! We're BROKE here in the US, and the EU is not doing so hot either is it???

Also I especially don't want to support government that is called for and run by globalists!!!!



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by Phage

Where is the modelling? All over. Here's a start:
scholar.google.com...


Thats all pretty old stuff there, since its all done supposedly
on the computer screen, you would think there would be ongoing
recent "modeling" .



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 07:59 PM
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Just did a search, and it appears the Internet has more important things to concern itself with... like someone who is painting pictures of ladybugs.


I guess you'll just have to take my word for this, or not as you see fit. Just because it doesn't pop up in google does not mean it did not happen.

Oh, and two inches of ladybugs on a patio is not a normal influx...

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:01 PM
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Phage, come on...

This stage of the game is way past the "studies" you keep mentioning.

They have already manufactured these blimps to spray this stuff into the air,
its in Bill Gates Whitepapers.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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It sounds like Bill Gates is providing the money. Isn't that what this thread is about?
But the claim is that he is encouraging experiments. I don't see where that is shown.

These proposals have generated a lively and fruitful debate within the scientific community and the public at large about the cost and practicality of various geoengineering technologies, as well as possible unintended side effects of their use. Intellectual Ventures hopes to play a constructive role in this debate as a source of innovative technical ideas for solving some of these issues. We have funded research in this area—and are encouraging others to do so as well—because it would be irresponsible for the technical community to postpone such work until a climate emergency was actually underway. Intellectual Ventures does not advocate construction or deployment of geoengineering systems now, and we hope they will
never be needed.

intellectualventureslab.com...



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:04 PM
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We have kudzu here as well. Livestock will happily eat it; it's just that farmers when it was introduced did not know how to bale it for feed. It has to be cut low and baled high, else it will destroy the machinery.

Ironic you would bring this up... kudzu could well be one of the best CO2 absorbers known, since the stuff grows so fast and is practically immortal. That's if it's really that critical to remove CO2... that's my really big 'if'.

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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so 60 yrs (not sure how long) of cloud seeding is not playing?



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:06 PM
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you would think there would be ongoing recent "modeling" .

There is. In fact you provided an example.
www.pnas.org...
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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:07 PM
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Cloud seeding has nothing to do with geoengineering or climate.
It is small scale operations designed to enhance precipitation in limited areas.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:07 PM
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Gates is paying millions of dollars to David Keith, who is in turn running these
con men corporations.

Its on the front page of this thread, I posted snippets...

And funny, I dont see any published "studies" by gates.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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but it is mans attempt to affect the climate.

errr.. ok maybe not so much climate but mans attempt to control nature
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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:13 PM
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That's because he's funding others to do the research.
I don't think he's a climatologist.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:13 PM
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ok maybe not so much climate but mans attempt to control nature

So is agriculture.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:21 PM
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and so spraying SO2 in the atmosphere will be all good?



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:22 PM
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Agriculture is an attempt to embrace and use nature.

What we are talking about is an attempt to abuse and control nature.

Flowing water can be diverted, routed, absorbed to improve crop production and produce electricity... but it cannot be stopped. Attempts to do so have resulted in some pretty severe damage.

Same difference.

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by pianopraze
 

It sounds like Bill Gates is providing the money. Isn't that what this thread is about?
But the claim is that he is encouraging experiments. I don't see where that is shown.

These proposals have generated a lively and fruitful debate within the scientific community and the public at large about the cost and practicality of various geoengineering technologies, as well as possible unintended side effects of their use. Intellectual Ventures hopes to play a constructive role in this debate as a source of innovative technical ideas for solving some of these issues. We have funded research in this area—and are encouraging others to do so as well—because it would be irresponsible for the technical community to postpone such work until a climate emergency was actually underway. Intellectual Ventures does not advocate construction or deployment of geoengineering systems now, and we hope they will
never be needed.

intellectualventureslab.com...


First I wasn't the OP so ask her... but while we are on Bill Gates, geoengineering and globalists:

Bill Gates, a Bilderberger globalist elite, is furthering the globalist geoengineering agenda we have been talking about.

The CFT/Trilateral/Bilderberg connection is well established here on ATS and there are many tie-ins with Bill and his foundations like the link above which are easy to google... or better yet use startpage.

Geoengineering might accomplish another of Bill Gates favorite pet projects... eugenics/depopulation by bringing down viruses which have been in the atmosphere for thousands to millions of years spreading disease and death around the world... another horrible side effect of geoengineering scientists are warning about.

And it is silly for him to be doing this anyways as even Nature magazine says the introduction of aresols might not even work on balance!



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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That's because he's funding others to do the research.
I don't think he's a climatologist.


Your right, Gates is not a climatologist, hes shameless Globalist.

Ok, so where are the recent studys by Keith, you know the one
whos is getting paid the big bucks! ?



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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ok maybe not so much climate but mans attempt to control nature

So is agriculture.


Agriculture is not damaging the earth... well unless you count GMO's pesticides by Monsanto and others which brings about sterilization birth defects:

After feeding hamsters for two years over three generations, those on the GM diet, and especially the group on the maximum GM soy diet, showed devastating results. By the third generation, most GM soy-fed hamsters lost the ability to have babies. They also suffered slower growth, and a high mortality rate among the pups.


And if this isn’t shocking enough, some in the third generation even had hair growing inside their mouths a phenomenon rarely seen, but apparently more prevalent among hamsters eating GM soy.

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Strange how all these agendas like geoengineering, depopulation, etc... seem to come together when you stat following these globalists like Bill Gates... you might even thing they talk to each other and plan these things together.... or should i say conspire together?

One might think that depopulation is even one of the less stated reasons they are pushing for geoengineering... is a conspiracy theory of course as I can't prove that... but it makes sense to me.





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