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the Spirit of God hovered above the waters.
In order for two completely different sets of laws to exist, one with supernatural capabilities and the other completely natural (by our standards), they have to be separated somehow or the laws will cause nature and existence itself to clash and self-destruct. So, there has to be some area in which this other set of laws was applicable, and from which someone or something could reach out and create a whole new world.
As I have said, the universe is, according to our scientists...infinite. That means it has no end. Where, then, is this other area from which God, or whomever our creator was/is, crafted this beautiful realm? Where is this place where the laws are so completely different from our own?
Originally posted by Starchild23
Opinions?
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1 Corinthians 2:14
reply to post by BeforeTheHangmansNoose
all living, experiencing entities have the ability to be God. The idea of "god" is just knowledge, nothing more. If we had the knowledge of how to propel our body through the air, how to teleport, how to create whatever you wanted just by thinking about it. If we had this knowledge, we would be god.
(Gen 3:1) Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
(Gen 3:2) And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
(Gen 3:3) But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
(Gen 3:4) And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
(Gen 3:5) For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
(Gen 3:22) And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
(Gen 3:23) Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
(Gen 3:24) So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Originally posted by occrest
reply to post by BeforeTheHangmansNoose
all living, experiencing entities have the ability to be God. The idea of "god" is just knowledge, nothing more. If we had the knowledge of how to propel our body through the air, how to teleport, how to create whatever you wanted just by thinking about it. If we had this knowledge, we would be god.
This is the oldest lie in the book.
(Gen 3:1) Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
(Gen 3:2) And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
(Gen 3:3) But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
(Gen 3:4) And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
(Gen 3:5) For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
You know the story, Adam and Eve ate, got kicked out of Eden, being forever separated from the Tree of Life.
(Gen 3:22) And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
(Gen 3:23) Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
(Gen 3:24) So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Mankind has since been trying to access the Tree of Life ever since, as is evidenced by the presence of the many variations of the kabbalah floating around.
edit on 6-2-2012 by occrest because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ImaFungi
Originally posted by occrest
reply to post by BeforeTheHangmansNoose
all living, experiencing entities have the ability to be God. The idea of "god" is just knowledge, nothing more. If we had the knowledge of how to propel our body through the air, how to teleport, how to create whatever you wanted just by thinking about it. If we had this knowledge, we would be god.
This is the oldest lie in the book.
(Gen 3:1) Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
(Gen 3:2) And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
(Gen 3:3) But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
(Gen 3:4) And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
(Gen 3:5) For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
You know the story, Adam and Eve ate, got kicked out of Eden, being forever separated from the Tree of Life.
(Gen 3:22) And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
(Gen 3:23) Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
(Gen 3:24) So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Mankind has since been trying to access the Tree of Life ever since, as is evidenced by the presence of the many variations of the kabbalah floating around.
edit on 6-2-2012 by occrest because: (no reason given)
earth was an ant farm of the gods....for the creatures of the earth to play their lives......through the passing of time man was tempted towards an ever greater grasping for understanding of this realm in which he exists and what knowledge one must poses to have created it... so the history of man is a striving to emulate and become gods, that which holds knowledge and performs creation... science is the reading of the creators story,., the tree of life is surely immortality,,. which once a being understands how precious its life is, its consciousness is, it naturally would like to stay itself for as long as possible,. this is seen in the will to live as long as possible,..,. this is also seen in the natural replication of life through procreation., you live through your children etc.. if man is too hasty with this desiree of immortality he might shed all things good and beautiful, to make himself machine and eternal,.,. what then will he desiree, what then will make him happy,.,., biological living entities are already an extremely advanced form of machine,,. it takes much work to make life as real as it is,.,. bones and blood and organs,. how to create feelings and emotions,,. all very incredible stuff,,. i can imagine machines craving to be human,., funny how humans crave to be machines..
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
There is only One Law of the True Creator:
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Ribbit
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
what do you mean simple.,. like our spirits desiree this playground of earth because it may be rare in space time, energy combustion and radiation, to be a physical avatar in a nature, with a role, in a life?
the only reason these physical avatars crave to progress is because they do not believe they will have another chance to experience the universe?
but how did lions and humans come about? do you think they evolved.,, like nature in some aspects respects and encourages and rewards effort,, in areas of intelligence etc.
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
There is only One Law of the True Creator:
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Ribbit
Two actually...
Meow?
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
There is only One Law of the True Creator:
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Ribbit
Two actually...
Meow?
That's a Physical Law, doesn't count.
eYe was only referring 2 Philosophical Law.
Ribbit
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
what do you mean simple.,. like our spirits desiree this playground of earth because it may be rare in space time, energy combustion and radiation, to be a physical avatar in a nature, with a role, in a life?
the only reason these physical avatars crave to progress is because they do not believe they will have another chance to experience the universe?
but how did lions and humans come about? do you think they evolved.,, like nature in some aspects respects and encourages and rewards effort,, in areas of intelligence etc.
The only reason they crave progress was said by K2J:
K2J: Humans, for the most part, don't have a clue. Don't want or need one.
K2J: They're happy. They think they have a good bead on things.
J2K: Why the big secret? People are smart. They can handle it.
K2J: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals. You know it.
All life on this planet was created and kNot a single lifeform came from this planet. We are all alien 2 this planet but don't take that the wrong way. Aliens aren't behind this, although it could be said they are, since a few of We are behind this, in a 2nd String Quarterback kinda way, and We aren't from here. Plus, our kind has been on more Earth planets than U would care 2 know.
Ribbit
Originally posted by ImaFungi
Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
what do you mean simple.,. like our spirits desiree this playground of earth because it may be rare in space time, energy combustion and radiation, to be a physical avatar in a nature, with a role, in a life?
the only reason these physical avatars crave to progress is because they do not believe they will have another chance to experience the universe?
but how did lions and humans come about? do you think they evolved.,, like nature in some aspects respects and encourages and rewards effort,, in areas of intelligence etc.
The only reason they crave progress was said by K2J:
K2J: Humans, for the most part, don't have a clue. Don't want or need one.
K2J: They're happy. They think they have a good bead on things.
J2K: Why the big secret? People are smart. They can handle it.
K2J: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals. You know it.
All life on this planet was created and kNot a single lifeform came from this planet. We are all alien 2 this planet but don't take that the wrong way. Aliens aren't behind this, although it could be said they are, since a few of We are behind this, in a 2nd String Quarterback kinda way, and We aren't from here. Plus, our kind has been on more Earth planets than U would care 2 know.
Ribbit
so you think your spirit has nothing to do with your ancestral lineage beyond and up to your parents? "you" think "you" could have been born to other parents? or you dont think there is a real difference between "you" and me, and the rest of we? do you think there is no difference between the earliest man,, and the man of today; building nukes, particle accelerators, spaceships, mansions, and no difference between that earliest man, and the potential man of the future,,.,. and no real difference bettwen any of those men,, and a butt ugly toad?
if you believe "you" are an individual eternal spirit... how do you view your personality or outlook? does that carry over to other realms of form and time? why were our individual eternal spirits necessary to be created, what have we done to deserve existence,, is this where you would say god loves you thats why he created you? would you think the personality is nothing, the knowledge is nothing and has nothing to do with the character of the eternal spirit?