Originally posted by Tecumte
Originally posted by andreoutlaw
reply to post by Tecumte
You obviously added some ridiculous things I never said, but I won't go so low as to claim that this kind of immature behavior somehow represents the
total inability of Ron Paul's supporters to address any real issue outside of rhetorical arguments and fantastical Hollywood nonsense, because I
don't think that would be constructive or appropriate within a discussion this serious.
We'll didn't mean to add some things you never said (or implied?), was just tryng to paraphrase what I thought I understood you were trying to say.
I could go back and copy and paste your exact slams of Dr. Paul but don't care to take the time for such silliness. Anyway, I have said many times I
don't look to gov. to solve my problems personally, and too I think a huge part of it could be dismantled and nobody would even miss it, and likely
we'd all be much freer and happier.
But do president's have ANY power to affect things, well maybe, maybe not, but the simple point many have made here is that IF someone is going to
take the time to vote for president, and IF they feel maybe there is some chance of whomever is selected having ANY sort of positive affect then Dr.
Ron Paul is the best of anyone running IMO. People can agree or disagree if they want, if I do feel I'm going to take the time to vote this year it
will be Ron Paul or nobody. I do think it's likely some politicians are less owned than others and may be better choices than others, one does have
to wonder why the Corporate Criminal Cabal wastes it time murdering people like Paul Wellstone and his family or killing people like J.F.K. if it
really has no affect at all (again paraphrasing what it seems you are saying/implying.
edit on 8-2-2012 by Tecumte because: spelling
You thought my post was stating that my opposition to the alleged "Ron Paul Loverution" was based on thinking that he was a racist with Alzheimer's
Disease? That was really the impression that the post gave you? That is unfortunate, to say the least, but as there is clearly no interest in
discussion of anything resembling an actual issue among Ron Paul's supporters, I can't say that I found the response particularly surprising.
If you do not look to government to solve you problems, than why are you supporting Ron Paul, while asserting that he is going to solve a bunch of
problems for you? Does that not seem the least bit contradictory? This is the kind of thing we find in this movement. Circular statements from
which no clear line of logic can be drawn.
I do not mean to talk down to you, or anyone else on this thread. You are doing what people have always done, which is found leaders and followed
them unthinkingly. This is perfectly natural, and I would not fault you for it. Back in the old times, among the tribe, this made sense. A member
of your tribe who stood up as the leader almost always had your best intentions in mind. Sadly, things are much more complicated than that at this
present juncture, and as such it falls on us to deny this natural instinct to follow others blindly and actually develop a capacity for logical
analysis of information in our own right.
And yes, powerful people kill each other sometime. That reality cannot be twisted into "within the realm of politics, people have a real chance to
get their due". That is a massive, disconnected leap in logic. Would you argue that Brutus killed Caesar in order to "restore the Republic"
because he had a passion in his heart to help the common man? Or was this just more of the normal machinations of power relations within the
There are no simple answers here when someone has been as heavily indoctrinated as the average American. The only way out is to work through the
whole thing, completely, and find the truth of it. As far as the Ron Paul nonsense, a good place to start is here:
1.) Look at the amount of effort that Ron Paul puts in to attempting to establish the gold standard
2.) Find out that the Rothschild family arbitrarily determines the value of gold
3.) Have an epiphany
That is the easiest place. I understand it is difficult for people who don't know much about economics to understand exactly what his insane "pure
free market capitalism" plan would actually do in the real world, where all capital is already solidified in the hands of multi-national
corporations, but if you get through this delusion about the gold standard, that might be a good next step.
What I see is people being moved by emotional rhetoric to do with "freedom and liberty" in the exact same way that Obama supporters were. This just
is not good enough. In order to draw accurate conclusions about reality, we are going to have to disregard emotion, and deal with facts.
Time to grow up.