Ayatollah: Kill all Jews, annihilate Israel

reply to post by casenately

I have to crash, work thing.

Thanks all for the lively debate.

reply to post by casenately


In an earlier post, many pages before this, I said that the source alone was good enough to label this thread a hoax.

They cannot prove anything!

Either these folks are paid shills or we are dealing with a group of FoxNews viewers that have a smaller ability to discern fact than my 6 year old son!

I'm pretty much done here too.

This thread has failed to supply proof of many of the claims therein , including the OP.

Time to mosey on down the road....and play some video games before bed.

Wooohoooo.

Originally posted by casenately
no one wants to address the false information offered, yet again. Hoax yet?

at this point, it should go to skunk works. Proven beyond a shadow of doubt on all issues. Hoax IMO

edit on 6-2-2012 by casenately because: more

In other words your saying that since you and others cant refute the facts provided, that the thread should be closed and moved?

Ironic since Iran has started to arrest reporters for reporting on the topic and a few others.

Are you stating the Ayatollah (1979) didn't put forth a doctrine to wipe out Israel and kill Jewish people?
Are you stating that the article on the Farsnews site discussing that doctrine is not real?
Are you saying that Ahmadabad never called for the destruction of Israel?
Are you saying the Ayatollah (present) has never called for the destruction of Israel?

Are you stating, that given all the evidence, that Iran is not working on a nuclear weapons program?

reply to post by Xcathdra


They are not facts! What don't you understand?

Where are the nukes in Iran? Where did they build them? When will the use them on Israel?

It's propaganda and you are eating it up!

reply to post by Xcathdra


no no not so fast. where does that say the scientist mentioned was even qualified to be used as an expert?

You did not refute anything. Just more pick your own response garbage. I have provided many sources and detailed the content. You do the same. Mr. I love to quote things that are favorable to my hoax.

Originally posted by PaxVeritas

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by PaxVeritas

 

Not Strawman.......

Fact.


You clearly want to believe that Iran isn't capable of building a bomb,or doesn't want a bomb. Given the right amount of time,they will. Just as India,North Korea,Pakistan and Israel,has.

You are gullible enough NOT to believe it,or want to believe it.

That is your opinion,and unfortunately,We will revisit your iron clad denial,if and when Iran does.

If you want to discuss Iran, discuss Iran.

Using North Korea as an example of what Iran "might do" is like talking about the wonders of Chicken by describing how Pork tastes.

The Feb. 24 cable, which is among those obtained by WikiLeaks and made available to a number of news organizations, makes it clear that American intelligence agencies believe that the complete shipment indeed took place, and that Iran is taking pains to master the technology in an attempt to build a new generation of missiles. The missile intelligence also suggests far deeper military — and perhaps nuclear — cooperation between North Korea and Iran than was previously known. At the request of the Obama administration, The New York Times has agreed not to publish the text of the cable.

Iran Fortifies Its Arsenal With the Aid of North Korea



Looks like meat is meat...........

Looks like North Korea is a great teacher also.........

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by PaxVeritas

 

There you go.. Its a real page turner..



G. Possible Military Dimensions - Its detailed so im not going to flood the text here.

Anything can be deemed to have "possible military dimensions". What a farce.

You should be outright banned from these forums for presenting such inflammatory and blatantly false misinformation.

Really, are you sure you don't work for Israel? You sure as hell deserve a medal, for the effort you put in to making Iran look threatening.

Why don't you try so hard at criminalizing Israel?

Has not Israel refused to let inspectors into their nuclear facilities? Does not Israel have nuclear weapons?

Did not Israel refuse to sign the non-proliferation treaty? And on what grounds? That such knowledge might somehow undermine the security of their country? How is that a valid excuse?

And yet who is the loudest whiner and tries the hardest to get Iran invaded? Israel, a nation that isn't even part of the treaty, complaining about another country that has made it very clear they are only interested in nuclear energy, not weapons.

You cannot fabricate evidence to prove Iran wants nuclear weapons. Even if they did, it would be far cheaper to simply purchase them from China or Russia. It makes absolutely no sense. You make absolutely no sense.

This thread is utter trash.

reply to post by casenately


Ahhh so when presented with the IAEA report, your argument changed from being false to the scientist is not qualified?

LOL


reply to post by sheepslayer247

Now your argument is they are not facts? It looks factual to me, especially since in several sections of the report it gives the Iranian response / explanation / excuse or lack of response. Iran has stated they will sit down with the IAEA and resolve those issues, yet have failed to do so.

Nothing like the fluid denial defense.. Keep changing the conversation and hope no one notices.

In other words your saying that since you and others cant refute the facts provided, that the thread should be closed and moved?

Ironic since Iran has started to arrest reporters for reporting on the topic and a few others.
what does that have to do with topic, villifying much? source?

Are you stating the Ayatollah (1979) didn't put forth a doctrine to wipe out Israel and kill Jewish people?

YES. THEY WOULD DO IT IN THEIR COUNTRY NOW. THEY HAVE JEWS RIGHT THERE!

Are you stating that the article on the Farsnews site discussing that doctrine is not real?

NO IT EXISTS AND IS SO REAL, BUT NOT VALID

Are you saying that Ahmadabad never called for the destruction of Israel?

YES. (marg bar Esraiil),what they are shouting means "down with". literally the first word means "death" but any first year linguist will tell you that is NOT what it means. Like if you say break a leg, it does not mean BREAK A LEG.

Are you saying the Ayatollah (present) has never called for the destruction of Israel?

YES. (marg bar Esraiil),what they are shouting means "down with". literally the first word means "death" but any first year linguist will tell you that is NOT what it means. Like if you say break a leg, it does not mean BREAK A LEG.

Are you stating, that given all the evidence, that Iran is not working on a nuclear weapons program?

YES,what evidence, 20% inrichment is not evidence of weapons grade intentions.

reply to post by Xcathdra


DID YOU READ THE POSTS. THATS WHAT THEY SAID!

reply to post by Xcathdra

It looks factual to me

To you.......

Iran has stated they will sit down with the IAEA and resolve those issues, yet have failed to do so.

They allowed inspectors back in this last couple of weeks did they not? Better than talk if you ask me.

What is important is that Iran could say "no comment" to everything, but it is up to the IAEA to provide evidence contrary to Iran's statements.

Where is the evidence to prove what you and many others claim?

THIS IS WHRE IT IS MENTIOINED

reply to post by casenately

reply to post by sheepslayer247


Yes but that brings the issue. If this has been proven bunk, should it stay as valid news?

If it were about UFOs would it be allowed to stay as a valid source of science or fact?

It is bunk on all points time and time again. what next. wait 40 pages more for the same false facts to be presented over and over again? that is reducing the quality of content.

Originally posted by casenately

YES,what evidence, 20% inrichment is not evidence of weapons grade intentions.

20% is weapons usable just less powerful....it's considered highly enriched

it's certainly more than the 5% (or even 10%) they'd need for their "medical" purposes...
Let's also take a look at who their allies are, shall we?

use your brain if at all possible.

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Ayatollah: Kill all Jews, annihilate Israel

www.wnd.com

The Iranian government, through a website proxy, has laid out the legal and religious justification for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its people.

The doctrine includes wiping out Israeli assets and Jewish people worldwide.

Calling Israel a danger to Islam, the conservative website Alef, with ties to Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said the opportunity must not be lost to remove “this corrupting material. It is a ‘jurisprudential justification” to kill all the Jews and annihilate Israel, and in that, the Islamic government of Iran must take the hel

(visit the link for the full news article)

I read the ATSer Islamic apologists falling all over each other to excuse Ahmadinejad's earlier pronouncement as having been inaccurately translated with bemused sadness.

Obviously . . . such folks were either ill-informed to terminally . . . lacking . . . (trying hard to be polite here when politeness is grossly inaccurate) . . .

or

they were deliberately . . . deceptive . . . to put it again inaccurately politely.

Anyone who's read the 164 violent Jihad verses in the Koran with the LEAST BIT of reading skills, logic and sanity

Available here:

www.yoel.info...

would realize that

regardless of the Mahdi worshiper Ahmadinejad and what he really said in the earlier quote--

the FOUNDING DOCUMENTS CONTAIN MORE THAN sufficient exhortation to wipe all Jews and Israel off the map for folks to avoid any fantasies otherwise.

However, given the surreal perspective of some folks on ATS who seem to be DETERMINED to

DENY REALITY

rather than

DENY IGNORANCE . . .

this thread, too will likely have more than its share of rationalizers and hollow, absurd rationalizations for the genocidal values inherent in Islam.

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reply to post by BO XIAN


so that's like saying that Talmudic Jews are just as crazy, have nukes now, and have threatened everybody.We should invade Israel then. why is this article not titled, maniacs in the ME and demonizes both sides, or how about this, NONE AT ALL.

reply to post by BO XIAN



so the WEB SITE said that. place date time person.

where when who

basic journalism.

you see no facts in your post. just he said she said. but no he or she.the government said this, the site, no one knows.

had that been about a ufo crop circle alien probe in my mouth, you would be bunk. But noooo its about Israel and Iran so we have to respect non evidence.

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journal-neo.com.../12848

Moscow is not Alone in Rejection of Military Pressure on Iran

Moreover, as notes Chief Researcher of the Institute of World Economy and International Relations, Retired Major General Vladimir Dvorkin, “Iran had enriched uranium up to 20% before, allegedly in the interests of the research reactor. It’s another matter that now it will be able to produce more enriched uranium”.
According to the expert, such degree of uranium enrichment is not enough to make a nuclear explosive device or a nuclear warhead.

Uranium-235
This is currently the most common fuel in nuclear reactors. Natural Uranium must be enriched to contain about 3-5% 235U before it can be used in most conventional reactors. The CANDU Heavy-Water reactor can use natural Uranium. To create a weapon Uranium must be enriched above 80%. Highly enriched Uranium (more than 20% enrichment) is also used for reactors in naval vessels and for research reactors.

nuclearinfo.net...