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IAEA report on Iran is 'False Flag,' says Middle East analyst


London, Nov 12, IRNA – Middle East consultant Peter Eyre totally discredits the latest IAEA report on Iran's nuclear programme as a conspiracy by the US and Israel to create conflict and deceive the public about the New World Order.

Again we see another classic 'False Flag' maneuver by the US/Israel in trying to manipulate the UN & IAEA into creating a justification to take action against Iran,” Eyre said.

“You have to understand that Iran is a standalone country with incredible wealth in its natural resources,” he said following the release of another IAEA report that makes insinuations about the nature of Iran's civilian nuclear programme.

Coming after US accusation of a supposed Iranian terrorist plot in Washington, the British Middle East analyst suggested it was all part of the New World Order, which has its “own agenda in its geo-political master plan'.

The plan includes “to take control of the world's natural resources, to take control of the markets for those resources, to take control of the sea lanes and transit routes for those resources,” he told IRNA.

“Iran remains an obstacle to their imperialistic greed/growth. They can only implement such a plan by creating a conflict or war,” he warned.

Like many other, Eyre put the latest False Flag Operation into context in the wake of the financial crises sweeping Europe and America.

“In such bad economic times, war is good for the US, UK and EU's economy with extensive exports of arms and munitions whilst at the same time pumping up the price of oil, which also fills their pockets,” he said bluntly.

The consultant also spoke of the double standards about the use of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) by nuclear powers, including the aiding and abetting of Israel's illicit stockpile of nuclear weapons.

“The United States is in total violation in its approach to the NPT issue, in that it is producing in mass, low yield nuclear weapons up to a dial up factor of 5 kilo tonnes, that are not covered by the NPT.

“With their excessive use of depleted uranium weapons and the fact that it is believed they have already used low yield nuclear weapons in Afghanistan it is like the 'pot calling the kettle black',' he said.

“It was the US and the UK that allowed Israel to develop a huge nuclear weapons programme that started off in South Africa and resulted in Israel now having a significant nuclear arsenal,” he added.

Eyre further drew parallels with the claims about Iraq's WMD programme that were used to justify the 2003 war, but which were later proved to be false.

“The fact (is) that documents produced in the British Parliament had been what they called 'sexed up' so as to convince the politicians that there was justification for going to war.”

“It is obvious that this same tactic is now in existence against Iran,” he warned, but added it had led to the British public not believing the government anymore.

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Originally posted by PaxVeritas


2) Prove that Iran is developing a Nuclear Weapon.

Unfortunately,the same could have been said for North Korea at one time.

Alas,it was proven AFTER they had attained the bomb.

After they tested it.
After they denied Nuclear inspectors,into their hidden facility's.

And yes,you can use North Korea as a sizable case study on "how to" thwart the UN,and the World when it comes to "peaceful Nuclear ambitions".

Sorry.

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I hate to tell you but I have read the entire IAEA report a few times. They infer much, but prove nothing. If they did prove that Iran was able, or seeking, to create weapons-grade uranium then this conversation would be pointless! We would be bombing them already!

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IAEA report on Iran contains falsified information allegedly supplied by Israel


The Hindu reports that the latest report of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) on Iran appears to have falsified information about a Russian scientist who allegedly helped Tehran advance its nuclear weapons program. The IAEA report published by a Washington think tank Tuesday included a sensational claim that a former Soviet nuclear weapons scientist had helped Iran construct a detonation system that could be used for a nuclear weapon.

However, the Russian media has found out that the scientist, Vyacheslav Danilenko, had never worked in nuclear physics but their field of expertise was instead the production of nanodiamonds by explosion. Nanodiamonds are used in the manufacture of lubricants and rubber.

Contacted by the Russian daily newspaper Kommersant, the 76-year-old scientist, now retired, refused to discuss his work in Iran, saying only: “I’m not a nuclear physicist and I’m not a father of Iran’s nuclear programme.”

A former colleague, Vladimir Padalko, confirmed Mr. Danilenko’s words. “I explained to them that nanodiamonds have nothing to do with nuclear weapons,” Mr. Padalko told Kommersant.

So the truth appears to be that Mr. Danilenko is not a nuclear physicist and has never worked in the field of nuclear weapons, contrary to the claim made in the IAEA report.

Investigative journalist Gareth Porter adds:
The IAEA and David Albright, the director of the International Institute for Science and Security in Washington, never bothered to check the accuracy of a claim by an unnamed “Member State” on which the IAEA based its assertion about his nuclear weapons background.

Albright gave a “private briefing” for “intelligence professionals” last week, in which he named Danilenko as the foreign expert who had been contracted by Iran’s Physics Research Centre in the mid-1990s and identified him as a “former Soviet nuclear scientist”, according to a story by Joby Warrick of the Washington Post on Nov. 5. The Danilenko story then went worldwide.

The fact that the IAEA and Albright were made aware of Danilenko’s nanodiamond work in Iran before embracing the “former Soviet nuclear weapons specialist” story makes their failure to make any independent inquiry into his background even more revealing.

Careful examination of the “alleged studies” documents has revealed inconsistencies and other anomalies that give evidence of fraud. But the IAEA, the United States and its allies in the IAEA continue to treat the documents as though there were no question about their authenticity.

The unnamed member state that informed the agency about Danilenko’s alleged experience as a Soviet nuclear weapons scientist is almost certainly Israel, which has been the source of virtually all the purported intelligence on Iranian work on nuclear weapons over the past decade.

The Jerusalem Post’s Yaakov Katz reported Wednesday that Israeli intelligence agencies had “provided critical information used in the report”, the purpose of which was to “push through a new regime of sanctions against Tehran….”

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by PaxVeritas


2) Prove that Iran is developing a Nuclear Weapon.

Unfortunately,the same could have been said for North Korea at one time.

Alas,it was proven AFTER they had attained the bomb.

After they tested it.
After they denied Nuclear inspectors,into their hidden facility's.

And yes,you can use North Korea as a sizable case study on "how to" thwart the UN,and the World when it comes to "peaceful Nuclear ambitions".

Sorry.

Straw Man...we're talking about IRAN..

Post is invalid.

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IAEA report on Iran: more of the same, more hype.



UPDATE: The Leveretts put it better than I did: Pulling the IAEA into the "Attack Iran" debate will backfire

UPDATE 2: THis is what ELbaradei said about the "intelligence" provided by Israel to the IAEA about an alleged secret Iranian nuclear weapons program, in his book "Age of Deception" (click on thumbnail below to enlarge)



OK so the IAEA report is now finally available publicly, after it was released to the media several days ago and enough time has been given for them to hype it as much as possible pior to the release (a supposedly "confidential report", mind you!) And as usual, the report itself does not really justify the pre-release hype - but hey, that's SHOWBIZ, baby!

TRUE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE IAEA REPORT

Now before we get into the nitty-gritty of the new IAEA report and discuss what's new with what's not so new in the report, let me explain why the significance of the the IAEA report really isn't about Iran per se, but is actually about the US:

You see, the ultimate significance of this recent IAEA report is not really in what it has to say about Iran's nuclear program (not much new there, actually, despite the hype.) Rather the report, and all the spin placed on it claiming that it supposedly shows that Iran has a continuing nuclear weapons program, is actually a direct attack on the US intelligence community because they've been standing in the way of "manufacturing consent" for a war on Iran. Having failed to get the intelligence community to issue an NIE that portrays Iran as hellbent on making nukes, the warmongers are now using the IAEA to create that perception. (As Elbaradei notes in his book (click on thumbnail above), the Israelis were trying to undermine the NIE's conclusions by presenting their own "evidence" to the IAEA.)

Remember, the 2007 National Intelligence Estimate concluded that there was no active or continuing nuclear weapons program in Iran. This was the official consensus view of all 16 American intelligence organizations. The conclusion took the air out of warmongers' sails in the Bush administration, and despite vociferous complaints by the chickenhawks and NeoCons and psychos, and despite the fact that President Bush (and later, Obama) desperately sought to disassociate themselves from the conclusions of their own intelligence organizations, and despite pressure by the Israelis to have the NIE rewritten to suit them more (even though their own intelligence agreed with that conclusion), this conclusion was reportedly confirmed once again in the 2011 version of the National Intelligence Estimate. In fact, just about 7 months ago, James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, confirmed before a Senate committee hearing that American intelligence organizations still believed - with "high confidence" - that Iran had not 'restarted' a nuclear weapons program:

Chairman LEVIN: Okay. But, what is level of confidence that you have that as of this time they have not decided to restart that program? Is that a high level of confidence?

Mr. CLAPPER: Yes, it is.

(And guess what happened when Clapper failed to identify Iran as the "mortal threat" to the US?)

So, the Iran hawks, having failed to get the intelligence agencies to confirm their preferred narrative on Iran, have instead launched an attack using the IAEA, where thanks to replacement of Elbaradei by the more maleable Amano, they can promote the spin about Iran continuing a nuclear weapons project, contrary to what the NIE says. THAT is the true significance of the much-hyped recent IAEA report.

Originally posted by PaxVeritas

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by PaxVeritas


2) Prove that Iran is developing a Nuclear Weapon.

Unfortunately,the same could have been said for North Korea at one time.

Alas,it was proven AFTER they had attained the bomb.

After they tested it.
After they denied Nuclear inspectors,into their hidden facility's.

And yes,you can use North Korea as a sizable case study on "how to" thwart the UN,and the World when it comes to "peaceful Nuclear ambitions".

Sorry.

Straw Man...we're talking about IRAN..

Post is invalid.

Really,because it is not true,or am I making it up ? Or am I "warmongering"?

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COMMENTARY: Key IAEA report claim shown false as Israel smears ElBaradei


Thursday, 10 November 2011 08:22 Randy Talbot




A key claim in the IAEA report supposedly documenting Iran's work on a nuclear weapons program has proved to be false, Gareth Porter reported in a piece posted by Inter Press Service. -- The supposed Soviet nuclear weapons scientist allegedly working in Iran under false pretenses is in fact "not a nuclear weapons scientist but one of the top specialists in the world in the production of nanodiamonds by explosives."[1] -- Meanwhile, Israel seemed to be pulling out the stops in its effort to use the IAEA report to justify aggression against Iran. -- YNet reported that unnamed "senior Israeli officials" were making the absurd and slanderous claim that the flimsy IAEA report justifies the conclusion that Nobel Peace Prize-winner Mohamed ElBaradei was "an Iranian agent" when he headed up the IAEA.[2] -- COMMENT: -- Talk about chutzpah... -- It's interesting that if you Google "absurd Israeli claims" you get 2,700 hits; if you Google "absurd Iranian claims" you get 7 hits. -- It never ceases to amaze that mainstream media constantly recycles Israeli talking points on Iran and almost never mentions (1) that Israel is the only nuclear state in the region (est. 75-400 nuclear warheads), (2) that Israel is able to "deliver" these WMDs via ICBM, aircraft, and submarine, (3) that Israel is the only state in the region that is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, (4) that Israel has been obsessed since its inception with getting and maintaining nuclear weapons, (5) that Western powers colluded to assist Israel's development of them, and (6) that Israel is, as we see once again in the present context, committed to carrying out acts of war against other nations to prevent them from obtaining what it insists on possessing even as it refuses to admit that it possesses it....


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IAEA's 'SOVIET NUCLEAR SCIENTIST' NEVER WORKED ON WEAPONS
By Gareth Porter

Inter Press Service
November 9, 2011

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WASHINGTON -- The report of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) published by a Washington think tank Tuesday repeated the sensational claim previously reported by news media all over the world that a former Soviet nuclear weapons scientist had helped Iran construct a detonation system that could be used for a nuclear weapon.

But it turns out that the foreign expert, who is not named in the IAEA report but was identified in news reports as Vyacheslav Danilenko, is not a nuclear weapons scientist but one of the top specialists in the world in the production of nanodiamonds by explosives.

In fact, Danilenko, a Ukrainian, has worked solely on nanodiamonds from the beginning of his research career and is considered one of the pioneers in the development of nanodiamond technology, as published scientific papers confirm.

It now appears that the IAEA and David Albright, the director of the International Institute for Science and Security in Washington, who was the source of the news reports about Danilenko, never bothered to check the accuracy of the original claim by an unnamed "Member State" on which the IAEA based its assertion about his nuclear weapons background.

Albright gave a "private briefing" for "intelligence professionals" last week, in which he named Danilenko as the foreign expert who had been contracted by Iran's Physics Research Center in the mid-1990s and identified him as a "former Soviet nuclear scientist," according to a story by Joby Warrick of the Washington Post on Nov. 5.

Originally posted by PaxVeritas
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One, you just admitted to adding videos AFTER you posted. That's not how it goes. You're supposed to edit and add content....THEN publish. Only edit for grammatical errors after the fact.

On the off chance you care this i where I stopped reading your post. As I stated I will refrain from providing more evidence that you ignore because it undermines your argument. Being I added video and not text, im not exactly sure what your problem is. It didnt change my post in the least.

Again though bravo for desperately trying to change the topic.

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by PaxVeritas

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by PaxVeritas


2) Prove that Iran is developing a Nuclear Weapon.

Unfortunately,the same could have been said for North Korea at one time.

Alas,it was proven AFTER they had attained the bomb.

After they tested it.
After they denied Nuclear inspectors,into their hidden facility's.

And yes,you can use North Korea as a sizable case study on "how to" thwart the UN,and the World when it comes to "peaceful Nuclear ambitions".

Sorry.

Straw Man...we're talking about IRAN..

Post is invalid.

Really,because it is not true,or am I making it up ? Or am I "warmongering"?

No, , you're using a Straw Man. It invalidates your argument. And using other straw men to defend your original Straw Man...again...post is invalid.

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I didn't realize other countries have called for wiping Israel off the map / calling for Israels destruction.

For a person who denies the holocaust and obsesses over the destruction of Israel, he really doesn't seem all that intelligent.

Again though Bravo to you guys. Once again ignoring the topic by trying to shift the focus.

Dont you fools realize the ruth!! Jesus, Moses, the 12th Imam they were all ALIENS!!!. They are returning from the sky. Every #ing thing writtin in the hiswtory of these ancient cultures alll point to one thing, either magical all powerful spiritual entities from heaven have been here in the past and will be returning, or the more rational explanation. They are in fact simply more advanced creatures from outer space. Im not effing kidding and niether are the representatives of these ancient cultures. By the end of next year, this world will be a much more different place than anyone who is alive now was born into.

I cannot believe people will believe in either UFO's and aliens, gods demons and angels, but cannnot connect that they are all in fact different interpretations of the same #ING THING!!!!!

Whatever if I die in the beginning than good riddance, if I survive well into it I can always say I told you so, and so did the ancient cultures of our ancestors.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
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I didn't realize other countries have called for wiping Israel off the map / calling for Israels destruction.

For a person who denies the holocaust and obsesses over the destruction of Israel, he really doesn't seem all that intelligent.

Again though Bravo to you guys. Once again ignoring the topic by trying to shift the focus.

"Denies the Holocaust"?

Another (surprisingly) vague statement with appeal to emotion.

He questions the claimed numbers and data by certain groups who have a vested interest in "Holocaust History".

That's not Holocaust Denial.

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Ranting lunacy about UFOs doesn't help.

Originally posted by Xcathdra

For a person who denies the holocaust and obsesses over the destruction of Israel, he really doesn't seem all that intelligent.

Again though Bravo to you guys. Once again ignoring the topic by trying to shift the focus.

You say we are shifting the Focus, and you just Introduced the Holocaust to this thread.

Where the heck did that come from...................

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by Xcathdra

For a person who denies the holocaust and obsesses over the destruction of Israel, he really doesn't seem all that intelligent.

Again though Bravo to you guys. Once again ignoring the topic by trying to shift the focus.

You say we are shifting the Focus, and you just Introduced the Holocaust to this thread.

Where the heck did that come from...................

It ALWAYS reverts to the Holocaust.

no one wants to address the false information offered, yet again. Hoax yet?

at this point, it should go to skunk works. Proven beyond a shadow of doubt on all issues. Hoax IMO

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Not Strawman.......

Fact.


You clearly want to believe that Iran isn't capable of building a bomb,or doesn't want a bomb. Given the right amount of time,they will. Just as India,North Korea,Pakistan and Israel,has.

You are gullible enough NOT to believe it,or want to believe it.

That is your opinion,and unfortunately,We will revisit your iron clad denial,if and when Iran does.

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IAEA - IAEA Reports - IAEA reports - Iran Nov 2011

IAEA Nov 2011 report - Iran

So no, its not been proven false. Or is it your assertion the IAEA reports are all fake? Some world wide conspiracy against Iran?

Originally posted by sonnny1
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Not Strawman.......

Fact.


You clearly want to believe that Iran isn't capable of building a bomb,or doesn't want a bomb. Given the right amount of time,they will. Just as India,North Korea,Pakistan and Israel,has.

You are gullible enough NOT to believe it,or want to believe it.

That is your opinion,and unfortunately,We will revisit your iron clad denial,if and when Iran does.

If you want to discuss Iran, discuss Iran.

Using North Korea as an example of what Iran "might do" is like talking about the wonders of Chicken by describing how Pork tastes.