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Strange sounds warn us of incoming, and very soon...

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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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This is ridiculous. I remember a year or two ago, there was a big story on the news about a strange sound and someone described as sound "tunneling"...not as in digging a tunnel which is a ridiculous theory...but sound from a distant storm, bouncing off the atmosphere. Its a very plausible and realistic explanation. Imagine all the thunder and storm sound being funneled/bounced around and down to your ear. Like an echo. I think people basically are now reporting the same thing in greater frequency but only because its been brought to your attention.

For instance...if someone announces that all red cars are suspicious...guess what..you'll notice red cars a lot more than you do now. This increase in frequency of similar sounds has sparked suspicion that its a sign or warning which is ridiculous.

So I'm leaning towards either more frequent reporting of natural phenomenon, or hoax by marketing/viral campaign...or both.



I don't think the phemomenon is a hoax. Although as I have said there is a dedicated number of people out there who are either getting their kicks by copycatting using lifted scare sound tracks from movies and it seems possible (without wanting to sound totally paranioc) there are those wanting us to believe a real phenomenon is a hoax.
All that aside, you raise some good points. I agree, the idea the sound comes from machines is ridiculous for the reasons I have already mentioned in posts above. My postulate states at the top of the thread is these constitute a warning, and I believe it is linked to storms on the surface of the sun, sun flares, likely part of a natural cyclical system that for some reason (maybe a shift through the galactic plane…) the current state of the sun is extreme, not what we are used to in our recorded history, BUT nevertheless part of a cycle much longer than we have records to account for.

Yes, I do think people are now seeing 'red cars' now it has been pointed out to look for them. In other words there are genuine people who have witnessed a disturbing and unknown phenomenon who are readily recording the sound and uploading it as part of a collective inquiry.




posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Nope


I not only have corroborating videos from people in entirely different locations far away from the baseball stadium, but also quite a few related vids with not one identical track.

Your sky sounds, your lights in the sky, your spirals, etc, are all related to the same mechanics which I have outlined in my posts on this thread, and cannot be debunked, plasma science is well known.

www.youtube.com...

I will continue to lay it out for on ATS in clear detail to clear up any misconceptions you or I may have about anomalous sound propagation,

You can read all about it in the section called :

Anomalous Sound Propagation

mysite.du.edu...

we can all chew the fat together !





" Double-layer dark mode plasma discharge phenomenon, directly related to coupling between magneto-ionic flux tubes in the ionosphere and manetotelluric currents in the ground which gather electrostatic charges at surface level. "
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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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Thank you for the kind words ! I'm still not too sure what happened there ....

I will watch that tonight. I haven't learned anything about ancient prophecies because I'm mainly interested in science and physics. I usually spend 6-14 hours a day reading and studying, for at least the past 3 years," hardcore "
but I always liked science.

And even though " correlation does not equal causation ", unknown variables and non-locality seem to walk all over that if you study a wide enough range of topics to understand how things connect in complex dynamical systems, and how perturbations are handled.

So idk...we'll see. I've learned quite a bit about some things in the past few months that are quite interesting.

I chalk up everybody's " debunking " and acceptance of other peoples' debunking because there are quite a few fakes on Youtube, which is where the real videos are hosted, and the good ones are on personal blogs started by people who are genuinely interested in finding out what is causing the noises they hear.

The fakes are bumped to the top of search results by manipulated viewer counts and ratings, you know that.

I have to mention the " strange noises debunked into oblivion 2012 " video, because he did debunk some fake vids, but he also doesn't know his booty from a hole in the ground in regards to science or physics.

He doesn't know what all the big words mean


Debunking with 1% knowledge is called ineptitude in my book

en.wikipedia.org...




posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 05:42 PM
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You're still missing my point.

I'll explain it again. Now I'm not saying there is no sound phenomena that has occured over the years, but what I mean is a lot of these sound anomolies that have been recorded, have nothing that validates the trumpet sounding "strange noise" clips on YouTube. 1. The "strange noise" clips all sound the same and are completely different to the sound anomolies that you've linked me.

So concluded that the legitimate sound anomolies do not clarify these "trumpet" sounding obvious hoaxes.
What natural sound anomoly has a bellowing trumpet? None.

@Tallone

They're all hoaxes. Do some research before coming to conclusions. Why are people so persuaded without evidence.

There are of course, natural sound anomolies. But the legitimate recordings have absolutely no similarities what so ever to these new frequently happening "Strange Noises". The track is from War of the Worlds, and Red State.
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@Soupornuts

To debunk something you do not need to be a physics professor, you just need sound logic and perception. You calling this guy dumb is quite biased and to say, ad hominem.

Since you're speaking for the physicists here, can you tell me, what natural occuring sound produces trumpet noises? I'd like to see that.

I've said it a million times, and I'll say it a million times more. These "Strange Noise" clips are all hoaxes.
If anyone has a legitimate video link to one of these "strange noise" clips that they are certain is real, please link in a response to my comment.
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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 07:46 PM
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It's all explained quite well here in this presentation, everything I've detailed and more.

There is no debunking it, and you have missed my points because they are seemingly just beyond your grasp


www.youtube.com...#!




posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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I'm 40 minutes into it, let me say this:

I was very skeptical, because I am a skeptic at heart, but her presentation and the material cited so far is spotless, flawless, and also quite interesting !!

One of the few long presentations from an accredited individual that is very well done, as far as I am into it in terms of content.

I love the fact she describes the very shapes I am describing, by using NASA's observations of trumpet-shaped energy distributions at 39:12 minutes into the video.

Thumbs up from me !!

I'm familiar with electrowetting, I'm sure bridging between ice crystals would really have some interesting effects !

en.wikipedia.org...




posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 08:08 PM
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Look, I'm not trying sling insults, just friendly jabs, ok ?

here's a simple explanation for you to think about

The sound pressure ( volume ) is dictated by a toroidal pinch in the end of the plasma tube.

The tighter the pinch, and the more ions propelled through the tube, the more air is displaced, so the sounds are louder.

mysite.du.edu...

From the lower section about anomalous sound propagation.

" The absorption of sound is very small, especially in dry air. The Rayleigh-Kirchhoff "classical" absorption due to viscosity is proportional to the square of the frequency, and depends on the ratio of the wavelength to the mean free path of the air molecules. Water vapor introduces a considerable added absorption. However, the upper atmosphere is remarkably dry, so this should have an effect only near the ground. The scattering of sound by turbulence also causes a decrease in intensity, as does the usual spreading. The principal effect of what absorption there is will be to attenuate the higher frequencies, converting a sharp crack into a boom. The initial sound wave from an explosion is usually a supersonic shock wave for a distance, and will certainly be characteristically modified during long-distance propagation.

It was discovered after World War II that at times there was an acoustic velocity minimum in the neighborhood of the tropopause. This meant that sound created at this level would be reflected both above and below, and would be channeled or ducted near this minimum, as sound is in the sea. Not only is the sound absorption very low in the atmosphere, but the spreading in a duct is only 1/r, instead of the usual 1/r2 "

Depending on whether there is water vapor, and whether there are particulates, and what those particulates are, would determine the pitch/tones produced during oscillations from backward wave propagation in the plasma flux tube in dark mode, the resonating chamber found at the end of the flux tube, and this would also depend on if they were attenuating different RF frequencies ( acting as an antenna to produce mechanical oscillations )

Like this low temperature dusty plasma with a quasi-static geometry.

narn.physics.auburn.edu...

so the very are that makes the sound can change in time to produce different sounds, back and forth huffing, etc, which alo depends because the plasma torus can pinch and relax, back and forth, so the force passing through the pinch will also vary.

When the charge density becomes enough for the breakdown ionization voltage, the plasma pinches hard enough to produce visible light, which appears cone-like with it's distribution.

Like this video, where you can see the tail " reconnecting to the ground

www.youtube.com...







posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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Instead of ad hominem insults, could you actually explain "there's no debunking"? And I'm referring to the stupid trumpet noise video clips on YouTube. As I said times before which you don't seem to understand, there are legitmiate sound anomolies, but I'm referring to the trumpet "strange noise" clips, which you seem to easily believe.

Or is this too difficult for you to grasp? Which so far, seems to be.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by TheOneElectric
The first video you posted. That's audio from the Kiev incident. Trust me, I know it. Too many people are attemptign to hoax this. The real noises sound like a large airplane that is far too low, and it continues on for five to fifteen minutes.


Yeah, the "trumpet" sounds are obvious hoaxes (annoying). The long roars are most likely atmospheric ducting - jet engines, thunder, etc propagating through the atmosphere for long distances due to atmospheric conditions. I'm pretty sure this whole "strange sounds" phenomenon is yet another case of internet mass hysteria - people post a few videos of the ducting phenomenon, then these trumpet videos show up, and pretty soon they all get lumped together as "proof" of the "strange sounds" phenomenon. I'm pretty sure I've heard the indefinite roar many times throughout my life and didn't think much of it - now that I'm aware of the phenomenon, I hear it and it becomes much more significant and I start buying into the hype.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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Also, if you take the account of the infamous Egyptian " Tulli papyrus " in which the content seems to revolve around "circles of fire" that flew through the sky on two separate occasions,

en.wikipedia.org...

Some things should start to make sense, especially if you start to study toroidal plasma pinches

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...






posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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The ball is in YOUR court, Potsie, I have already outlined it in my posts in this thread, which you cannot debunk.

You know why ?

Because you'd have to disprove modern electrodynamics and plasma physics.

Go ahead and see if you can " debunk " any of my posts in this thread using the information I supplied with my links.

You know, Hegelian dialectic and all " dude "

en.wikipedia.org...

Back to you



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 10:37 PM
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I have only seen some of those videos, a lot of them are easy to identify hoaxes.

Found this while reading
Although it might not be related to what the phenomenon we're observing, it sure is intriguing.

There are some references in the Quran and Hadeeth about a "cry/scream from the sky" which brought destruction upon some civilizations.

[وَلَمَّا جَاء أَمْرُنَا نَجَّيْنَا شُعَيْبًا وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ مَعَهُ بِرَحْمَةٍ مَّنَّا وَأَخَذَتِ الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُواْ الصَّيْحَةُ فَأَصْبَحُواْ فِي دِيَارِهِمْ جَاثِمِينَ]
11:94
[And when Our Commandment came, We saved Shu'aib and those who believed with him by a Mercy from Us. And As-Saihah (torment - awful cry, etc.) seized the wrong-doers, and they lay (dead) prostrate in their homes.]

In Islamic literature it is mentioned that the nation of the prophet Saleh and the nation of the prophet Shuayb were "seized" by a "loud cry". One by a cry from the sky and the other from inside the earth.



References:
perfectquran.com...
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 11:17 PM
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You know as well as I do, that local geomagnetic field strength is what is responsible for accumulating ions, that's why we get " static electricity ", it's static because ions are " trapped " in a field, and they are the " potential " or flux density ( I admit I could be wrong about my understanding of ED ) in the field.

Now how do you know I or any other reader knows the kind of stuff you are on about? Its a bit of presumption. I might know about it. Don't take this the wrong way, what you are talking about could well be interesting to many here. But you gotta not talk in snippets of lingo that look like a bunch of headings.You gotta explain things in short easy sentences. Its a bit of a challenge when you know this stuff inside out not to use the big words without explaining them first but there you go, the audience are not all astrophysicists.




I won't bother explain the mechanics of double-layer plasmas, but I will post the link. en.wikipedia.org... So, there's a few things to think about,..they are just my ideas. Imho, the lights in the sky, the spirals, the noises, are all just variations of the same phenomenon, with varying conditions.


Its a big wide coverall theory. Could be but I'm not convinced. Yet. You need to tell us what and why.

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I'm sorry to hear about your illness.
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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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Also, if you want to , you can easily correlate my hypothesis with the work of Dr.Prof. Elchin Khalilov,

like this paper...

" Detection of magneto-gravity waves in the ionosphere by analysis of the maximum observable frequencies on oblique-sounding paths "

From the abstract:

" The existence of magneto-gravity waves stipulated by the substorm activity can lead to the occurrence of traveling ionospheric disturbances, whose velocity exceeds the sound speed. For detection of magneto-gravity waves, we used experimental data on propagation of decameter radio waves on the midlatitude and subauroral oblique sounding paths "

academic.research.microsoft.com...

Of course, remember , that's co-authored by Dr.Prof. Elchin Khalilov

en.wikipedia.org...

Who is the scientist that gave the simple explanation you guys-n-gals here at ATS seemed to like so much on this very thread

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Remember that a Magnetogravity wave is a type of plasma wave

en.wikipedia.org...

and because it's a gravity wave, which is where forces exert torque at the inter-facial boundary between two mediums, or also two layers of ionospheric plasma with different plasma densities

en.wikipedia.org...

All I have done is extend the explanation.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 11:45 PM
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I know, I know, please don't take me the wrong way, ...I'm not out to offend anybody, I'm more like Don Rickles.

Look, there's no " simplistic " explanations of hard science to laymen, aside from the basic concepts outlined by first principles.

en.wikipedia.org...

It will either take some accredited people to read it and debunk/add to

" The purpose of the dialectic method of reasoning is resolution of disagreement through rational discussion, and, ultimately, the search for truth. One way to proceed — the Socratic method — is to show that a given hypothesis (with other admissions) leads to a contradiction; thus, forcing the withdrawal of the hypothesis as a candidate for truth (see reductio ad absurdum). Another dialectical resolution of disagreement is by denying a presupposition of the contending thesis and antithesis; thereby, proceeding to sublation (transcendence) to synthesis, a third thesis. "

OR, working backwards, take my links and information outlining the premise in my hypothesis( starting in my first post ), read them, form an agreement and or antithesis , and I would gladly withdraw my conjecture, or, bolster the hypothesis, and we can sublate my hypothesis with new and.or contradictory information.

en.wikipedia.org...

Kinda like the correspondence principle..but not quite..*winkwinknudgenudge*

en.wikipedia.org...



Hope you all are having a good night !



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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Excellent collection of videos and the sounds do have the low pitch found in many of the recordings of the sky sound on line. Interesting stuff.
From the Jupiter video you link to.


Fascinating recording of Jupiter sounds (electromagnetic "voices") by NASA-Voyager. The complex interactions of charged electromagnetic particles from the solar wind , planetary magnetosphere etc. create vibration "soundscapes".

ORIGINAL SOURCE
Good stuff. Very relevant.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 12:14 AM
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Happy birthday! Nothing like having a noisy party.
What part of LA were you when you heard the sounds? From the sky?
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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 12:17 AM
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You probably ought to have at least read the intro post on page 1 before you asked. Or you want me to cut and paste it to a post on this page?



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 12:21 AM
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Yes, I'm running with you here. This is interesting. What else you got?
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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 12:36 AM
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Goodstuff! Hang around.

Are you suggesting the plasma tube has formed between sun and Earth? If so is this significant in itself? Why the intensity of sound now from this type of process? And is you Dyson example indicating perhaps, if you are correct an explanation for why the sound can be so directed at one particular area?



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