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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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Can we now stop arguing "what Ahmadinejad really said" and "what are Iran's intentions"? Because I think it is now BEYOND clear.




Calling Israel a danger to Islam, the conservative website Alef, with ties to Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said the opportunity must not be lost to remove “this corrupting material. It is a ‘jurisprudential justification” to kill all the Jews and annihilate Israel, and in that, the Islamic government of Iran must take the helm.”

The article, written by Alireza Forghani, a conservative analyst and a strategy specialist in Khamenei’s camp, now is being run on most state-owned conservative sites, including the Revolutionary Guards’ Fars News Agency, showing that the regime endorses this doctrine.


Source

And you can argue "zionist" blah blah blah all you want. Iran doesn't care about zionist vs "true Jew" or any of that nonsense. That is hair-splitting for anti Semites. Iran wants to kill all Jews everywhere. Period.




posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Will he start killing the 25000 jews living in Iran.

The ones who turned down money from Israel to leave.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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whats your point?

Bush said a lot of crazy things, and so does Obama... i will not connect the Iranian people to his words any more than i would wish someone with a nuclear weapon to connect me to my "leaders"

again... what is your point?

Ahmadinejad =/= Iran any more than Obama = America
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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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If they annihilated Israel, they'd eliminate one Gentile for every 3 Jews.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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the conservative website Alef, with ties to Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei


from

www.wnd.com

I'm not really bothered by that crap!

Whats going on has NOTHING To do with Jews.
It has everything to do with American/Israeli imperialism and them bullying and isolating a nation who hasnt done anything wrong accept stand up for its rights.

Iran hasnt done worse than Israel on the nuclear front.
Iran has done a lot LESS than Israel on the murder and genocide front
Iran has asked for direct, public dialogue where Israel has done nothing but demand and agitate

.. the sad part is, the Israeli media control the world media and thus history. Israel is a toxic shame on humanities history because no matter who the victor is, Israel will have the final, propoganda say in the US and UK!

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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 10:05 PM
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reply to post by Tw0Sides
 

In his first speech, back in '79, the Ayatollah announced that the Jewish community in Iran (which had been in Iran more than a thousand years before Islam) would be considered to be different than the Jews in Israel.

In short, the declining number of Jews in Iran are seen as a different people from Israelis, and Iran can be nice to one and kill the other.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 10:07 PM
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The Iranian Theocracy has its eye on Prophecy.


Hojjatiyeh preached that a true Islamic government can be set up only when Imam Mahdi returns, because the Islamic ruler must be completely innocent, and only the Imam qualifies. In addition, association members believe that the return will happen only when the Islamic world is in chaos and sin prevails. Some have interpreted this belief as implying that the group's members believe that people should be allowed to sin in order to prepare society for the return of Mahdi. This has been disputed by others, who hold that Hojjatiyeh believes only that people should be preached to about the return of Imam Mahdi and the conditions for his return.


Hojjatiyeh, Mesbahiyeh, and Ahmadinejad

Good read,and will make you think..........



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by charles1952

In short, the declining number of Jews in Iran are seen as a different people from Israelis, and Iran can be nice to one and kill the other.


Kind of backs up what we been saying all along.

He has no problem with Jews, Its the Zions.

Think about it.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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ah religion. isnt it wonderful. should just annihilate all extremists and politicians. throw in investment bankers in the group just for flavour if you will. what a messy world.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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I'm confused. Are you trying to equate Bush's and Obama's statements to "kill all the Jews and annihilate Israel?" Sorry, not a good comparison

You're right, I won't connect the people of the country with their leaders, but so what? It's the leaders that move armies around and lunch attacks, not the people. They're the ones to worry about. And Iran's leaders give us something to be worried about.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by BohemianBrim
 

I'm confused. Are you trying to equate Bush's and Obama's statements to "kill all the Jews and annihilate Israel?" Sorry, not a good comparison

You're right, I won't connect the people of the country with their leaders, but so what? It's the leaders that move armies around and lunch attacks, not the people. They're the ones to worry about. And Iran's leaders give us something to be worried about.


i equate "kill all the terrorists" to "kill all the muslims"

so i believe it is a very good comparison.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 10:51 PM
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Has anyone seen or heard a confirming source ?

We might want a good translation this time.

I'm not finding any other articles on this.

You would think an Israeli source would jump on this one, even if not true (yet).



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 10:58 PM
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from WND article:

The Iranian government, through a website proxy, has laid out the legal and religious justification for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its people.

The doctrine includes wiping out Israeli assets and Jewish people worldwide.

Calling Israel a danger to Islam, the conservative website Alef, with ties to Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said the opportunity must not be lost to remove “this corrupting material. It is a ‘jurisprudential justification” to kill all the Jews and annihilate Israel, and in that, the Islamic government of Iran must take the helm.”


The website proxy is in what looks like Farsi.

Can someone confirm the translations ?

دوشنبه ۱۷ بهمن ۱۳۹۰ , ۱۴ ربيع الأول ۱۴۳۳



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 11:12 PM
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دوشنبه ۱۷ بهمن ۱۳۹۰ , ۱۴ ربيع الأول ۱۴۳۳

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Monday, Persian date Bahman 17 1390, 14 Rabi al-Awwal 1433

Website has poor WOT rating. Will not visit
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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 11:22 PM
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www.alef.ir... 3D708%26prmd%3Dimvns" target="_blank" class="postlink">Google translate

Click ^^^ that part.

Nextime. You only need to paste the url into search engine query box. Then select translate on the first return.
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It seems it is just a blog of someone iranian. Suggesting how to retaliate against israel if israel attacks iran.
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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Will he start killing the 25000 jews living in Iran.

The ones who turned down money from Israel to leave.


This.
If only more people knew about Irans sizeable jewish minority (2nd largest community of jews in the middle east)...



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 01:08 AM
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alef is a news website which in the past has also criticized the Iranian government. The blog post looks really ugly. Google translate from Persian to English is not very good, but the article is also written in English (see bottom).
www.alef.ir...

I was unable to find any confirming information, that the author has ties to the Iranian government.

I was also unable to translate the Fars News Agency website. Somehow google translate was denied access to this website. The FNA website has no pictures embedded, but the Farsi text seems to be the same.
www.farsnews.com...



Fars News Agency (FNA) is a news agency in Iran. While it describes itself as "Iran's leading independent news agency",[1] news organizations such as CNN[2] and Reuters[3] describe it as a "semi-official" news agency with ties to the government. The Wall Street Journal has stated the agency is affiliated with the Revolutionary Guard Corps.[4] Its managing director Saeid Noubari is a former head of the public relations office of the Tehran Justice Department.

FNA's managing editor Mehdi Fazaeli is also the spokesman of Iran's Association of Muslim Journalists. In addition to Persian, FNA also provides news in English, Turkish and Arabic.

en.wikipedia.org...

In the past provocative posts have landed on Iranian servers, without an OK of from the authorities.
www.guardian.co.uk...

I think it is best to wait, how Iranian officials respond to this article. We should also keep in mind, that the web is used for all kinds of propaganda tricks and deceptions. Here is an interesting guardian article about how the Pentagon has planned to target the web.



A newly declassified document gives a fascinating glimpse into the US military's plans for "information operations" - from psychological operations, to attacks on hostile computer networks...

...Propaganda

The operations described in the document include a surprising range of military activities: public affairs officers who brief journalists, psychological operations troops who try to manipulate the thoughts and beliefs of an enemy, computer network attack specialists who seek to destroy enemy networks.

Perhaps the most startling aspect of the roadmap is its acknowledgement that information put out as part of the military's psychological operations, or Psyops, is finding its way onto the computer and television screens of ordinary Americans.

news.bbc.co.uk...
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posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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This story was discussed on antiwar.radio:



Muhammad Sahimi, Professor of Chemical Engineering and political columnist on Iran issues, discusses the latest anti-Iran talking point from World Net Daily and serial propagandist Reza Kahlili (“Ayatollah: Kill all Jews, annihilate Israel“); what Alireza Forghani, the blogger in question, really said about Israel and preemptive strikes; and why many Americans want to believe every anti-Muslim propaganda piece they see.

antiwar.com...

According to Sahimi, the author of the article is an unemployed programmer with no links to the Iranian government. People who call for war and want to transform a foreign nation in a desert of glass exist also in Israel and the US. They also write hateful articles and posts. Nonetheless I find this article repugnant. The interview does not explain, why this article (it appeared with a disclaimer) was also hosted on the Fars News Agency website.



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 01:31 PM
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I agree that he never said, wipe of map, he said wipe regime of the pages of history, referring to a political entity and not a racial or religious one.

when in all those videos they say (marg bar Esraiil), that does not mean death to Israel,
it means DOWN WITH, like if I say down with Ron Paul, I don't mean DEATH TO RON PAUL.

the words "marg bar " literally mean death to, but they are never meant to be taken literally. like if I say cool, it doesn't mean cold but rather nice or agreeable.

The focus is always on ZIONISM, not Jews since they have plenty of them in Iran, and it is not about Judaism, since the Iranian Jewish community even has its own schools and places of worship.

I know that the regime in Iran is terrible, but the people are just fighting against Zionism since they think it has caused too much suffering to the Palestinians, a people they identify with. The regime uses this to their advantage. That's all



posted on Feb, 8 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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A whois search has indicated that the FARSnews may not be what we seem to think.

FARS-Whois
use "farsnews.com" for the search




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