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Originally posted by defcon5
Proof: The establishment of truth, demonstration.
Demonstrate: To make evident with arguments, or reasoning.
Truth: actuality, or actual existence.
Evidence: Something which makes plain or clear, an indicator or sign.
Originally posted by atotheb
Yeah, I'm pretty sure half these myths stole Jesus' story over time.
I'm sure some could have been Jesus prophecies... sort of a collective soul vision.
Originally posted by babloyi
Odysseus was not a carpenter. According to the mythos, he was a ruler of Ithaca, and his father Laertes was a ruler of Ithaca, and his father's father Arcesius was a ruler of Ithaca, and his father's father's father Cephalus was a ruler of Phocis, his father's father's father's father Deioneus was a ruler of Phocis, and his father's father's father's father's father Aeolus was ruler of Thessaly, and his father's father's father's father's father's father was Hellen (from who the greek people came), and his father's father's father's father's father's father's father was Deucalion, an ancient Noah-like figure, and his father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father was Prometheus, who stole fire from the gods. The closest you can come to any idea of a "carpenter" is that his grandfather Arcesius shared his name with another (unrelated) architect.
According to their scriptures, Zoroaster was born of Porushaspo and Dughdhvo, he was the middle son of 5 sons. At his birth, he laughed out loud instead of crying and Ahura Mazda was supposed to have descended and entered his house at his birth. A light was said to radiate from the house when he was born.
NONE of this suggests "immaculate conception by a ray of divine reason". In fact, the use of the term "immaculate conception" shows that the author doesn't really know what they are talking about. Immaculate conception is the catholic doctrine that Mary was born without stain or sin. Since Zoroastrianism has no concept of original sin, this doctrine has absolutely nothing to do with it. The author PROBABLY meant to say that Zoroaster was born of a "virgin birth", but this is not true either (his mother had had 2 sons before him already, and there is no mention of any such thing in the scripture).
Originally posted by SwissMarked
Because the churches (the Catholic Church and it's guidance under Constantine in particular) decided to turn Jesus of Nazareth in to a god so they could intentionally damn "plebeians" to hell by intentionally keeping followers ignorant...
One of the Ten Commandments is to not worship false idols... well... if Jesus were "God" (or Yahweh) and you make a statue of him to worship how exactly is that any better than worshiping a golden calf or for the sake of brevity anything else that is not God (Yahweh)...
Jesus never claimed to be God... never claimed to be the son of God... never claimed to be much of what has over the last two centuries been attributed to him by men who dare to say they speak in his name while committing atrocities that go against every single thing Jesus (or Yeshua) was attempting to impart...
Jesus was a Jew... he took much from Jewish mysticism... much from Buddhism... and much from other "Eastern" religions to attempt to get people to achieve what he ACTUALLY claimed to do and said any of us can... which is attain "God consciousness" or "oneness with our Creator"...