looks real to me I've seen a few UFO's do something similar
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reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 08:27 AM by nineix
Your thread with the additional videos you posted was closed before I could send my response.
In regard to this posting: Direct relation ...
While I'm confident you saw something that night described in this thread, as of yet understood or identified to your satisfaction, and thus Unidentified, these, I feel are likely unrelated as they do indeed appear to be the much reported and mistaken Chinese lanterns.
I've friends from Brazil that set these off, thus, with that, such lanterns aren't uncommon in places other than China, Japan, Thailand and such.
These in the two videos have the characteristic orange/yellow tinge found with the open flame lanterns, and if watched closely in the highest resolution, they do indeed appear to flicker.
While they don't illuminate the paper frame of the lantern as seen in the video Gortex kindly referenced for us, not all Chinese lanterns are equal or made the same.
As one of the posters claimed, Chinese lanterns go out fairly quick, which from direct personal real life observation at festivals I can attest is not always true. Some Chinese lanterns can last a good while, depending on how they're made.
Did you know there are some festivals which have lantern races to see who's lantern goes the farthest, highest, etc.?
Anyway, I'm with many in agreement that these two videos are indeed Chinese lanterns.
Once again, this does not invalidate what YOU saw personally.
In regard to this posting: Direct relation ...
While I'm confident you saw something that night described in this thread, as of yet understood or identified to your satisfaction, and thus Unidentified, these, I feel are likely unrelated as they do indeed appear to be the much reported and mistaken Chinese lanterns.
I've friends from Brazil that set these off, thus, with that, such lanterns aren't uncommon in places other than China, Japan, Thailand and such.
These in the two videos have the characteristic orange/yellow tinge found with the open flame lanterns, and if watched closely in the highest resolution, they do indeed appear to flicker.
While they don't illuminate the paper frame of the lantern as seen in the video Gortex kindly referenced for us, not all Chinese lanterns are equal or made the same.
As one of the posters claimed, Chinese lanterns go out fairly quick, which from direct personal real life observation at festivals I can attest is not always true. Some Chinese lanterns can last a good while, depending on how they're made.
Did you know there are some festivals which have lantern races to see who's lantern goes the farthest, highest, etc.?
Anyway, I'm with many in agreement that these two videos are indeed Chinese lanterns.
Once again, this does not invalidate what YOU saw personally.
reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 01:00 PM by Lookingsky11
reply to post by nineix
Thank you Ninex- I apologize my other thread was removed. I have no idea as to reason for that.
Ok- the Chinese lantern thing actually sounds viable. I mean from a far away standing point, you are right, they can absolutely look like "glowing fireballs" I have seen some other vids on youtube now that could hold a slight resemblance. Guess we wont ever know
Thank you for the detailed
hypothesis!
Thank you Ninex- I apologize my other thread was removed. I have no idea as to reason for that.
Ok- the Chinese lantern thing actually sounds viable. I mean from a far away standing point, you are right, they can absolutely look like "glowing fireballs" I have seen some other vids on youtube now that could hold a slight resemblance. Guess we wont ever know
Thank you for the detailed
hypothesis!reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 03:04 PM by nineix
reply to post by Lookingsky11
From what I can see, that ancillary post was closed because it was too closely related to this on since it referenced this thread from the start.
Such is understandable and makes sense.
If, however, you were to simply create a post, should you find something new/similar to what you saw, but simply posted it along the lines of "Interesting lights. What are these?", then forum mods may consider it an independent enough thread to stand on it's own legs without the mother topic here hovering too close by.
The problem with ambiguous lights in the sky, however, is that they are ambiguous. Most, lights in the sky videos wind up being a person or group of persons running around on a hillside in the pitch black creating the illusion of flying objects darting about in the night sky, Chinese lanterns, Jupiter and/or Venus ( described earlier with video example early in this thread), LED Kites, LED balloons, Commercial Blimps, RC Blimps, RC helicopters or planes, Flares from flare guns, Counter measure flares from military aircraft, passenger balloons in many odd shapes and interesting sizes (some even decked out with LEDs around gondola, under the gondola, or even purpose placed on the skin of the balloon), and then there's Satellites that mysteriously 'disappear', or 'cloak', when in fact they're just passing into the Earth's shadow and no longer reflecting sunlight.
There's even a number of people that post pictures and video of UFOs, that are just reflections of light off a window they're shooting behind, with is sadly misleading, sometimes provoking many the true believer type to pull out Photoshop to use the emboss filter and other graphics tools to 'prove' the reflection is a solid object.
Unfortunately, what many don't understand is that manipulating an image to see what you WANT to see, is simply that; manipulating an image.
Sometimes bugs, or birds, and bats are caught in shafts of light, creating the illusion due to perspective, distances, and the limited abilities of consumer grade cheap electronic video recorders of something else.
All these things exist, and more, and all of them have been video'd many many many times, posted on Youtube, and sold as UFOs, or as in some languages, OVNI:
OVNI Objeto Volador No Identificado (Spanish: Unidentified Flying Object)
OVNI Objet Volant Non-Identifié (French: Unidentified Flying Object)
OVNI Oggetto Volante Non Identificato (Italian: Unidentified Flying Object)
OVNI Objecto Voador Não Identificado (Portuguese: Unidentified Flying Object)
In mention of OVNI, that may assist in your search to find related material by doing searches for OVNI instead of the English term UFO.
You may then, indeed find video of the same object you saw, filmed at the same time, by someone else from a different perspective, possibly with zoom.
Keep in mind that the zoom feature on cheap consumer grade electronics and phones due to the shutter leafs and other constraining factors often creates misleading and/or inaccurate video.
The only reason I know all this stuff, other than professional experience as a photographer/artist in regard to optics, photo and video, is that I've been keeping tabs on this phenomenon for decades.
Too too often, in fact, most every time, especially since many people are hoaxing sightings on purpose, videos and photos of sightings turn out to be misidentification due to witnesses innocently viewing and thinking they've seen something significant, or even purposely creating and filming their own 'ufo'.
Why people do this, I've no clue.
It certainly makes things extremely difficult for cross comparison of a genuine sighting.
All best to you and I hope you find something. Your passion and tenacity in pursuing this personal sighting in looking for comparative/similar video bespeaks of a genuine sighting of something truly unidentified.
That's why they are called Unidentified Flying Objects.
From what I can see, that ancillary post was closed because it was too closely related to this on since it referenced this thread from the start.
Such is understandable and makes sense.
If, however, you were to simply create a post, should you find something new/similar to what you saw, but simply posted it along the lines of "Interesting lights. What are these?", then forum mods may consider it an independent enough thread to stand on it's own legs without the mother topic here hovering too close by.
The problem with ambiguous lights in the sky, however, is that they are ambiguous. Most, lights in the sky videos wind up being a person or group of persons running around on a hillside in the pitch black creating the illusion of flying objects darting about in the night sky, Chinese lanterns, Jupiter and/or Venus ( described earlier with video example early in this thread), LED Kites, LED balloons, Commercial Blimps, RC Blimps, RC helicopters or planes, Flares from flare guns, Counter measure flares from military aircraft, passenger balloons in many odd shapes and interesting sizes (some even decked out with LEDs around gondola, under the gondola, or even purpose placed on the skin of the balloon), and then there's Satellites that mysteriously 'disappear', or 'cloak', when in fact they're just passing into the Earth's shadow and no longer reflecting sunlight.
There's even a number of people that post pictures and video of UFOs, that are just reflections of light off a window they're shooting behind, with is sadly misleading, sometimes provoking many the true believer type to pull out Photoshop to use the emboss filter and other graphics tools to 'prove' the reflection is a solid object.
Unfortunately, what many don't understand is that manipulating an image to see what you WANT to see, is simply that; manipulating an image.
Sometimes bugs, or birds, and bats are caught in shafts of light, creating the illusion due to perspective, distances, and the limited abilities of consumer grade cheap electronic video recorders of something else.
All these things exist, and more, and all of them have been video'd many many many times, posted on Youtube, and sold as UFOs, or as in some languages, OVNI:
OVNI Objeto Volador No Identificado (Spanish: Unidentified Flying Object)
OVNI Objet Volant Non-Identifié (French: Unidentified Flying Object)
OVNI Oggetto Volante Non Identificato (Italian: Unidentified Flying Object)
OVNI Objecto Voador Não Identificado (Portuguese: Unidentified Flying Object)
In mention of OVNI, that may assist in your search to find related material by doing searches for OVNI instead of the English term UFO.
You may then, indeed find video of the same object you saw, filmed at the same time, by someone else from a different perspective, possibly with zoom.
Keep in mind that the zoom feature on cheap consumer grade electronics and phones due to the shutter leafs and other constraining factors often creates misleading and/or inaccurate video.
The only reason I know all this stuff, other than professional experience as a photographer/artist in regard to optics, photo and video, is that I've been keeping tabs on this phenomenon for decades.
Too too often, in fact, most every time, especially since many people are hoaxing sightings on purpose, videos and photos of sightings turn out to be misidentification due to witnesses innocently viewing and thinking they've seen something significant, or even purposely creating and filming their own 'ufo'.
Why people do this, I've no clue.
It certainly makes things extremely difficult for cross comparison of a genuine sighting.
All best to you and I hope you find something. Your passion and tenacity in pursuing this personal sighting in looking for comparative/similar video bespeaks of a genuine sighting of something truly unidentified.
That's why they are called Unidentified Flying Objects.
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