Originally posted by spav5
I will say right now..I did not read all of the posts.
I went to college in the 80's. I never witnessed this indoctrination of the "left" as I have heard claimed many times.
Not once not ever.
Seems funny that the ones screaming the most about this indoctrination are those that didn't attend college...or if they had, they too would be
Well, I have been indoctrinated; I've been told that the USA is the "good guys" and that Capitalism has been behind all the great progress in
history. ON my own, I discovered that money is the worst motivation, and at my company, they spent money trying to make people feel good about their
jobs, in exchange for raises.
It wasn't some Hippy pot-fueled teepee where I learned that Capitalism and the USA might not be the best they could be -- it was by living in the
world of capitalists and READING and using my own eyes.
>> The "Hate America First" -- was never my inclination. It's was my disappointment in something I cared about. Learning of what the Reagan-ear
government was doing in Latin America -- their support of drug cartels, their assassinations of Union organizers and people who pushed a
non-capitalist agenda on numerous occasions, and their exploitation of workers in all cases is the REASON I started wondering what other lies I was
I started in an advanced school in kindergarten, came to the South in first grade, and by third grade I was put in a "short school bus" school
because they suspected I was dyslexic and could not read. Then someone helped me use phonics, and in two weeks I was at a college level, I then
entered an Episcopal school in 5th grade, and did better, and they gave me an IQ test and realized I was actually just bored so they put me in an
advanced academy in 6th grade.
I skipped grades 7,8,9, and went into tenth grade. I went to a liberal arts and engineering school because I wanted to be a writer and scientist. Then
I went to an art school and graduated Deans List, then I went to two more years of school to get a degree in Computer Information Systems at a normal
state college. Why do I cover this eclectic and diverse education background?
>> In all that time, I'd never ONCE had anyone in my class try to tell me to vote one way or another, or tell me about the evils of America or in any
way disparage religion. We just don't talk about this crap.
The only time I was slightly political was in art school -- and in rebellion to overly Liberal sentiments. Though some people really do treat animals
rights as a religion -- it's not really a huge part of the really diverse group that comprises the Left in the USA. I think for a few years I might
have been slightly Conservative.
I had been listening to Neal Bortz up until that time on the radio -- for entertainment purposes -- and I realized that everything I knew was wrong. I
didn't respond to this realization by getting angry at the truth teller -- I stopped listening to the shill who had lied to me. Boortz and people
like Limbaugh, were appealing to my white, middle class male vanity and insecurities, and they try to explain the world as being messed up because it
isn't exactly like you.
Finally, I worked at an office with a very brilliant and perhaps crazy Jewish guy (he looked almost exactly like Karl Sagan) who explained that the
"voucher system" was merely a ruse to destroy public education. He explained that the Drug Trade was infiltrated and controlled by the CIA. He
explained that there was one faction of Jews called the Likudniks who wanted to "Purify" the Hebrew race -- and something about Ashkenazi and other
factions -- which I really balked at, so I don't remember much. He told me about a lot of crazy things ... and all of them ended up being proven true
over time, as I learned more about how the world really works. I'm glossing over a lot of things that I won't PROVE to people by merely mentioning
them -- it's just that, with a few hints and the right questions -- my entire world view was of my own discovery and after the age of 25 when I'd
finished my formal education.
I'd say I was indoctrinated to become a consumer, and to believe that this country didn't shoot first or torture, and that we supported Democracy
around the world. I discovered that I was wrong -- and my head did not explode. You don't have to be clue-less to be a Conservative, but you probably
have to be hard-headed to remain one in the age of the Internet and the dissemination of "inconvenient truths" that used to be rare.
Any 20-something growing up and reading a blog like Digg on a daily basis, has to be really committed to ignorance to keep buying into the nonsense
Conservatives tell them.