Are Liberals REALLY More Intelligent Than Conservatives?

reply to post by Stormdancer777



Oh same as that, I'm quite conservative on some issues...I don't consider myself anything really.
It just seems, that usually, my opinions usually tie in with Liberal Ideals.

Difference Between Liberals and Conservatives

If a Conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a Liberal doesn't like guns, they believe no one should have one.

If a Conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat. If a Liberal is, they want to ban all meat products for everyone.

If a Conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy. A Liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.

If a Conservative is homosexual, he quietly enjoys life. If a Liberal is homosexual, they loudly demand legislated respect.

If a Conservative is a minority , he sees himself as independently successful. Their Liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.

If a Conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A Liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a Conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

If a Conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A Liberal wants all churches to be silenced.

If a Conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A Liberal demands that his neighbors pay for his.

If a Conservative disagrees with a Liberal president, he is called a racist. When a Liberal disagrees with a Conservative president, it's patriotic dissent.

If a Conservative expresses his political view, he is called an idiot. A Liberal expressing his political views is expressing his right to Freedom of Speech.

“I never use the words Democrats and Republicans. It’s Liberals and Americans.
- James Watt, Ronald Reagan’s Interior Secretary

I agree, I'm just a person who has opinions and ideals and so on.... being labelled a liberal is seen by some as some sort of insult or something... I don't get it?

Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.


Even if I am a liberal.... being Liberal is a very good thing... and by that I mean the actual definition of liberal... not what many have come to call liberals as some sort of attack or insult.
reply to post by blupblup


Yes, I completely agree with you. This is why I am always so confused when I try to have meaningful debate about "politics" with others and they immediately tell me "your just a mindless liberal". I never get that. I always feel as though the other person feels stumped by my perception of the process or is uncomfortable because what I say makes sense to them, and they don't want to admit it, or something along those lines. All I know is I am a free thinking human, non classifiable. I believe in the right to express, see positive in everything and look towards the future, positively, learning from the past.

reply to post by Henley


HUH?? so humans go into two categories? makes no sense, does it? not everyone thinks black and white kiddo

Originally posted by blupblup
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

Oh same as that, I'm quite conservative on some issues...I don't consider myself anything really.
It just seems, that usually, my opinions usually tie in with Liberal Ideals.

I took an online test once and it said I leaned libertarian, another said I leaned really strongly towards socialism,

I guess one reason is because I don't think in a country like America or any country for that matter, there should be homeless or those without medical care, or hungry.

But I also believe there is a limit, and think there is a better way, and that is helping people learn to help themselves, I don't think one should be dependent on charity, and I believe it keeps many down.

Sorry blup, didn't recognize you with that new avatar.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I took an online test once and it said I leaned libertarian, another said I leaned really strongly towards socialism,
I guess one reason is because I don't think in a country like America or any country for that matter, there should be homeless or those without medical care, or hungry.

Indeed, I feel the same way.
In a civilised society, you must provide for those who cannot provide for themselves.

But I also believe there is a limit, and think there is a better way, and that is helping people learn to help themselves, I don't think one should be dependent on charity, and I believe it keeps many down.

But yes, being reliant on such help for too long helps nobody.

That whole "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" springs to mind.

Sorry blup, didn't recognize you with that new avatar.

Hey

Was a little tired of the cult of Ron Paul.. so for laugh, put this one up.

I really have to wonder in the big picture if most people don't really lean 'Libertarian' at heart.

I think the old 'conservative' vs. 'liberal' debate is a dying breed, I seem to sense more people are starting to look to the 'third way'.

Originally posted by Lookingsky11
reply to post by Henley

 

HUH?? so humans go into two categories? makes no sense, does it? not everyone thinks black and white kiddo

There are always two categories with everything in life. Just a few examples are:

Night and Day - Right or Wrong - Sick or Well - Summer or Winter - Fall or Spring - Late or Early - Cold or Hot - Big or Little - Fat or Skinny - Boy or Girl.

This could go on and on but hopefully you see my point.

"Two sides to every coin"

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Liberals don't believe corporations are people. That fact alone is proof of their superior intellect.

Originally posted by Henley

Originally posted by Lookingsky11
reply to post by Henley

 

HUH?? so humans go into two categories? makes no sense, does it? not everyone thinks black and white kiddo

There are always two categories with everything in life. Just a few examples are:

Night and Day - Right or Wrong - Sick or Well - Summer or Winter - Fall or Spring - Late or Early - Cold or Hot - Big or Little - Fat or Skinny - Boy or Girl.

This could go on and on but hopefully you see my point.

"Two sides to every coin"



I can see what you are trying say, absolutely. But i see a milue of things in the middle. Morning/mid day/twilight, Neutral/semi right/semi wrong, getting sick/getting better, Autumn, mid day, warm, medium, boy&girl..LOL...i hate to point out the perplexities of the human ibid, but it is impossible to compare human nature, to nature in raw. I get ying yang but there is much in between.

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Originally posted by Henley

Originally posted by Lookingsky11
reply to post by Henley

 

HUH?? so humans go into two categories? makes no sense, does it? not everyone thinks black and white kiddo

There are always two categories with everything in life. Just a few examples are:

Night and Day - Right or Wrong - Sick or Well - Summer or Winter - Fall or Spring - Late or Early - Cold or Hot - Big or Little - Fat or Skinny - Boy or Girl.

This could go on and on but hopefully you see my point.

"Two sides to every coin"

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Black and white are not the only options, we have shades of gray and many colors as well.

We also have people who are predominately 'fiscally conservative' but yet 'socially liberal' where do they fit?

The Hegelian Dialectic between only 2 'opposing' views seems completely archaic and simplistic in this new century.

reply to post by iggy50


Oh but they are, when it comes to paying taxes.

The owner(s) of a corporation are taxed. The term owner is also considered a person.

Of course, though a business remits taxes, it never really “pays” them: business tax burdens fall on owner(s). But that is equally true of the federal corporate income tax and the state and local taxes that businesses pay. A corporation with a surprisingly light federal tax bill may well be paying more than its “fair share” of state and local taxes. As with individuals, you should look at the full picture before you decide who is taxed too much or too little.

reply to post by Lookingsky11


What a perfect world we would live in if everyone was in the middle and everyone agreed. It's unfortunate that we live in a world of disagreement.

Liberals against Conservatives, blacks against whites, atheist's against Christians, countries against countries.

Seems the fighting never stops. Sad isnt it

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

After the storm, I would imagine we wont ask one another what political affiliation we embrace.

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Very true.

One thing to think about is which school of thought will help us best survive that storm?

Is it the school who decides the worth of projects based on their end profitability or is it the school that believes in pooling our resources to do what is best for society as a whole?

If one were lucky enough to have access to a deep underground bunker, then one may go with the profiteers. If one didn't, one would likely side with those trying to save everyone else.

It seems to me that since only about 1/4% of the population can go those bunkers and America is split pretty much between the idealogies, then it would appear the conservatives are likely the least intelligent. Why adhere to a philosophy that has your leaders treating you as disposable, in order to save their own behinds.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
My impression is that liberals are stronger in thinking and conservatives stronger in doing.

I think that is close. I believe it's that conservatives are willing to stomp on people to get their way and liberals are not. The second thing it seems is that conservatives refuse to give an inch and expect liberals to to give a million inches.

Conservatives seem to = partisan and Liberal seems to = bipartisan

That has been my take on it.

I don't like "either" party, it just keeps dividing the people more and more.

Harm None
Peace

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by Snoopy1978
You must be very bored to attempt this hillarious pot stirring. It has been scientifically proven time and again what we all knew for ages. Conservatives are ruled by fear, are tribal and xenophobic. They refuse to accept progress and support the status quo while remaining blissfully ignorant of what goes behind the veil of propaganda. All this is rooted in FEAR. Cowardly individuals will reject critical thinking in exchange for illusory safety.

WOW,

Do you actually know any conservatives?

I could have sworn I have heard the same thing said about liberals.

It is very much about tribalism, Snoopy, on both side, when push comes to shove and it really becomes about survival, I hope Americans come together, I think they will.

After the storm, I would imagine we wont ask one another what political affiliation we embrace.

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Being a liberal is the easiest choice someone can make.

No thoughts only feelings.

"Liberals" and "Conservatives" don't exist. It's corporations VERSUS YOU.

End of story.

Originally posted by Carseller4
Being a liberal is the easiest choice someone can make.

No thoughts only feelings.

You wanna expand on that , as it makes absolutely no sense. You don't believe liberals have thoughts. Only conservatives have thoughts?

Being a liberal is not an easy choice, especially when you live in a conservatively dominated country.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
My impression is that liberals are stronger in thinking and conservatives stronger in doing.

Absolutely. If we got together we would be an incredible force. Hence why it's so important to keep us fighting amongst ourselves and publishing rubbish as fact as in these "studies". If we are fighting, we are not in solidarity even though we are countrymen.

It's sad to see how many enjoy this polarization and can't seen to recognize they have been played.