Disclaimers: Please do not test me on these; I will not debate them, period. (And, more importantly, they aren’t the topic of the thread.)
Allow me to begin by saying emphatically NO this is not a trolling thread.
This is not an anti-Semite thread. (I do pray for the peace of Jerusalem upon occasion as the bible says to do)
And this is NOT a Zionist thread, nor a “Jews rule the World, rule the media, run the banks, run the lemonade stand down the street.” Ad
Now do I believe there are elements of these things that are true? Yes, because govts are run by men, and most men only care about this life, and all
the money, power, and fame they can get their greedy lil hands on.
One further caveat; I view things through a prophetic mindset, it’s usually how I see things concerning Israel. If you could care less about bible
prophecy, this thread may mean lil to you, but I would ask that you do not mock those that do believe. Also, this is not a prophecy thread either.
(This means you brothers & sisters in Christ.) I do not wish to get into whose interpretation is right & wrong, and I could absolutely CARE LESS what
the early church fathers said, b/c plainly put, there was no Israel when they lived, so their opinion is moot.
If my disclaimers seem rude or too restrictive, I apologize; they are only meant to stop fires & thread derailments BEFORE they begin, nothing more,
so let’s begin.
Iran is looking for the 12 Iman, (which is their version of the Messiah) you can find that info
, you can find the lie that Ahmadinejad isn’t looking for him
(or changed his mind) and you can find exactly what the 12’ers
(those that believe in the prophecy here
. So what is the point? How does Israel play into
all of this, let alone AGREE with Iran? The thought is repugnant to some, and laughable to the rest, right? Maybe, maybe not. Consider the fact that
on March 2nd 2010 the head of the Temple Mount Institute, (The place most responsible for Temple proceedings, rituals & forward momentum) Rabbi Chaim
Richman, announced the birth of a Kosher Red Heifer
. Keep in mind that in
’97 & ’02 this same announcement was issued about two other red heifers, but within six months’ time, both were disqualified. This third one has
NOT (as of this posting) been disqualified. There are ZERO announcements stating such, and further proof that it is still indeed kosher. That
“proof” can be found here
with the announcement of an animal sacrifice that
hasn’t happened in over 1500 years.
But what does this religion lesson have to do with Iran? Will you get to the point already? (Patience padawan, the background info is important so you
can understand the mentality behind these two religions/powers)
Iran believes that they are responsible for the upcoming Mahdi to appear, and that they are to
""lead the way"
". Keep in mind, Iran must remain intact; if they go to war with Israel
directly, they will lose. Iran has always used “proxy states” to weaken Israel. Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, etc without getting directly involved. The
purpose of this is to be the number one power in the middle east by weakening their neighboring countries & by ensuring the Mahdi , (Islam’s most
religious leader next to Muhammad) will reside with them. You can read the in-depth belief of the Mahdi & it’s connection with Iran
. Also, keep in mind that Iran is NOT Arabic! They’re Persian!
Now we have Iran’s motives defined, what about Israel?
Depending on your POV, it is either the United States trying to undermine Israel’s stability in the Middle East by replacing (for the most part)
benign rulers (despots) that have pro-West ideals, (read Mubarak who has been pro-West for 30 years) & Gadhafi who basically was trying to make Libya
an independent nation, (you can see his “virtues here
at ATS) with militant
anti-Israel leaders to make the M.E. even more unstable. OR, and this is a big “OR”, it is Israel leading the U. S. MIC to make the M.E. unstable
to bring about the coming Middle East war which would lead to the building of THEIR (Israel) third temple.
Absurd? What crazy thoughts lead you to publish such asinine rubbish? Well, Israel has been waiting for the Third Temple for quite some time, but they
know (Israel) that the time to build the Third temple won’t happen until there’s a war first, specifically the war of Gog/Magog in Ezekiel 38 &
The nation’s listed in Ez. 38 & 39 are as follows: Russia, Central Asia, Turkey, (which was no longer an ally as of 2009) Iran, Sudan, Libya, &
“other Islamic nations” as the bible states. Do you see the connection? Why is it that the Arab league is HELPING the US? For surely there should
be solidarity in the Middle East to come against the US & Nato, for a true legitimate Jihad. And yet there isn’t one, why? Because pro-West leaders
and the ones that wish to be left alone to rebuild and help their people, and being replaced with those that are very anti-Israel.
Is Israel setting up the Military Industrial Complex of the West so that they can have their “war” so they can build their Third Temple? Rabbi’s
can read the Torah as well as anyone else, and know that they won’t get a Third Temple until THIS war occurs. They clearly believe that it is
feasible, since they already are acclimating their people to the idea of animal sacrifices again with last year’s sacrifice. Furthermore,
unbeknownst to most gentiles, there is an age limit involved with the Red Heifer. It MUST be sacrificed within three years of its birth. It’s also
important to note that the importance of the Red Heifer is for purification purposes, the temple can’t even be built until this purification process
happens. To go back to the Old Testament history we have God's Covenant with Abraham stamped with this number of Divine perfection (Gen 15). It was
(like David's, 2 Samuel 7) Divinely "ordered in all things, and sure." God was ONE, i.e., the one party to it; for Abraham, who would willingly
have been the other party, was put to sleep, that the Covenant might be unconditional, and "sure to all his seed." The Divine seal is seen in the
choice of three animals, each of three years old (the heifer, the she-goat, and the ram). These, together with the two birds (the dove and the
pigeon), made five in all, marking it all as a perfect act of free-grace on the part of a sovereign God.
Is it possible that the Jun 2011 sacrifice, sanctioned by Rabbi’s I listed prior are the bird sacrifices mentioned in this passage of scripture?
continued on next post.