Are people ignoring the facts about Homosexuality?

Here's another goody by Boys. Not on homosexuality - - but gives you a clear pic this guy is extreme.

Dr. Boys notes that people of the Islam persuasion of the Middle East (Sunni and Shia) detest America as the great Satan. These Mohammedans would dance in the streets if a catastrophic terrorist attack was successful and murdered thousands of Americans. How can say that? I witnessed the cameras of the streets of Palestine, Syria and Iran on TV show Mohammedans dancing in a jubilant frenzy at the news of the Twin Towers. Not cool! Dr. Boys calls for the destruction of Mohammedan holy sites if the Terrorists continue in their efforts to murder Americans. I say Amen! www.slantright.com...

Originally posted by Annee
reply to post by rainbowbear

 

Always research the author or website:

Dr. Don Boys was born in West Virginia, and received his early education there. Following his salvation as a teen, he preached on the streets of Huntington, in the jails, parks and missions. He entered Moody Bible Institute immediately after high school, was married and continued his education at Tennessee Temple College, Immanuel College and Heritage Baptist University where he earned his Ph.D. While an evangelist and Christian school administrator, Boys was elected to the Indiana House of Representatives, and was identified by the media as the ”most conservative member of the General Assembly.” www.cstnews.com...

Just so we are clear, there is absoluely NO reason for his article to be biased...?

I am loving the fact that the subject of this thread is causing Google to push "gay" adverts to the viewer!

My personal feeling about gayness, is I have NO problem with it, until they try to take over the world.

So, straight people taking over the world is acceptable to you?

From a survival point-of-view: If everyone was gay, the human race would soon be extinct. From a personal point-of-view: I don't have a problem with it. I have a few gay friends who I get on well with.

It's the "campness" in gay's that I cannot stand however. I don't see why they feel the need to try and act feminine, that is my real issue on the subject.

reply to post by Annee


Ad Hominems aside, are his claims any less valid?

reply to post by baskerville


nope, you read correctly

Originally posted by rainbowbear
reply to post by Annee

 

Ad Hominems aside, are his claims any less valid?

Less valid?

They'd have to have validity first.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


Could you please state your proof on this.

I've studied the subject and although there are, undoubtedly, passages in the bible that call homosexuality an abomination the best known being Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." but you have to understand the historical context in which it was written, if you do not, the rest of the rules also still apply (you can't pick only the ones that you agree with ) and then you end up with things like .. Leviticus 19:19 "thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee." or Leviticus 19:26 " Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times. "
And many other examples that i'm sure you know.

You could also mention Sodoma and Gomorra, well, it is my honest opinion that it was about the poor attitude that the citizens developed, the egocentricity and a poor attitude against travelers and foreigners. It was the law that they had to take everyone in, yes strangers, entertain them.

The part refering to the sex between the men, where they said they would "rape" the strangers is about anal sex in itself.
You see, in that time rape was usual and even soldiers did it to enemies after defeating them, it was a form of humiliating another man.

en.wikipedia.org...

This one is about war rape.

www.heroichomosex.org...

This one is about the practice of rape in ancient times and it's use.

So, tell me again about that "my lord is against it" thing

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by rainbowbear
reply to post by Annee

 

Ad Hominems aside, are his claims any less valid?

Less valid?

They'd have to have validity first.

This is not the way to understanding!

Originally posted by Hellas
reply to post by rainbowbear

 

Weird Thread for someone with the nick name 'Rainbowbear'...

lol that was funny...

As far as I'm aware, there are no studies that find a genetic component to homosexuality. I therefore have always viewed it as a sexual practice and a sexual attraction, even before becoming a Christian and understanding God's view on it, which coincidentally, is nearly the same (e.g. Against creation).

But I'm 45, probably in the mid to upper age range of most here on ATS. Even when I grew up, attitudes were mostly consistent to my view. Today however, it is pushed as an agenda in the western nations. There is hardly a tv show or film without a homosexual or lesbian, courts are now applying "discrimination" in all aspects of the homosexual lifestyle equal to race or gender. In such a short time our western nations, once heavily Christian, are now having an agenda pushed to glorify what many still see as a sexual practice.

Then looking into the "agenda" aspect, there is so much material for anyone to read. Our youngsters are inundated with media pushing this stuff as a healthy and natural thing to experiment with. Why was the question for me. Have a read of a report put into the 1963 US Congressional Record regarding 45 Current Communism goals designed to subvert America from it's once Christian morality roadsassy.com...

I'll list just a few:

"21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

(All quotes from the above source)

These were put into the 1963 US Congressional Record. Looking at these, nobody can deny that they have beem accomplished. But why the agenda?

From a non-religious viewpoint, Lenin said it best "The best revolutionary is a youth devoid of morals." All of you viewing the threads of the growing threats of communism and the FEMA camps might take notice.

From a biblical viewpoint "II Timothy 3:1-5,7 "But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come.  For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of god; holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

It's an agenda, and our youngest generation has swallowed the propaganda as truth. So much so, they spit hatred at Christians for believing God's word that it is a sexual deviation. Good to them is now evil and evil is now called good. If you cannot connect the authors of communism to who owns and controls all of our media sources, and realise both work for the same goal - to create a population that rejects Christ Jesus, then you have bought the lies and choose to carry on believing them. I don't know how else to say it, but please stop with the most hypocritical statements that Christian morality is "brainwashing" when most themselves have been brainwashed purposefully with humanism and anti-christ agenda.

To be honest, I don't get how you can listen to someone with no evidence that claims things like these...

Homosexuals do recruit as classic studies prove. In fact, about half of the adult homosexuals were seduced into perversion before age 14. Homosexuals molest young boys far more than heterosexuals molest girls .

Homosexuals indulge in incredible, unbelievable, vile, vulgar, even violent activities detrimental to themselves and society such as fisting (don’t ask); rimming (don’t ask again); illegal drug use; eating or rubbing their bodies with a lover’s feces; autoerotic asphyxiation (about 1,000 die each year); sadomasochism, urine drinking; golden showers (water sports); insertion of bottles, flashlights and other objects up a “lovers” rear; and other repulsive activities.

Homosexual “couples” should not be permitted to adopt children. Various studies suggest that children of homosexuals are three times more likely to become homosexuals than children reared by normal people. Moreover, children are generally not safe in homosexual homes. Homosexual “families” have the highest rate of family violence and the deviate environment is disastrous to children

Most homosexuals experience far more domestic violence than normal people. A federal government study of 6,779 married couples reported that about 5% of normal marriages experience violence each year while another study revealed that about half lesbian couples experience violence.

Homosexuals make up less than 2% of the American population yet they have perpetrated about 68% of all serial killings in the last 30 years; were the original source of AIDS in America; and are the driving force for syphilis (64%) and other STDs in America!

Gay people just love killing, fisting, divorcing, beating and paedophilia. That’s right, they’re basically worse than Stalin. Stalin never gave people AIDS. (Sarcasm).

This bigoted bag of crap shouldn't be listened to, by anyone.

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Repeating for EMPHASIS, because it is so valid:

This bigoted bag of crap shouldn't be listened to, by anyone.

Done.

Originally posted by rainbowbear

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by rainbowbear
reply to post by Annee

 

Ad Hominems aside, are his claims any less valid?

Less valid?

They'd have to have validity first.

This is not the way to understanding!

Understanding what? That Boys is an extreme right wing fundamental Christian.

I've been reading and researching homosexual information for 20+ years. Boys is a nut case with an agenda.

Originally posted by yourboycal2

I have no problem with gay people ,

only thing i really dislike ,

is two dudes making out in public areas.

Originally posted by theBigToe
You clearly HAVE a problem with gay people then.

Did you watch the video? Clearly, the evidence yourboycal2 presented discredits your accusation.

I don't enjoy seeing ANYBODY making out and I never saw the attraction to porn either.

I think both nature and nurture can be credited for the "gay" experience. Personally, I was sexually assaulted by women as a young child and am extremely homophobic of lesbians. I don't have a problem with their lifestyle, I have a fear of being assaulted. I know, its unrealistic to think that lesbians = rapist, but what can I tell ya?

I have had many gay male friends and some real enemies. There is a certain kind of gay male that has an aversion to strong women. I think this dripping disdain of women must be a "nurture" issue. Although, according to the video, women who have given birth to numerous males produce chemicals to attack the fetus. This could, I suppose, impose psychological effects, a confusion of mom being an enemy deep in the subconscious.

Ok, now I'm going to read the rest of this thread.

This thread and it's replies are a perfect example of an overly politically correct mentality which has run amok in our modern society. Everyone wants to feel good about themselves, they'd rather not face reality so they side step various issues by calling opposing views to it 'whatever-phobic', racist or ignorant.

Would reply more but going to eat.

I have been attracted to the same sex since I was a kid - 6 or 7 years old. Obviously I wasnt old enough to be making my mind up or choosing my sexuality back then. I knew beyond a doubt that I was gay from around the age of 11 or 12. It was nothing I chose. It has been a part of me for as long as I can remember.

I was born different for what ever reasons. Maybe not all gay people are born this way, but I know I was. Im sure there are hundreds of millions of others out there that can relate to and agree with this.

Originally posted by Evansr
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

Could you please state your proof on this.

I've studied the subject and although there are, undoubtedly, passages in the bible that call homosexuality an abomination the best known being Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." but you have to understand the historical context in which it was written, if you do not, the rest of the rules also still apply (you can't pick only the ones that you agree with

) and then you end up with things like .. Leviticus 19:19 "thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee." or Leviticus 19:26 " Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times. "
And many other examples that i'm sure you know.

You could also mention Sodoma and Gomorra, well, it is my honest opinion that it was about the poor attitude that the citizens developed, the egocentricity and a poor attitude against travelers and foreigners. It was the law that they had to take everyone in, yes strangers, entertain them.

The part refering to the sex between the men, where they said they would "rape" the strangers is about anal sex in itself.
You see, in that time rape was usual and even soldiers did it to enemies after defeating them, it was a form of humiliating another man.

en.wikipedia.org...

This one is about war rape.

www.heroichomosex.org...

This one is about the practice of rape in ancient times and it's use.

So, tell me again about that "my lord is against it" thing

All the old laws still apply. God is unchanging. The old laws were a foreshadowing of future events to come after Christ's crucifixtion even into our time. Jesus didn't abolish the old law, he just fulfilled it. People often think of his "fulfilling" the old to mean he did away with it and this is false, if that were the case you could murder, steal, and lie with impunity and without fear of repercussion and this is not what he wanted. What fulfilling the law meant, was he manifested the laws into himself, him being the living word, the bible made flesh and he broke the chains of eternal death, the price you paid for violating even the smallest of these laws.

Matthew 12:1-8

1At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn and to eat.
2But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
3But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
4How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
5Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
6But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
7But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
8For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

And as seen in Isaiah 58 he desires mercy and compassion above sacrifice. He wanted it in the old testament and nothing changed in the new. Before Jesus came and before the mosaic laws it was faith in Yah that saved you and keeping his laws, the very same ones he taught Enoch the prophet king and that Enoch taught the other sons of Adam.

Leviticus 19:19 "thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee." or Leviticus 19:26 " Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times. "

These verses refer to spirituality, you cannot be of God and Satan both, you have to pick one or the other. Lev. 19:26 refers to practices of witchcraft, which inludes consuming blood, using spells and astrology which is forbidden as astrology is the belief that the stars dictate your destiny and life as opposed to God (Astrology is basically like beliving in your horoscope, you live by that instead of living by God and was punishable by death in the tradition of men).

Sodom and Gomorah was a morality issue. It wasn't just men they were wanting to rape but angels and possibly Christ in his proto-form. Those laws were set at the foundation of the world, not at Mt Sinai after Egypt, but from the very beginning.

Originally posted by DanielET
I have been attracted to the same sex since I was a kid - 6 or 7 years old. Obviously I wasnt old enough to be making my mind up or choosing my sexuality back then. I knew beyond a doubt that I was gay from around the age of 11 or 12. It was nothing I chose. It has been a part of me for as long as I can remember.

I was born different for what ever reasons. Maybe not all gay people are born this way, but I know I was. Im sure there are many others out there that can relate to and agree with this.

It was exactly the same for me but there's just no telling these religious loonballs who have no experience of it, have NO idea what they're talking about yet still think they can pontificate and make declarations based on their own prejudice.

I was born gay - if any of you want to try to prove otherwise, go right ahead (and make it good).

reply to post by Amadeo

I was born gay - if any of you want to try to prove otherwise, go right ahead (and make it good).

Right on!

Could not have said it better...."myself".....