Can We ALL Agree the GM Chevy Volt is a Flop?

reply to post by aaa2500


This thread is about the Chevy Volt.

The batteries are not ready for prime time yet.

Wait 5 years and try again. In the meantime, the stop trying to sell a car - nobody - wants

to buy.

It sounds like you had good intentions BUT that's not good enough.

Look at the current sales of the Chevy Volt. It's a complete failure.

Wake up.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by aaa2500

 

This thread is about the Chevy Volt.

The batteries are not ready for prime time yet.

Every major manufacturer has experienced fires in one or more car models in the last decade, so why is the Volt singled out?

Fires in petrol cars generally happen both spontaneously and in accidents, in the Volt it happened in cars that were severely damaged in a crash test and had been stored on a lot for 3 weeks.

Scenario 1) you are in a crash, the doors are jammed, the car catches fire and you get roasted to death.

Scenario 2) you are in a crash, the doors are jammed, you are cut free from the car and goes to the hospital, the car catches fire 3 weeks later on a lot somewhere.

In scenario 1 you are dead, in scenario 2 you are alive. I prefer scenario 2.

Wait 5 years and try again. In the meantime, the stop trying to sell a car - nobody - wants

Nobody wants it because petrol cars are too cheap. When you buy a petrol car, you only pay for the cost of the car, not for the damage it does to living beings and the environment after you buy it.

That is what many european countries have realized, and why there are registration fees of upto 180 percent on cars in some countries. Add to that very high taxes on petrol and electric cars being exempt from these taxes because of the lower impact on the environment.

This makes the petrol car more expensive as the price is now closer to reflecting the actual cost of that car to society. It doesn't actually reflect the FULL cost, but is a closer approximation.

It sounds like you had good intentions BUT that's not good enough.

It is not about good intentions, but about saving money on healthcare costs and stopping the free ride that owners of petrol powered cars are getting.

Look at the current sales of the Chevy Volt. It's a complete failure.

Yes, because petrol cars are entirely too cheap. If you had to pay 3 times as much for your car to account for the externalities, you would be more likely to buy a Volt.

Wake up.

As long as you are not accounting for externalities in your analysis, I would argue that you are the one soundly asleep.

reply to post by aaa2500


No.

The batteries are not powerful enough yet.

Wait 5 years and they might be. Power output will go up and cost will go down by 2017.

In the mean time buy a 2012 Honda Accord.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by aaa2500

 

No.

The batteries are not powerful enough yet.

Wholesale dismissal of the valid points that I made about externalities and pricing by simply saying No.

Perhaps, next time, you should read the post before replying to it.

reply to post by aaa2500


Go buy a Chevy Volt. Good luck.

You will be the only one on the road.

It's a bad design. GM blew it.
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FedEx has a great one. -click on images -

They are testing it in London.