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In Ontario Police Did a Major Crack Down on Child Porn Largest in History, Did Police Step Over line

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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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I'd like to agree but.

Words like: Suspected Child Pornography, and Possible IP Downloads.

It doesnt seem all that certain, and the accusation alone can ruin someone's life.

I'd like to know what suspected really is. You would think that the police are at least certain about the laws being broken are before they crack down on people for possibly doing something.

Also possible downloads means -nothing-. People in certain types of forums could be easily tricked into viewing such filth but had no intention of doing so.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:04 PM
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You don't even need to ask what "suspected" means in a country/continent where a 6 year old can be accused of sexual battery...just saying...there are nuts people out there and such people should not be able to make laws...



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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Yes, the laws should be applied in a realistic way. It isn't possible in Canada for a 6 year old to be designated this way. If a child is identified, they would be streamed into something to get them some help.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:17 PM
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They do get a trial, in which the standard of proof is on the prosecution.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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I agree that once one of these sick bastards look up child porn on their computer, their rights go out the window and they should plaster their pictures all over the news and prosecute them to the highest degree the law will allow.

The laws are way too easy on these animals and I for one will happily give up some privacy rights if it means saving these children. It sucks to say that but I feel that way but I am sick and tired of fearing for my children's safety.

It is time to seriously crack down on the POS's!



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:23 PM
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You need to learn to control your own fear. Having your society driven by these people is becoming a norm and it isn't healthy.

I would like to recommned to you a book called, The Gift of Fear and for parents, Protecting the Gift



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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They do get a trial, in which the standard of proof is on the prosecution.


And that is all I would ask.

Some of the posters are saying that they should have no rights if they are guilty.

Which makes little sense to me. How would you know which people you can ignore their rights, until the investigation and prosecution has been done?

We ignore everyone's rights? For the good of us all. For the good of the little children?

That is the slippery slope that will lose you your rights so hard earned by our forefathers. Do not willingly let go of those rights. It will take blood to win them back if at all.
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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Aeons
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You need to learn to control your own fear. Having your society driven by these people is becoming a norm and it isn't healthy.

I would like to recommned to you a book called, The Gift of Fear and for parents, Protecting the Gift



Believe me, I know you are right. I am constantly stressed and filled with anxiety with regards to my children. It has literally distorted my perception and sadly has begun to take the joy out of life. Thanks for the book suggestions.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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You really should do some research on this if you think 9000 can't be doing this. 9000 people is only a drop in the bucket. Also, there is no place that is immune to this. It is worldwide and I am glad the police are taking action. Because of my job, I have to deal with it from time to time and when I get those calls, it is so disturbing ....Most people would be shocked if they knew not only the sheer amount of people downloading this garbage, but the abuse perpetrated upon these children. It is EVERYWHERE and I support anyone taking action against them. Thank you for bringing this up!



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 06:15 PM
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Ah a Police officer on ATS? i salute you however i hope u understand the only reason i made this thread is not because i dont want the police to do this, its like what the other user has stated.




Words like: Suspected Child Pornography, and Possible IP Downloads. It doesnt seem all that certain, and the accusation alone can ruin someone's life. I'd like to know what suspected really is. You would think that the police are at least certain about the laws being broken are before they crack down on people for possibly doing something. Also possible downloads means -nothing-. People in certain types of forums could be easily tricked into viewing such filth but had no intention of doing so.



Suspected Child Pornography, and Possible IP Downloads could mean just about anything of downloading, not just CP files.

I agree what the police have done was smart, however when they start suspecting people that usual ends up pretty badly.

Its wrong to be suspecting people who may have stumbled on such downloads by mistake or by chance.

After that video i wondered, what? are they going to arrest all those people and ask them what have they done? or something like that?


Your welcome, i am glad people are interested in it, its a interesting technology however again i do question it, from where have these users been downloading such files? Tor? P2P? File sharing? or other programs

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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 10:47 PM
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This is nonsense. I won't dispute the fact the law enforcement has made arrests and that children have been saved. What I fail to find here is any information of what methods are being deployed other than showcasing a goofy map with IP addresses. Is this some type of joke ? The video lacks any detail but are we to believe that law enforcement is actively breaking the law by hacking into people's computers. That's more like entrapment never mind the legality of breaking into someone's computer. What this article does show is that law enforcement is well beyond their ability to understand their enemy in this regard.

brill
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