A Possible Connection/Coincidence between Lake Vostok & Holy Scriptures.

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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:22 AM
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Here i will add another few pieces that i feel are relevant.
Something that i certainly didnt realize was the sheer size of the lake that remains below the ice. Here is an image that will put it into perspective. I know that you may be well aware but this is for those like me who didnt.



I would also like to add this link Raiders Of The Lost Lake which is dated as 6 August 2007.
Now if you care to read the link and look at the image here which i would like to mention the area marked as a slightly darker shade of blue above the lake.

That said i would like to ask if it is possible that the particular area is actually, air. An area of the ice that had perhaps melted?




The environment is remarkably similar to the dark and cold ocean below the surface of Jupiter’s ice moon Europa, so the discovery of life in Vostok could have interesting extraterrestrial implications.
That said, many of us which think there could be some sort of disclosure couldnt come at a better time for those wanting to come clean about what they know? This would be a fitting scenario in order to disclose.

Another very important piece to all of this is The Cryobot



Now where is the footage from this or a similar instrument that if i am right in assuming would have most definitely been used in the circumstances.



At present,(2007) a number of researchers are mulling over methods to investigate the lake’s unique ecosystem without defiling its pristine nature. The introduction of any organisms or chemicals from the surface could irreversibly pollute its waters, and there is a small but real possibility that the lake’s alien organisms could be dangerous to humans. To date, the best candidate seems to be the cryobot, a fittingly phallic penetrating probe designed to gingerly work its way into the virgin lake. Its heated tip would melt a channel straight into the ice as it unspools a power and communications line behind it. The melted water would quickly re-freeze behind the cryobot in temperatures which linger around minus 100 degrees Fahrenheit, and once it finally reached the water it would eject a small submersible hydrobot to capture images and take measurements.

That also been said you and i are well aware how far technology has come even in the last couple of years.




Its heated tip would melt a channel straight into the ice as it unspools a power and communications line behind it. The melted water would quickly re-freeze behind the cryobot
Sound familiar rev?

Another important piece that i found contained in this piece is



Though most scientists are proceeding with considerable caution, and some advocate avoiding the lake altogether, there are reports that the Russian researchers intend to restart drilling in order to reach the lake before their rivals.
Now considering the fact that the Russians, Americans, French and British are involved then who is/are the rivals and why would someone be classed as a rival considering rival means

1. a person who is competing for the same object or goal as another, or who tries to equal or outdo another; competitor. 2. a person or thing that is in a position to dispute another's preeminence or superiority: a stadium without a rival. 3. Obsolete . a companion in duty.


Judging by this piece would lead me to think there is currently a free for all, in the who gets there first wins scenario and believe that they just may possibly cut corners in order to be first. What say you?



The Antarctic Treaty of 1961 guarantees all nations the right to conduct non-military scientific study on the continent, therefore little can be done to intervene if the men at Vostok station insist upon proceeding.


This last piece is what concerns me the most in relation to their 20 year focus on the area. 20 years leads me to believe they know exactly what they are looking for, well perhaps maybe not looking for as they have found it, perhaps trying to retrieve may be a more fitting term.



geologists speculate many of these are linked by a network of under-ice rivers, so contaminating just one lake might taint them all beyond repair.




posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:23 AM
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In relation to my post above here Raiders Of the lost Lake

I would be very interested to see any information from the Cryobot or similar instruments.
Here is the link for the NASA article on the Cryobot

Here is the Flash animation of the lakes environment



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:25 AM
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The link i posted above in regard to Raiders of the lost Lake holds more information that i believe sheds a new light to the whole situation. The page this link directs you to is very informative but i would implore you all to look and read the articles at the bottom that are related to Lake Vostok......WOW! is all i can say
yeah and


Hollow earth theorists may have a field day here. Take a look and read this one perhaps.
The Deepest Hole

I have had a quick scope over some of the others and taking this into account and other things i have read imho i would say it would be silly to rule out
1. Hollow Earth Theories
2 Posssibility of a recovery mission other than bacteria

3 Also as i have mentioned before on my other thread that totally makes sense to me is Iridium (link to thread)

But take the following on board here

Iridium ( /ɨˈrɪdiəm/ i-rid-ee-əm) is the chemical element with atomic number 77

Iridium was discovered in 1803 among insoluble impurities in natural platinum. Smithson Tennant, the primary discoverer, named the iridium for the goddess Iris, personification of the rainbow, because of the striking and diverse colors of its salts.

Iridium is found in meteorites with an abundance much higher than its average abundance in the Earth's crust. For this reason the unusually high abundance of iridium in the clay layer at the K–T geologic boundary gave rise to the Alvarez hypothesis that the impact of a massive extraterrestrial object caused the extinction of dinosaurs and many other species 65 million years ago.

Iridium is the most corrosion-resistant metal known:[10] it is not attacked by almost any acid, aqua regia, molten metals or silicates at high temperatures.

Osmium–iridium is used for compass bearings and for balances.

Iridium has been used in the radioisotope thermoelectric generators of unmanned spacecraft such as the Voyager, Viking, Pioneer, Cassini, Galileo, and New Horizons.

And in relation to my previous post on this thread and my own
Here is the link that i posted to this thread Here







Gallery

So is there a possibility that what they are doing in /at Lake vostok is perhaps what i mentioned or is it to get their mits on Iridium, which is valueable in more than one way?



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 10:27 AM
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Jazz,

I have read over your countless links. Some of them I realized 3 sentences in, I had already read it. Your posting the same links. I do not see any connection here. I see allot of coincidences. I understand that you see the connection, but I fail to see it.

In fact, I would say, you are the only one to see the link, or connection. Instead of just saying "read" ... can you just give a paragraph or 2 detailing what made you realize this connection. Just the basics, the things that in your mind, make this a solid connection.

I am definitely willing to admit I was foolish, when presented with something more solid than coincidence.

Just a side note: The last 7 posts (1.5 pages) have been you re-posting information, that you have previously posted. I've heard of bumping, but never seen such a blatant force feed. I hope you can clear this up for me. If not, I will just view this as "one mans fantasy"
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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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In fact, I would say, you are the only one to see the link, or connection. Instead of just saying "read" ... can you just give a paragraph or 2 detailing what made you realize this connection.
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You expect me to summarize this in a paragraph or 2?


Go away and close the door behind you. Fool. 4 years of researching and digging and you expect me to sum it up in a paragraph. And you have the nerve to slate me yet again? Although i keep trying over and over again to show you and others the connections yet when i do you cant be bothered to read what i am posting you just want me to tell you?

Sling your hook mate. Stay clear of my threads there is nothing for your liking contained in anything i will post. May our paths never cross again. Mods where is the ignore button gone?



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 07:08 PM
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Jazz, I love all your posts and this thread was excellent, as well. Keep up the good work, friend. There are lots of us who appreciate your work and will continue to do so.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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Thanks, i'm pleased someone does
I think that you are part of a handful of those that do. Its funny really because all i am trying to do is share what i see. Im damned if i do and damned if i dont.
How would you like for me to share in future posts? I provide links yet people cant be bothered to read and complain there is too many. They complain because of quoted pieces and external text and expect me to sum it up in a paragraph or 2?
That is not possible. By doing so i will then be branded a scaremonger or asked for evidence.


So tell me. How.

I see the connections, i also understand that the connections i make may be sheer coincidence. However i dont believe that to be the case at all.

I believe The Lake Vostok Topic is very relevant and also other events that are taking place globally. All in relation to prophecy.
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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 02:22 PM
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Hello again, Jazz. You know some people just don't get it because maybe they really can't. Others have cognitive dissonance, you know? Somewhere in the back of their heads, they KNOW something's up, but simply refuse to believe it because it will shatter their "reality". They're frustrating to deal with.

But, for sure, do keep up the good work. Plenty of us do "get it".



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 05:26 PM
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Thanks. Im covering a few threads at the moment but i am pleased that im not the only one seeing this.



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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Triumph! After two decades of drilling in most inhospitable place on Earth, Russian scientists return home with barrelful of water from 'alien' lake untouched for 20 million years Triumph ....really?


Drilling successful as scientists break through into lake buried miles under Antarctic ice Scientists confirm breakthrough into buried lake Have raised sample of 40 litres of water Frozen sample will be removed in December in next Antarctic summer 'Like exploring another planet except this one is ours', scientist Lake has had no contact with man-made pollutants or Earthly life forms for millions of years Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... 8


And interestingly

It cited Admiral Karl Dontiz in 1943 saying ‘Germany's submarine fleet is proud that it created an unassailable fortress for the Fuehrer on the other end of the world’, in Antarctica. According to German naval archives, months after the Nazis surrendered to the Allies in April 1945, a U-530 submarine arrived at the South Pole from the Port of Kiel. The crew are rumoured to have constructed a still undiscovered ice cave ‘and supposedly stored several boxes of relics from the Third Reich, including Hitler's secret files’. A later claim was that a U-977 submarine delivered remains of Hitler and Eva Braun to Antarctica in the hope they could be cloned from their DNA. The submariners then went to Argentina to surrender, it was claimed. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... E


Now is it just me or is something seriously not quite right here?



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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Now i know that there are some of you members on ATS who simply dont get me here. But the following posts i make are for those who do.
I hope that you have read all that i have already posted before reading on because at the moment i cant put my finger on it but i have a feeling that there is definitely something more than what they are leading us to believe here.
It all doesnt add up at all.
Now look at it from my point of view here because if i was to go outside and start drilling a hole in my garden that would take me 20 yrs, i would be laughed at and mocked. Unless........unless i had knowledge that when i do get there i will find something that i was led to believe was there. Which because it took 20yrs i would be right in assuming its a lot more than microbes.... Do you see what i am saying here?

I believe that there is something huge about this and yes, i know that i am on the right path with this thread, because i felt the same with my other thread. Ive already posted some interesting connections already in this thread if only you care to read them. Taking those into account and also revelations you should see exactly which direction i am going too.

Now this can go one of 2 ways. Good or F*ing awful. I cannot express how serious i am about this yet rather than plaquing me for answers help me to put it together.

There are a few things that get my attention in regard to the link above and i will add them to my next posts.

I think there is a lot being overlooked here simply because it challenges what we have been educated to believe. We are educated from a young age what is right, wrong, true, false, fact and fiction. I am going to challenge it all.

My theory with this topic brings a few other topics into question and i would like to know of threads that are good and informative in regard to the following:
Hollow Earth Theory
Stargates
Holy Grail
Hitler
Pole Shift
Admiral Byrrd



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 12:36 PM
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Key points from the link from the Daily Mail




The scientists returned 40 litres of water to the surface - water isolated from earthly life forms since before Man existed. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... b

40 Litres in which measure and why 40? 40 litres in one country may not be the same in an other?



The scientists will later remove the frozen sample for analysis in December when the next Antarctic summer comes. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... L

Why? Any particular reason for this?



They have now left the site

Left already? So soon.....this one statement does worry me a little. 20 years smash and grab.



The Russian researchers have insisted the bore would only slightly touch the lake's surface and that a surge in pressure will send the water rushing up the shaft where it will freeze, immediately sealing out the toxic chemicals. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... P

Now if this was true how did they get the 40 litres?



Valery Lukin, the head of Russia's Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute (AARI), which is in charge of the mission, said in Wednesday's statement that his team reached the lake's surface on Sunday. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... 6

They never seem to also mention


Other countries, particularly the United States and Britain, have failed to persuade the Russians not to pierce to the lake until cleaner technologies such as hot-water drilling are available.[51] Though the Russians claim to have improved their operations, they continue to use the same borehole, which has already been filled with kerosene.
(wikipedia)



Lukin has previously compared the Lake Vostok effort to the moon race that the Soviet Union lost to the United States, telling the Russian media he was proud that Russia will be the first this time. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... y

Comparison to the moon race?



'There is no other place on Earth that has been in isolation for more than 20 million years,' said Lev Savatyugin, a researcher with the AARI. 'It's a meeting with the unknown.' Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... 9

I thought they were well aware of what to expect? So they are drilling blind then?




Savatyugin said scientists hope to find primeval bacteria that could expand the human knowledge of the origins of life. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... p

Now this i dont understand because i thought the origins of life stemmed from the big bang and evolution, so what new information do they expect to say? Nothing imho. all a smokescreen imho.



Lake Vostok is 160 miles long and 30 miles across at its widest point, similar in area to Lake Ontario. It lies about 2.4 miles beneath the surface and is the largest in a web of nearly 400 known subglacial lakes in Antarctica. The lake is warmed underneath by geothermal energy. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... W
40 litres obtained from a volume of what? Do you see what i mean here. Go to a lake get a cup full, will it tell you much?



The Russian team reached the lake just before they had to leave at the end of the Antarctic summer season. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... N
What happens that means that the scientists must leave?



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 12:40 PM
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Scientists believe that microbial life may exist in the dark depths of the lake despite its high pressure and constant cold - conditions similar to those expected to be found under the ice crust on Mars, Jupiter's moon Europa and Saturn's move Enceladus. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... b

may????
Scientists believe that microbial life "MAY" exist?



Nice flags in the background?



'In the simplest sense, it can transform the way we think about life,' NASA's chief scientist Waleed Abdalati told the AP by email. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... 5

"It can transform the way we think about life"?? How?



posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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Scientists in other nations hope to follow up this discovery with similar projects. American and British teams are drilling to reach their own subglacial Antarctic lakes, but Bell said those lakes are smaller and younger than Vostok, which is the big scientific prize. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... V

So really they plan on drilling all of the antarctic? What do they know that they are not telling us? Or is it to do with hollow earth. I am sure that somewhere they will hide underground
As above so below?

Are you even aware that other teams are currently trying to reach other lakes? All in an area that is suffering apparently due to climate change?



"It is an important milestone that has been completed and a major achievement for the Russians because they've been working on this for years," Professor Martin Siegert, a leading scientist with the British Antarctic Survey, which is trying to reach another Antarctic subglacial lake, Lake Ellsworth. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... 7


Do you want to know something else? I believe the tensions we see on TV between certain nations is pure propaganda, a smokescreen hiding certain events. Events and projects like Lake Vostok. Why else would they be getting along quite nicely yet they are supposed to be at tension?
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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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This statements simply doesnt make any sense what-so-ever



In the future, Russian researchers plan to explore the lake using an underwater robot equipped with video cameras that would collect water samples and sediments from the bottom of the lake, a project still awaiting the approval of the Antarctic Treaty organization. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... c

Firstly, they allowed the use of kerosene and freon as an aid of getting down there while could cause contamination yet they havent gave the go ahead for an underwater robot which they "PLAN to USE" in the future???
now if any of you read any of my previous posts you will see the bit in relation to the Cryobot which it was said/mentioned in the article of 2007? Hello guy & Gals whats the date? Why not share the footage.
20 years of drilling and space exploration.....hmmmmmm do you really believe that they didnt send down a camera?
Check out this post

To add the following:Cryobot history




In 1973 British scientists in Antarctica performed airborne ice-penetrating radar survey and detected a possible lake.
A Possible lake?



In 1991, the European remote sensing satellite ERS-1 confirmed the 1973 discovery of a large lake below four kilometers of ice, named Lake Vostok.[2] The lake is thought to be uncontaminated. NASA was planning to use a cryobot to explore the lake,[3][4] which is the fifth largest freshwater lake in the world.
Are you thinking what i am?

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posted on Feb, 9 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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And here is a very interesting piece.
European Remote Sensing Satelitte




ERS-1 carried an array of earth-observation instruments that gathered information about the Earth (land, water, ice and atmosphere) using a variety of measurement principles. These included:
RA (Radar Altimeter) is a single frequency nadir-pointing radar altimeter operating in the Ku band.
ATSR-1 (Along-Track Scanning Radiometer) is a 4 channel infrared radiometer and microwave sounder for measuring temperatures at the sea-surface and the top of clouds.
SAR (synthetic aperture radar) operating in C band can detect changes in surface heights with sub-millimeter precision.
Wind Scatterometer used to calculate information on wind speed and direction.
MWR is a Microwave Radiometer used in measuring atmospheric water, as well as providing a correction for the atmospheric water for the altimeter.
To accurately determine its orbit, the satellite included the
PRARE (Precision Range and Range-Rate Equipment) and a Laser Retroreflector. The PRARE was non-operational since launch. The Retroreflector was used for calibrating the Radar Altimeter to within 10 cm.


And here is where i step in and lose you all off because here are some weird connections in relation to ERS1

Ra Ancient Egyptian Sun God




Ra (alternatively spelled Re and properly transliterated as Rꜥ) is the ancient Egyptian sun god. By the Fifth Dynasty he had become a major deity in ancient Egyptian religion, identified primarily with the mid-day sun. The meaning of the name is uncertain, but it is thought that if not a word for 'sun' it may be a variant of or linked to words meaning 'creative power' and 'creator'


Now to the word
Nadir



The nadir (from Arabic: نظير / ALA-LC: naẓīr; meaning "opposite") is the direction pointing directly below a particular location; that is, it is one of two vertical directions at a specified location, orthogonal to a horizontal flat surface there. Since the concept of being below is itself somewhat vague, scientists define the nadir in more rigorous terms. Specifically, in astronomy, geophysics and related sciences (e.g., meteorology), the nadir at a given point is the local vertical direction pointing in the direction of the force of gravity at that location. The direction opposite of the nadir is the zenith.
Nadir also refers to the downward-facing viewing geometry of an orbiting satellite,[1] such as is employed during remote sensing of the atmosphere, as well as when an astronaut faces the Earth while performing an EVA.


This diagram depicts a satellite observing backscattered sunlight in the nadir viewing geometry.
The word is also used figuratively to mean the lowest point of a person's spirits,[2] or the quality of an activity or profession.[3]
The term nadir can also be used to represent the lowest point reached by a celestial body during its apparent orbit around a given point of observation. This can be used to describe the location of the Sun, but it is only technically accurate for one latitude at a time and only possible at the low latitudes. The sun is said to be at the nadir at a location when it is at the zenith at the location's antipode.
As above so........


Ku Band

Scatterometer



A radar scatterometer is designed to determine the normalized radar cross section (sigma-0) of the surface. Scatterometers operate by transmitting a pulse of microwave energy towards the Earth's surface and measuring the reflected energy.
You mean we have another on top of HAARP and the LHC?




In 1991 ESA launched the European Remote-Sensing Satellite ERS-1 Advanced Microwave Instrument (AMI) scatterometer,[3] followed by the ERS-2 AMI scatterometer in 1995. Both AMI fan-beam systems operated at C-band (5.6 GHz). In 1996 NASA launched the NASA Scatterometer (NSCAT),[4] a Ku-band fan-beam system.[5] NASA launched the first scanning scatterometer, known as 'SeaWinds', on QuikSCAT in 1999. It operated at Ku-band. A second SeaWinds instrument was flown on the NASDA ADEOS-2 in 1993. ESA launched the first C-band ASCAT in 2007.
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posted on Feb, 10 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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here is a report from a not-so-mainstream media

strangetimes.com...


it reports in part:


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the surface of the lower 70 cm of the ice core was glazed, as if it were submerged to water just before recovery. No ducts or capillaries in the ice core body were visually observed at this. Exactly this contact with the water lens in the borehole was erroneously interpreted by some mass media as a real penetration to the lake water layer.



Indicating that whatever water was in the bore hole at that time - yes - it likely came from the lake, still the drill itself had not penetrated the lake's surface water - yet.



so the 5th of Feb did not bore directly into the lake water, they purposely drilled on the edge of the lake....
wonder what was the reasoning for that?



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 04:08 AM
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In relation to your link. If you look at the image you can clearly see that they neednt have drilled into the lake at all. On the image in your link you can see that the ice(darker shade of blue) above the lake that travels to the right would actually contain microbes etc that would have been present in the lake, Because if i am right in assuming that , that particular part of the ice either came from/ had contact with the lake.

I hate to bang on and keep going over the same ground here but i feel that we are being "HAD" here. Something just doesnt add up at all.



posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 04:32 AM
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I am sorry but this is starting to sound really weird to me now because things are really odd here.

So bearing in mind the Russians have spent 20 years drilling through the ice to reach lake Vostok and that what they hope to find will be of massive benefit and shed light on so many things. You would think that any samples would be taken to laboratories for further analysis, and that a secure and safe/contained environment will be used to keep the ice free from contamination.

Now check this out because if this doesnt raise eyebrows or trigger questions from you all nothing will.
Lake Vostok water Given to Putin




(AP) MOSCOW - Prime Minister Vladimir Putin on Friday praised the Russian scientists who have reached a gigantic freshwater lake in Antarctica hidden under more than two miles of ice, a pristine body of water that may hold life from the distant past. On national television, Russia's natural resources minister gave Putin a canister of water from melted ice at the bottom of the boreshaft near the surface of Lake Vostok. The footage appeared aimed at showing Russia's scientific prowess and helping Putin's bid to reclaim the presidency in March's election. Putin hailed the discovery of Lake Vostok as a "great event" and said the research team members will receive national awards.


Now does anyone else find this strange?

Sample of hidden Antarctic Lake presented




On Friday, Trutnev arrived at a meeting with Putin and delivered a flask of water bearing a label reading "Lake Vostok, more than million years old, depth 3,769.3 meters, 5.12.11, Antarctic." Read more: www.upi.com...


Can someone tell me why the date on the flask is wrong?
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posted on Feb, 11 2012 @ 04:49 AM
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Here are a couple of recent videos posted on youtube.
British scientist disperses rumours

Aliens and Hitler???


This is really eye catching because it could actually be negligence on a huge scale.
Putin given pre-historic water




Pre-historic water for the PM It is the first sample of water and it has not yet been analyzed, the minister said. Trutnev said the water could be older than 1 million years. However, according to some experts, it may be from 1 million to 30 million years old. Putin asked Trutnev whether he drank the water, to which the minister admitted that he had not. “It would be interesting: the dinosaurs drank it and so did Trutnev,” joked the prime minister.





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