Communism, Socialism, Anti-Capitalism: A NEW AGE RELIGION

Having read about peoples minds closing to capitalism, on these very boards...
Having read about communism, and socialism used in the context of communism on these very boards...
Having read the pipe dreams of a perfect and untried (yeah right) communist UTOPIA STATE....

I have come to the conclusion, that the idea of communism, socialism, anti-capitalism, is nothing more the a form of NEW AGE RELIGION:

Of course they are all hypocrites.
They use and engage the tools of CAPITALISM, embracing technology, yet spew and preach HATRED to TECHNOLOGY, CREATIVE THINKING, FREE WILL and ENTERPRISE.
A message to these pipe dreamers: CHANGE BEGINS WITH YOU!
For them there can ONLY BE 1 OWNER, aka 1 GOD: THE STATE!
What IDIOCITY!

Sure companies can be wrong, can manipulate, etc,
BUT with ONLY STATE OWNERSHIP, COLLECTIVE OWNERSHIP, it will be much worse.
THIS IS PROVEN!
Anyway, most of the modern world problems, are the child of the bastardization of the basics of LIBERTY, FREEDOM, and PURSUT OF HAPPINESS.
Meddling and regulation and free healthcare and such, are just the very ideas of communism.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH!
THIS will NOT WORK LONG TERM!
Why should anyone pay for the RECKLESNESS OF OTHERS?
This will lead to more regulation and the state controlling your BODY, MIND!
You cannot get more then what you pay, only by being subsidized, a very COMMUNIST IDEA.

Communism is the spreading the POORNESS evenly.
Freedom is spreading the wealth unevenly.
Within the confines of democracy wealth CAN be spread more evenly.
But COMMUNISM IS NOT THE WAY.
Forced change NEVER WORKS.
TOP DOWN approaches kill creativity, competition and free thinking!


For them GOD, is the GOLDEN AGE, aka THE WORKERS PARADISE.
For them GOD, is not respecting FREEDOM, LIBERTY, but forcing the views of a FRINGE, BRAINWASHED MAJORITY onto ALL.
For them WE SHOULD HAVE NO FREE WILL, ONLY obedience to the state, their false ideology and GOD demands so.

From this naive world view workers paradise aka (is equal to) heaven, a form of an ORIGINAL SINLESS STATE, a GOLDEN AGE.
They BLAME all SINS, EVIL on capitalists, SO ALL SINS are capitalism.
What DOGMA they have.
What TRASH!
WHAT LAZY THINKING!
THEY CORRUPT NATURE (free will, creativity, choice, freedom), they denounce the EARTH (rationalism, skepticism, and free choice, but metaphorically the EARTH Is a free, unburdened system, nor ruled over by a GRANNY), in effect they DENY HUMAN NATURE.
Beware of false GODS!
Communism, socialism, and the pipe dreams are ALL FALSE GODS.

All those in favor, star and flag!

Lets EDUCATE these pipe dreamers, to see, they have been duped into the religion of COMMUNISM.
Fight THE GOOD fight!
Don't let OUR GRANDCHILDREN BE SLAVES TO FALSE GODS AND IDEOLOGIES!ű

What NEXT?
UFOS destroying CAPITALISM?
GOD destroying CAPITALISM!

WAKE UP!
Our freedom is BEING INTELLECTUALLY RAPED BY WEAK MINDS!

reply to post by BBalazs

TextOf course they are all hypocrites. They use and engage the tools of CAPITALISM, embracing technology, yet spew and preach HATRED to TECHNOLOGY, CREATIVE THINKING, FREE WILL and ENTERPRISE.

Socialist's are not Luddite's.

reply to post by theubermensch


They claim NOT TO BE, but they are.
IT IS A PANDORAS BOX!
INOVATION NEED creativity and freedom to thrive!
Needs choices.
With 1 STATE, there IS NO SUCH CHOICE.
A man should due free to benefit from the pursuits of his intellectual and scientific endeavors!
THEY ARE NOT COMMON PROPERTY!
1 STATE thinking KILLS INNOVATION!

TARGET THE BAD COMPANIES, the bad regulation. Target the evil. CHAGE YOURSELF FIRST.
GET A SET OF THINKING SKILLS!

I don't see where you are going with this...

Communism, socialism, anti-capitalism etc, don't rely of the belief of a deity and don't require faith to work... how did you manage to get religion in there?

Other than that, anti-capitalism isn't about scrapping technological advancement or destroying technology at all... if you think about it hard, the current capitalist system with it's patent encumbered intellectual property laws designed to stop inventors from coming up with new things.... THAT is destroying technological advancement and innovation.

For instance, patent troll companies who come up with "inventions" on paper, but never bother or intend to actually build a physical item from that idea... these people patent such things in the event someone comes out with an invention matching their design. The item gets abolished from the market for "patent infringement" and the troll gets a wad of cash for doing absolutely nothing.

Capitalism is just a system that benefits the greedy and people who are born into wealth by chance. In my view, of any of the things you mentioned... capitalism is the only "religion". At face value people who are proud to abuse the capitalist system for their own gain and let others suffer probably see themselves as some kind of powerful being and assume everyone else should bow down to them.

Don't go so far to assume anything but capitalism is bad. There are extremes to everything.... it's possible to have a communist/socialist style society without some of the drawbacks that some people seem to be frightened of.

reply to post by BBalazs

TextCHAGE YOURSELF FIRST.

Huh?

reply to post by theubermensch

That is my suggestion for commies.
If they want change, start with yourself.
Start with attaining thinking skills.
Not to you in specific, but in a general.
I would assume by your logo, you maybe an anarchist?
No beef with anarchocapitalists.

reply to post by InsideYourMind


WRONG!
FIRST LINE.

Communism, socialism, anti-capitalism etc, don't rely of the belief of a deity and don't require faith to work... how did you manage to get religion in there?

MANY RELIGIONS DONT HAVE A DIETY: BUDDHISM? TAOSIM.
WHAT DEFINES THEM IS DOGMA.
SAME AS THE COMMIES, good bad, etc.
AND THEIR FAITH is based on an unattainable, undemonstrated, unmodedelled FAITH BASED interpretation of WORKERS PARADISE aka HEAVEN.
Do you actually read?
Or do you just spew out your JUDGEMENTS?

Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by theubermensch

 

That is my suggestion for commies.
If they want change, start with yourself.
Start with attaining thinking skills.
Not to you in specific, but in a general.
I would assume by your logo, you maybe an anarchist?
No beef with anarchocapitalists.

I am ubermensch.

And my advice is to go with something short that packs a punch. Most people wont read all that unless you break it up into three parts.

YELLING DOESN'T MAKE YOU MORE RIGHT!



I had a hard time reading you're post, but form the jest of it you think Isms(paralytically the collectivism's) are being followed the same zeal as a religion. Well same can be said with you and you're love for Capitalism. I'm just saying, you're calling the kettle black.

reply to post by Mcupobob


I do not love capitalism.
It is like the air.
It is the context of trade.
Nothing to love about it.
It how trade works, unless you want to barter for everything.
Otherwise, and other definitions and it becomes a long winded philosophy that has been proven wrong on all levels.
I value freedom.
maybe commies should get their own country, and freedom loving people get their own too.

reply to post by theubermensch


I agree.
I am not very good and conveying my ideas, although I am developing,
people are so emotionally attached to words, they miss the point entirely many times.
however, its all there. if you read it, you can understand.
perhaps you can help or point me in a direction to rephrase.
as an ubermensch, you should be somewhat concerned that your or at the very least, your offsprings days are numbered. they will no longer have the choice to be ubermensch if this pipe dream continues. they will be assigned their roles. any creativity you got, will form the part of the collective. surely you don't want this for your children?

Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by theubermensch

 

I agree.
I am not very good and conveying my ideas, so they are easy to understand.
however, its all there.
perhaps you can help or point me in a direction to rephrase.
as an ubermensch, you should be somewhat concerned that your or at the very least, your offsprings days are numbered. they will no longer have the choice to be ubermensch if this pipe dream continues.

I didnt say that. I think you convey them fine. Just think if you broke it up it would be more appealing to members that are not very political.

And yes I agree. The pipe dream that is capitalism must end.

reply to post by theubermensch


capitalism is not a pipe dream, it is the free exchange of goods.
There is NOTHING dogmatic or RELIGION LIKE ABOUT IT.
Its called commerce by another name.
So COMMERCIALISM.
its a shame you call yourself ubermensch.
you will be the first the be made an example of your commie comrades, I would assume.
They are pretty good AT Politics of personal interests and vendettas.
Keep believing!

Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by theubermensch

 

capitalism is not a pipe dream, it is the free exchange of goods.
There is NOTHING dogmatic or RELIGION LIKE ABOUT IT.
Its called commerce by another name.
So COMMERCIALISM.
its a shame you call yourself ubermensch.
you will be the first the be made an example of your commie comrades, I would assume.
They are pretty good AT Politics of personal interests and vendettas.
Keep believing!

hmm.

You deserve an encouragement award I think

Now you know who the Luddites were anyway. Im glad I could help. Its good to see a youngster take an interest in politics. I hope you keep reading hey.

reply to post by theubermensch

It wrong to see an apparent anarchist ? assign himself to the wrong side.
What a terrible loss.
What lack of critical thinking skills.
KEEP SPREADING THE PLATO THRUTH VIRUS.
WANT TO ACHIVE YOUR GOALS?
Play politics, USE TO URTHER your agenda.
But the commies?
Come on man...
Whats wrong with you?
This is not about republican, democratic, thats your hallucination of this thread.
Maybe 1o people understand the concept of anarchy.
And the path there leads through FREEDOM, not STATE intervention.
So keep reading and believing young one.
Keep the ludite revolution alive my friend.
Keep using the internet and technology to destroy the companies you use.
Keep attacking the wrong targets.
Keep doing so.
One day.
You will learn.

Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by theubermensch

 

It wrong to see an apparent anarchist ? assign himself to the wrong side.
What a terrible loss.
What lack of critical thinking skills.
KEEP SPREADING THE PLATO THRUTH VIRUS.
WANT TO ACHIVE YOUR GOALS?
Play politics, USE TO URTHER your agenda.
But the commies?
Come on man...
Whats wrong with you?
This is not about republican, democratic, thats your hallucination of this thread.
Maybe 1o people understand the concept of anarchy.
And the path there leads through FREEDOM, not STATE intervention.
So keep reading and believing young one.
Keep the ludite revolution alive my friend.
Keep using the internet and technology to destroy the companies you use.
Keep attacking the wrong targets.
Keep doing so.
One day.
You will learn.

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edit on 4-2-2012 by BBalazs because: (no reason given)

Ha!

I think I will give your flag back.

reply to post by BBalazs


why do you think in a world where everyone has the means for basic survival, all mans knowledge and innovation will be lost.... think of how many Einstein's and edisons are starving every minute all over the world..

you dont care about the progression of humanity,,, you care about excess luxury for a minority and the privledge of looking down on others... gloat.


cooperation is more efficient then competition every time.... now competition is important between bros, to enhance skills, and admire ability, to seek to top, but your bros, shouldnt be out to tear each others throats.

Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by InsideYourMind

 

WRONG!
FIRST LINE.

Communism, socialism, anti-capitalism etc, don't rely of the belief of a deity and don't require faith to work... how did you manage to get religion in there?

MANY RELIGIONS DONT HAVE A DIETY: BUDDHISM? TAOSIM.
WHAT DEFINES THEM IS DOGMA.
SAME AS THE COMMIES, good bad, etc.
AND THEIR FAITH is based on an unattainable, undemonstrated, unmodedelled FAITH BASED interpretation of WORKERS PARADISE aka HEAVEN.
Do you actually read?
Or do you just spew out your JUDGEMENTS?

edit on 4-2-2012 by BBalazs because: (no reason given)

Explain what is "religious" about communism or socialism please. I am aware that there are religions without diety's in which is why i also stated faith. Religion cannot exist as a worshipping practice without either faith or a diety.

What are people worshipping in communism or socialism?

Does it mean that because i tend to see capitalism as some kind of infectious disease to the world economy, that i somewhat have put faith into a system of beliefs?

You are confusing religion with a economic system.

You has just aswell say that bank's are your place of worship within capitalism.