Judge: Obama eligible to be Georgia candidate

Originally posted by Shagga
Whether Obama is a natural born citizen or not, I dont believe that someone should be allowed to run for President with this much controversy. Not to mention he has shown time and time again that he has no intentions of following what lies he spews, hes the same as every other puppet in office which is why I cant understand for the life of me why so many people defend him.. He is making life much worse for me and my family, I wish Americans were able to think for themselves but unfortunately only a few Americans can.

You honestly don't think he should be able to run because people bring up false allegations against him???

And please...tell me how Obama has made your familes life much worse? I bet you don't even know that Obama gave you a tax break...did you?

Originally posted by Dark Ghost


I've done the research. Something about the guy's past does not sit right with me. There is a lot of mystery surrounding his past.

There is a lot of mystery surrounding the past of anyone you do not know personally and often even then. More specific to the topic you bring up a salient point.

I have done the research and all the "mystery" that comes up in birther threads is nonexistent. It is made up stuff like "no one remembers him from school" when it never takes a page or two before we are presented with all the people that remember him from school. So that mystery is gone, right? No. Birthers just ignore those posts or excuse those people as paid shills.

But where is there evidence that NO ONE remembers him from school or that these people are lying?

There is "mystery" about how he went to Indonesia at a time when Americans were banned from going there.
It is usually very quickly then pointed out that there was no ban. There was a travel advisory but no ban.
How do birthers respond? Usually by just ignoring that and reclaiming there is a mystery about how he went there.

There is a mystery about he was indoctrinated into his father (that he never met) Kenyan anti-colonialism from nowhere and his stepdad's Muslimality from attending Christian schools and proves there is mystery about his education and religious affiliation all while belonging to a Christian church that is too radical and certainly not Muslim but he is fully indoctrinated into that too.

Blah blah.

Where are the legitimate birther mysteries?

So you knew of Mr. Obama before he ran for president? May I ask how you knew of him? (I live in Australia so to be fair I only heard of him when he ran for president.)

Since 1997, being a state senator his name had come up. It stands out a bit, you know? But when he joined the US senate in 2005, I began to hear more about this "rising star" as he was dubbed in some circles and had seen him speak a few times before he ever got into any presidential race.

I understand that even Americans never heard of him but I asked a girl I know yesterday to name the CURRENT vice president and she couldn't. Most of the really irrationally angry people I know are dangerously ignorant of the world they live in.

I have done some reading about Mr. Obama, mostly from balanced/neutral sources. Yes you can say that about Ron Paul and he too should be required to show proof of his eligibility to be president.

But you are not going to ask for it, are you? Seen any threads on that? People wonder why the race card gets played all while no one questioned any of the white guys before and no one is questioning any of the white guys now, not even the one that has grandfather who fled the US to become a Mexican citizen in order to escape...religious persecution; First from the nation and then by the church. Oh the irony there. But he is Anglo so...none of that is suspicious at all.

If this conspiracy has any merit, which I believe it might, then it is possible that judges are either bought off or threatened not to let it escalate any further.

Alll those judges?
Do you think it is at all possible those judges just understand these things better than the typical person? Do you know how uninformed Americans are?

reply to post by Thermo Klein


Ummm. Hate to burst your bubble , but my SS number does not show up in the state I was born in either. And I KNOW I was born there so.........

reply to post by OutKast Searcher



Not so fast . . .

1. Obama had serious irregularities in his entry into the Senate from the . . . drum roll . . . Chicago area--the hotspot of political corruption in the USA from before JFK took advantage of it.

2. There are at least half a dozen flags on the birth issue. And one doesn't spend $2 million covering up wonderful news and information.

3. The judge involved in the Georgia case seems to be a very mysterious person . . . with EXTREMELY LITTLE info of him available . . . yet some mysterious connections to an Obama campaign donor as well as an Obama house--and a house in Conneticut--the state of Obama's stolen/fraudulent social security number and . . . again . . . Chigao . . . political . . . uhhhh circles.

The truth will out, eventually.

I don't think it will matter.

Obama was SElected by the globalist oligarchy to destroy the USA within an micrometer of it's life and he's very diligent at that task.

He's now getting 100,000 of our troops overseas just in time to be unavailable to help defend CONUS from Russian and Chinese attack after Iran is attacked.

In my worst nightmare's I'd have had a hard time imagining a worse destroyer of the Republic of the United States and our way of life than Marxist, globalist, socialist, Islamist, flag-hating, USA hating Obama.

That he was so easily sold to so many clueless voters is another testimony to the globalists control of their media as well as how effective their mass brainwashing and mass mind-control techniques have become.

By the time the bulk of the Obama psychophants have awakened to how utterly thoroughly evil and destructive he is, there won't even be much time or option left for wailing about it.

He will have insured that worse things to wail about have begun to fall in our laps in rapid sequence.

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Originally posted by BO XIAN
1. Obama had serious irregularities in his entry into the Senate

Care to list these "irregularities", or have you "forgotten" them?

2. There are at least half a dozen flags on the birth issue

So list 5 then - if you can....

And one doesn't spend $2 million covering up wonderful news and information.

nor has Obama spent money covering up - care to detail exactly how he covered things up by spending money, and show exactly where he spent $2million covering things up....

3. The judge involved in the Georgia case seems to be a very mysterious person

Why do you think that?

yet some mysterious connections to an Obama campaign donor as well as an Obama house--and a house in Conneticut

care to list these so called "connections"....?

the state of Obama's stolen/fraudulent social security number

Except Obama has not got a stolen/fraudulent SSN - please prove that it is stolen/fraudulent - and I do not mean "prove" by posting nonsense from a silly birther site.

The truth will out,

It is out - Obama is the legal president, and birthers have nothing but lies and silly false claims!


snip some rant

reply to post by spoor



Some of your questions are public knowledge for anyone fair-mindedly informed beyond the MSM's propaganda swill. There are many threads on ATS with the documentation.

Obama psychophants will not be persuaded by rooms full of notorized evidence. I don't care to waste my time beating my head against a concrete wall for such folks.

Here's a link that answers many of your questions about the judge and related suspicious stuff:

noiri.blogspot.com...

reply to post by BO XIAN


So in other words...you can't back up any of your claims.

Got it.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher



Evidently you were not interested in reading the evidence at that link. It answered several of the other poster's questions.
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There's tons of evidence in such matters.

I do not feel any compulsion to 'force feed the duck' as the Chinese idiom goes.

Part of me thinks that folks who fail to see Obama as the Marxist traitor imposter that he is . . . deserve what they'll end up getting for his efforts.

Those who are really interested in the truth about him can find it in abundance.

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reply to post by OutKast Searcher



It's fascinating . . .

One of the things I most like about forums is the sort of

back fence

cracker barrel/ country store chat

front porch chat

feel of a lot of exchanges.

Folks just sharing their opinions, perspectives, experiences . . . what they've heard from whomever; what they've read from whomever . . .

Assertions are evaluated in terms of the sources, credibility of the person, logic . . .

how the assertions match up with the listener's own experiences etc.

Sometimes someone will ask, "Where'd you hear that?"

Sadly, on net forums, there's also the

GRAB EM BY THE THROAT AND DEMAND A NOTORIZED SCIENTIFIC STUDY PILE OF PROOFS

mentality that frequently rears its head.

I'm 65 years old. I've been an information hog all my life. I virtually never take notes.

I like sharing what I've heard and read and why I believe what I do and have the perspective I do. I like listening and reading the same from others.

I evaluate accordingly.

No biggy. IF I need sources and the person I'm dialoguing with doesn't have them, no biggy. I look myself. I don't call them an idiot or even imagine that they are lying or being disingenuous or deceptive. Sheesh.

The link on the judge . . .

noiri.blogspot.com...

Has a ton of info--though frustratingly short on substance on issues re information that's most desired.

It's a narrative of a fairly extensive research effort by a reporter type person, IIRC.

Given all the other stuff I've read about Obama, the stuff about the Judge fits like a hand in a glove.

Folks can be derisive if they wish. I think that's an ignorant perspective to take.

It's NOT usual for such a Judge to have such little information available. It's as though his life and history has been intelligence agency cleaned.

And for him to rule on this issue at this critical point . . . and to kind of be a sort of non-person in terms of the historical record . . . SHOULD concern any thinking person.

However, i realize that those who are willfully blind will not be persuaded by much of anything.

And they will deserve the rude awakening scheduled for them . . . eventually.

Indeed this issue is fascinating. How claims and accusations are thrown around and only sourced by "a reporter type" blog post that is nothing but some idiots rant. How conviniently one can throw words and accusations and just ignore them in the end. Fascinating.

reply to post by PsykoOps



We all are tasked with being . . . as George Kelly articulated with his role construct theory . . . little scientists.

Here's the online tool for analyzing such construct systems, role constructs etc.

repgrid.com...

We go forth each day . . . or at least hopefully become conscious each day . . . and hypothesize about what we perceive.

We make predictions based on what we perceive and our hypotheses.

We know from Kelly's work that those with narrow rigid construct systems do not predict very well and therefore, do not perform optimally nor are their life experiences the most successful and fulfilling.

We also know from his work that those with 'totally' flexible, permeable as a sieve construct systems really do not predict very well and probably have even less optimum life experiences that are less successful and less fulfilling.

Optimum functioning and fulfillment occurs out of construct systems which are firm but not narrow, rigid and brittle. They have a solid foundation, a solid basic structure but room for adjustment; for sponteneity; creativity and new perspectives on reality.

I have yet to read a naysayer clammoring for, !DEMANDING! proofs in triplicate

which did NOT come across as a very prissy, narrow, rigid, brittle sort of person with a similar construct system.

That's rather sad.

SOME healthy skepticism is usually warranted.

Chronic, fierce, narrow, rigid skepticism most likely correlates with a narrow, brittle, rigid construct system.

Not good.

Our current state in this era is one of enormous complexity.

The oligarchy has controlled the MSM for at least . . . let me check . . . since 1915:

twoday.net...

22. "In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. "An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers." U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917

It is this same machine which chose Obama as a youth; reared him carefully with Marxist values; groomed him under the corrupt Chicago political umbrella; sanitized his birth and other history at great cost (yes Perkins Coie received on the order of $2,000,000 documented payments to fight such in court--look it up); shoehorned him through Ivy League schools; hid his school records; etc. etc. etc. all to install him as the selected Destroyer in Chief to finish shredding the economy of the planet as well as the U.S. Constitution etc. etc. etc.

And, now they are working in concert with their installed club of Judges to insure that he is not thrown out prematurely.

This is all fairly elementary.

Is there enough evidence to convict in a fair court. Probably 5-10 times over enough.

However, it won't happen. They will insure that.

I've heard today that Newt is supposedly going to go 3rd party. Ahhhhhhhhh the Ross Perot gambit. Sounds like they have decided to insure that the Destroyer in Chief stays in another term.

However, if, as also seems somewhat clear . . . they trigger WW3 before the SElection . . . that could be very interesting. What would they do with a Presidential SElection amidst China and Russia attacking; martial law; devastation shore to shore . . . We may well see.

Anyway . . . I think the SElections are an utter farce and have been for many decades.

Nevertheless, the idea that Obama is any kind of constructive leader of the Republic of the USA is . . . hideously absurd hyperbole of the worst order. As time will tell.

The evidence is lying around in the open all over the place. However, it takes eyes to see and ears to hear to realize and digest it.

The Judge this thread is about is merely playing his assigned role. His own history has evidently been sanitized even more than Obama's. Convenient.

reply to post by BO XIAN


You are using blogs as your sources...that is just as valid as using a forum post as your source.

I think what is going on is that you WANT to believe something...so any crack pot blog with crazy accusations against Obama and you eat them up without question.

Unfortunately...this is how the birther movement started and why it will continue. You want to hate Obama...and you will continue to try to spread false information in hopes others will hate him too.

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

 

Evidently you were not interested in reading the evidence at that link. It answered several of the other poster's questions.

It only addressed one. The one about the judge's mysterious connections. That is one question and the source is a blog. Have anything legit?
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There's tons of evidence in such matters.

Where?

I do not feel any compulsion to 'force feed the duck' as the Chinese idiom goes.

Because you know you cannot back up your claims, you can only repeat them.

Part of me thinks that folks who fail to see Obama as the Marxist traitor imposter that he is . . . deserve what they'll end up getting for his efforts.

Which is funny since we all end up still having the same president thus getting the same thing in the end.

Those who are really interested in the truth about him can find it in abundance.

That is true and yet here you are posting lies with no reason to believe any of them. Why is that?


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reply to post by OutKast Searcher



NOPE.

A lot of very diligent researchers and detectives have spent many hundreds of hours of dogged work ferreting out the facts about the Destroyer in Chief.

AND

It's congruent with his own public record.

He has implicated himself repeatedly in his own words in public speeches and writings that are shockingly congruent with the ugly stuff the researchers and detectives have dug up.

Sounds to me like

YOU are determined to construe reality according to YOUR BELIEFS.

reply to post by Still



It's sad that you don't seem able to discern or detect solid info about the judge at that link.

Given that . . . I have absolutely no need to waste any further time showing you any kind of quality evidence.

Even the best evidence takes eyes to see and ears to hear.

Originally posted by BO XIAN
The Judge this thread is about is merely playing his assigned role.

Will the silly birthers make the same silly claims about all the judges is all the states when Obama is declared to be on the ballot everywhere?

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by Still

 

It's sad that you don't seem able to discern or detect solid info about the judge at that link.

It is sad that you narrow down the items on that list to just this one and then lean on it like a crutch. That judge did not exist in your birther fantasy this time last year so it is kind of hard to pin this all on him.

Given that . . . I have absolutely no need to waste any further time showing you any kind of quality evidence.

Actually that would be constructive. Taking the time to write a post about how you will not back up your claims seems like a bigger waist to me.
I am glad you feel you have no need to convince anyone. That means you have accepted reality and know that Obama is president no matter how much you stomp your blog feet.

You do realize that birthers are the ones that want reality to change, right? Do you think anyone that is not a birther has any need to defend Obama on this?

Even the best evidence takes eyes to see and ears to hear.

Until you come up with any evidence none of that really matters.

Seems like this crap is never going to end.

Also seems like the quantity of false claims, drummed up 'anomalies' and racist speculation is promoted as evidence in itself.

Quantity is irrelevant. The number times a birther demonstrates how to quote mine Obama to support his fantasy is irrelevant.

Post his Kenyan birth certificate, and this time, try to do better than the last time, which was a ridiculous forgery.