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One Million Moms rally at JcPenny's to fire Ellen Degeneres for being GAY!

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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Any way, best wishes to you Annee and everyone else here.


Thank you for the wishes and back at you.

But you are getting way too off topic with your politics in this thread. So I'm not going to respond more then I already have on the politics.


Yah off topic and so was the liberal/conservative quiz which I did not take. Next time I won't bother with the well-wishing.

I'm also glad to know you are in the marxist communist crowd.
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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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No but you asked my age and what's the difference?


I felt manna was mature in age.

However - - It was mostly you I was talking to - - and I wanted to know if we were on the same level.

I don't really think you are in your 20s - - but you might be. I'd guess in your 40s.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Wow, were you referring to the man who taught fisting to teens or to a Communist subversive who supported gay men sodomizing little boys? No wonder this country is in trouble with morals like that. I have no sympathy for people who promote that insane stuff and think it should be promoted to grade school children and that is exactly why I make points like this on this forum.
I frankly don't care any more what you think. You challenged my credibility last night and made demands to know personal stuff about me, then you support people like Jennings and Hay.
I really have nothing further to say other than I'm not worried about your opinion of me.


I am sick to death of the word Moral. Its probably the most over used word ever since Bush took office - - and catered to the Christian Right.

I use the word Ethical as a boycott against the word Moral - - that some Christians think they own and want to dictate everyone's behavior.

As far as gay sex - - you think its all wrong - - so unless they're celibate - - you'd determine it is immoral - - no matter what they did.

Hay's belief in the cultural minority status of homosexuals led him to take a stand against assimilationism. It is because of his belief in assimilationism that he supported MANY groups. One of those MANY groups that he felt fell under this belief was Nabla.

I will not discredit an amazing activist for all the things he accomplished because of one questionable incident.

My mind is not that narrow.


Cultural assimilation is a socio-political response to demographic multi-ethnicity that supports or promotes the assimilation of ethnic minorities into the dominant culture. The term assimilation is often used with regard to immigrants and various ethnic groups who have settled in a new land. New customs and attitudes are acquired through contact and communication. The transfer of customs is not simply a one-way process. Each group of immigrants contributes some of its own cultural traits to its new society. Assimilation usually involves a gradual change and takes place in varying degrees; full assimilation occurs when new members of a society become indistinguishable from older members. en.wikipedia.org...


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One Million Moms rally at JcPenny's to fire Ellen Degeneres for being GAY!

This group is an off shoot of the AFA (American Family Association) - - which is officially labeled as a Hate Group.




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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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Pathetic neurotic freakazoid women! Mind your own damned business, if you don't like it then shop somewhere else. Go wash your laundry and let other people's laundry alone! Nut jobs!



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Annee
 


No but you asked my age and what's the difference?


I felt manna was mature in age.

However - - It was mostly you I was talking to - - and I wanted to know if we were on the same level.

I don't really think you are in your 20s - - but you might be. I'd guess in your 40s.


Right so you posted to her but were talking to me. Yah that makes sense. You stamp your feet and have a hissy fit and demand things from me and you are saying I'm not mature. Why are you still guessing about my age? And why does it still matter to you? You have told me now that you think Marxism and Communism is just fine and you think Jennings (or Hay, Im not sure which) are fine examples of people with a brilliant career while they support sodomy of young boys and indoctrinate grade school children and you still say I'm not mature. Again, all I can say is I don't give a darn what your opinion is, but you are still free to have it.


So you're sick to death of the word moral because it means you have to be moral. I could say the same thing about political correctness.

And there's that Christian bashing again.

Oh and by the way, I never said that I supported their boycott and I never said that Ellen shouldn't be their spokesperson and I never said anything bad about Ellen. I just said that Jennings and Hay are communist subversives. You responded by telling me that Marxism and Communism is fine with you.
I bet if you had to live under communist rule you would crumble like a cookie.
Ask anyone here who has lived under it or come from a communist country. It is naive at best to think it's ok.

What I will say is, let the market forces do what they will. I doubt either side will make that much difference in the long run.

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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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As far as gay sex - - you think its all wrong - - so unless they're celibate - - you'd determine it is immoral - - no matter what they did.


No Annie, what I find offensive is the agenda of indoctrinating the youth. Otherwise, as I already said, let them do as they will but not to the children.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
And there's that Christian bashing again.


I was raised Christian - - and I have every right to have an opinion about it.

"Right Wing Christians" and "some Christians" - - - not ALL Christians.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
No Annie, what I find offensive is the agenda of indoctrinating the youth. Otherwise, as I already said, let them do as they will but not to the children.


Just like NOM and AFA use the children as their excuse.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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Everyone has a right to believe what they believe....I just cannot understand why hatred has any part of ANY belief system.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
And there's that Christian bashing again.


I was raised Christian - - and I have every right to have an opinion about it.

"Right Wing Christians" and "some Christians" - - - not ALL Christians.








ROFLOL

In this thread, when it suited you at the moment, you claimed to have been raised in a meta phyisical home, new age before new age was cool, or something like that and I confronted you that you claimed the christian upbringing in another thread, when it suited you, atm.

Why do you think you deserve to be respected when you lie to suit the discussion?



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by TheRedneck
Oh, dear, and I thought I was done with this thread...

reply to post by Annee

I see much hate in that post Annee... do you hate the restaurant owner who denied her access?



I'm sorry if you interpreted it as hate - - - and that you think maybe its eaten away on me.

That is not the case. I was raised in a metaphysical environment (long before the New Age fad). All experiences are to learn from.

I am simply stating fact as experienced. Making my point that I am indeed focused on the Equal Rights aspect of this subject.

Humans often tend to be ignorant of what they don't know or have not experienced. The restaurant owner protected what was his. Same way the Marriage Rights people think they are protecting an ideology.

Don't think I don't understand the perspective from both sides -- because I do.

However - - forcing an ideology on those who don't want it - - - to deny Equal Rights is unacceptable.





were you raised in a Christian environment or a metaphysical environronment? Which is it today? Or does it matter what post you address and what point you need to make atm?



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 08:26 AM
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Why is that needed so bad in the military then? because you say it like I should know...

And why would gay men shower with women? that makes no sense at all...

And the jokes you made, you hit the nail on the head; Some people see your jokes as insults and that's why this sort of thing continues to go on and on.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
No Annie, what I find offensive is the agenda of indoctrinating the youth. Otherwise, as I already said, let them do as they will but not to the children.


Just like NOM and AFA use the children as their excuse.


I cannot believe how narrow minded and agenda driven you are. Logic,fairness nor intelligence matters when pain disguised as hate is not properly dealt with.

I truly can't see even the staunchest supporters saying that. Please do NOT speak for and of these Parents unless you can prove that each and every one of them are using their children as an excuse!

I guess there's a few people out there who can not wrap their head around parents who feel the need to take a stand for children.
If it's not all about ME, MYSELF and I, it's not a legitimate stance. Pft!
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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 09:51 AM
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We can't integrate schools - - we're doing it for the children.

We can't have purple Teletubbies - - we're doing it for the children.

We can't put rainbow sprinkles on cupcakes - - we're doing it for the children.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by Annee
We can't integrate schools - - we're doing it for the children.

We can't have purple Teletubbies - - we're doing it for the children.

We can't put rainbow sprinkles on cupcakes - - we're doing it for the children.



"The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract."
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

How are you any different than those you speak so venomously against?



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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. . . and another gay teen boy committed suicide the other day.

While society has accepted the girl Tomboy - - - they haven't been so forgiving of the 'Little Glitter Boys". The little boys who like Pink and Purple - - and shiny fabrics with sparkle.

YES! We must protect the children. Our schools must protect the children. Awareness and understanding is essential from primary age on up.

Yes - - I am truly 100% about protecting ALL the children - - - by awareness and acceptance and understanding.

Protecting an ideology belief is about protecting an ideology belief. It is NOT about protecting the children.

And here is another book that should be mandatory in primary grades: "My Princess Boy" - The message of My Princess Boy is that its okay to be who you are. www.myprincessboy.com...



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:39 AM
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Because it can't be posted enough in this thread:


One Million Moms/One Million Dads project One of AFA's (American Family Assc) creations is One Million Moms and One Million Dads, two websites with the goal mobilizing parents to "stop the exploitation of children" by the media. It organizes boycotts and urges activists to send emails to mainstream companies employing advertising, selling products, or advertising on television shows they find offensive. The "One Million" in the titles of the projects appears to be a completely arbitrary number, as it is not based on any actual survey of group members, let alone how many members might be mothers or fathers. en.wikipedia.org...

Labeled a hate group Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), in a 2005 report, stated that the AFA, along with other groups, engaged in hate speech to "help drive the religious right's anti-gay crusade."
Mark Potok of the SPLC determined that the turning point was 2003's Lawrence v. Texas, in which the Supreme Court struck down Texas's anti-sodomy laws. After that, the Christian right spent millions on advertisements, and on pastor briefings organized by activists such as born-again Christian David Lane. Lane helped AFA put constitutional opposite-sex marriage amendments on the ballots of 13 states. In November 2010, the SPLC changed their listing of AFA from a group that used hate speech to the more serious one of being designated a hate group. Potok said that the AFA's "propagation of known falsehoods and demonizing propaganda" was the basis for the change. The AFA was greatly displeased with the designation as a hate group, calling the list "slanderous". In response to the SPLC's announcement, some members of the Christian right "call[ed] on Congress to cut off their funding." J. Matt Barber of The Washington Times said that the SPLC was "marginalizing" themselves by giving the AFA the same hate group designation shared by the Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazis. en.wikipedia.org...



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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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Government doesn't know how to wipe they're rears let along know what's best for our children.

Most parents are responsible and they teach tolerance. Bad things happen and no matter how some people try to spin their reasoning's for kicking parents in the teeth for being responsible parents.... this division and intrusion forced onto parents via ignorant sqeeky wheels and haters... will only create more division.

No one "group" is the ultimate victim.... well, except maybe the tug and pull we see onto the minds of our children, created by control freaks and the government.

It's my opinion that when people are forced to stand on their own two feet without other people or the government standing on top of them, then children and adults both get along much better.

This reminds me of the "nagging" wife who can't keep her nose out of the neighbors business. Many times this behavior results in infidelity or divorce.

To war against parents for having a difference of opinion is the true meaning of a control freak.

To post some very sad and heartbreaking story of a suicide and then to point a finger at another isn't a very smart way to cover bigotry.
The person committing suicide is the one who chose to commit suicide. To blame it on anyone else only piles the bs even higher.

It's time people stop blaming other people for their misery and failures.



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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by sweetliberty
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Government doesn't know how to wipe they're rears let along know what's best for our children.

Most parents are responsible and they teach tolerance. Bad things happen and no matter how some people try to spin their reasoning's for kicking parents in the teeth for being responsible parents.... this division and intrusion forced onto parents via ignorant sqeeky wheels and haters... will only create more division.

No one "group" is the ultimate victim.... well, except maybe the tug and pull we see onto the minds of our children, created by control freaks and the government.

It's my opinion that when people are forced to stand on their own two feet without other people or the government standing on top of them, then children and adults both get along much better.

This reminds me of the "nagging" wife who can't keep her nose out of the neighbors business. Many times this behavior results in infidelity or divorce.

To war against parents for having a difference of opinion is the true meaning of a control freak.










I disagree, it's called fascism.
The nazi kind.

Or maybe the bolshevic kind.



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