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Interesting new ad from Gingrich (using George Soros)

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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 06:06 PM
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The constant assault by the Romney money machine has put Gingrich's campaign into a terminal decline. His polling numbers are now in free-fall after being outspent 9 to 1 in Florida and hit with a torrent of 4969 false attack ads, the inevitable result of which was a crushing defeat at the ballot box by the ignorant masses. Newt is now struggling for political traction and just released this new ad featuring George Soros, which I think is a very powerful piece.

Soros, a liberal billionaire, recently compared Obama and Romney and concluded that in his opinion there are no real differences. In other words, in Soros's judgement Romney will carry out the liberal establishment agenda following almost exactly in Obama's foot steps. Newt then quantifies this by showing some of the Romney's worst quotes and comparing them with Obama's on the same issues, it becomes clear very quickly that there is no real difference between the two men. In one very damning example, Romney vows never to chip away at tough anti-gun laws and says he believes they protect us and provide for our safety.

It is amazing beyond belief that over a million Republican voters so far have chosen a man who's political beliefs align almost completely with Obamas. The most left leaning Republican probably in the history of politics is now being pushed as the nominee, and neither Gingrich, Santorum or Paul have much of a chance of stopping him. So my question is, are the elites growing more blatent by the year in pushing their agenda for the social remodelling of America? What exactly is going on here? And how can so many Republican voters be fooled?

Btw, I am not posting in support of Newt per se, but discussing an ad which contains some important truths. At least, it is far more truthful and self-evident than the unlimited barrage of manipulative ads coming from Romney super PACs.





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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 06:43 PM
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I just threw up in my mouth a little bit

Gingrich
Romney
Obama

ARE ALL IN THE SAME BANKERS POCKETS

George Soros helped the Nazis and doesn't feel bad about it. Why would I take the advice from someone with no moral grounding?



KROFT: (Voiceover) To understand the complexities and contradictions in his personality, you have to go back to the very beginning: to Budapest, where George Soros was born 68 years ago to parents who were wealthy, well-educated and Jewish. When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros' father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews. (Vintage footage of Jews walking in line; man dragging little boy in line)

KROFT: (Voiceover) These are pictures from 1944 of what happened to George Soros' friends and neighbors. (Vintage footage of women and men with bags over their shoulders walking; crowd by a train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) You're a Hungarian Jew...

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm. KROFT: (Voiceover) ...who escaped the Holocaust... (Vintage footage of women walking by train) Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm. (Vintage footage of people getting on train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) ... by -- by posing as a Christian.

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Right. (Vintage footage of women helping each other get on train; train door closing with people in boxcar)

KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that's when my character was made. KROFT: In what way?

Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and -- and anticipate events and when -- when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a -- a very personal experience of evil.

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that's -- that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

Mr. SOROS: Not -- not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don't -- you don't see the connection. But it was -- it created no -- no problem at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

KROFT: For example that, 'I'm Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.' None of that?

Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c -- I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn't be there, because that was -- well, actually, in a funny way, it's just like in markets -- that if I weren't there -- of course, I wasn't doing it, but somebody else would -- would -- would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the -- whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the -- I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt

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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by mnmcandiez
Gingrich
Romney
Obama

ARE ALL IN THE SAME BANKERS POCKETS


This is off-topic. The banks are not supporting Newt Gingrich at all. The financial elite don't like him.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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Not true. He just isn't as preferred as Romney by the elite.

www.opensecrets.org...


And what is off topic? Romney and Obama were both talked about the the Soros ad you posted.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 07:49 PM
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omg, that is a brilliant ad.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by mnmcandiez
Not true. He just isn't as preferred as Romney by the elite.


I've already seen that page. Those are paltry amounts. $9,150 from Bank of America? Romney has raised many millions from banks, investment companies and hedge funds. His biggest source of cash is Goldman Sachs. Gingrich's biggest source is a casino mogul.


If you did your research you'd know the financial elite have voiced deep misgivings about Gingrich. He is being destroyed by the elite's money. If that doesn't register with you I don't know what more to say.


Wall Street, generally speaking, has a "comfort level" with Romney, Gardner said "He's one of them." By contrast, Gardner said, "there is lack of comfort with Gingrich," dating back to his years in the House. "I don't think he was ever comfortable with the New York financial crowd. There was no real, major move on his part to reach out to the investment and commercial banking communities." Many in the financial industry have determined Gingrich is "unelectable and volatile," Gardner said.
business week

I appreciate the conspiracy aspect, which is why I wrote the thread, but you just posted some baseless off-topic assumptions and a piece about Soros's life during the holocaust. I respectfully suggest you read the OP.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 10:41 PM
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Newt is the same as Romney dont be fooled people.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by SteveR

It is amazing beyond belief that over a million Republican voters so far have chosen a man who's political beliefs align almost completely with Obamas. The most left leaning Republican probably in the history of politics is now being pushed as the nominee, and neither Gingrich, Santorum or Paul have much of a chance of stopping him. So my question is, are the elites growing more blatent by the year in pushing their agenda for the social remodelling of America? What exactly is going on here? And how can so many Republican voters be fooled?


The idea that a multi-millionaire private-equity Republican is 'left-leaning' shows how far to the right the center of discourse has moved. Of course in policy positions Romney is substantially further right than Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan or George HW Bush.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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I've done my research as I said in my previous post. The elite just like Romney better because he will do what they say Gingrich is more of a free spirit but still has support because he is still a globalist.

Newt Gingrich made a huge comeback out of nowhere. Do you forget he dropped out the race? Now he's a "main contender"? That just doesn't happen by chance.

And nothing was baseless as I posted sources.


This thread is about a Geroge Soros ad, I'm going to express my opinion about him. I also discussed the content of the ad which included Obama and Romney leading our country into further economic turmoil. I don't know what you expect.


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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:10 PM
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I expect you to read the OP and give your thoughts on what I put forward, not to skip to the video and respond to that by itself. You think George Soros is a Nazi because he tried to survive during the Holocaust. Great, but totally irrelevant. You have YouTube comments section for responses to the video. This is ATS and you respond to the OP here. The thread is about the manipulation of the political process by the elite, who are pushing the exact same agenda through Obama and Romney, and how over a million Republican voters have been fooled into thinking Romney is any different than Obama. This is some major subversion. If you want to talk about the Holocaust, there are plenty of threads for that. If you want to parrot lines from the Ron Paul playbook ad nauseum, there are more threads for you than I can count. Gingrich is being attacked by the establishment more than any other man in America right now and I consider that money the best indicator. Being a hawk does not make him a globalist in the real world, unless you suspend your cognitive functions and take every word out of the Ron Paul campaign as gospel truth.


Originally posted by mbkennel
The idea that a multi-millionaire private-equity Republican is 'left-leaning' shows how far to the right the center of discourse has moved. Of course in policy positions Romney is substantially further right than Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan or George HW Bush.


Interesting you think that. How is Romney to the right of them? Soros evidently doesn't think there are any differences between Romney and Obama, and this is the guy who considered it his life's mission to remove Bush. Romney's support of tough anti-gun laws is literally unprecedented for a Republican front-runner to say the least.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by mnmcandiez
George Soros helped the Nazis and doesn't feel bad about it. Why would I take the advice from someone with no moral grounding?


George Soros was 14 years of age at the time of Nazi occupation, he posed as the Godson of a Nazi sympathizer to avoid capture. He assisted Nazi officials in collecting Jewish property in order to play the part. if he didn't, he may have very well been sent to a concentration camp.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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I know he posed as a Nazi sympathizers son. And I know he collected his fellow Jews properties for the Nazis. The problem is that he doesn't feel bad about it.

If I did that, I would feel bad about it.

Him having no emotional response to it is psychopathic.
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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 10:11 PM
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My first post in this thread directly replied to your post and the video. Don't know what you want people to say bro. Clearly as you can see no one finds your thread interesting so you should thank me for replying


1. I said they were all supported by the same people, pushing the same agendas which directly correlated with the manipulation that you mentioned in the first post.
2. Never said anything about the holocaust
3. Questioned Soros' ability to feel empathy for others. Which means he has no problem screwing the world over for his own gain.

And I don't even know what you're talking about Ron Paul about. I like him because I think he is the most real candidate but disagree with a lot of his political views. As I don't consider myself to be a conservative at all. I'm intermediate if anything.

I'm not even aware anything that Ron Paul has said about Newt,Romney, or Soros ever. So I don't know what you're talking about "repeating lines from the Ron Paul campaign" as I don't watch the debates or much TV ever.

You don't know me so stop trying to act like you do. Making assumptions about people you know nothing about is silly.

Maybe you should study Newts political history if you really think he isn't a Globalist. Do your homework.

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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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Anyone with eyes and ears knows all the candidates, but for Ron Paul are neocons!



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 12:40 AM
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Not that this is what the orginal post is about.... but....

Soros was 14 years old, trying to blend in as not to squander the oppertunity his family secured for him. His young mind had to protect himself from the tragedy that was unfolding around him in order for him to survive. I'm not surprized it chose to seperate himself from those who were not as fortunate as he. I would think it would be a coping mech not psychopathic.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 06:06 AM
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I don't know why you are trying to fill in the information about his story when the transcripts I posted stated his age, reasons for doing it, etc.


I still feel bad about the shady things I did when I was 14.

The problem isn't him helping the Nazis' to stay alive, the problem is having no emotional response upon looking back on it.

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