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US Warns Iran Not to Fight Back

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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 07:56 PM
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some very Interesting facts in your post, thanks for these..

If Iran does move its proxies (Hezbollah/Hamas) to strike Israel and open up multiple front, do you think America will counter them directly, or would rather have Israel attend to them while they keep their focus on mainland Iran. what extent would the proxies escalate such a fight to ? sporadic rocket fire, or a volley/barrage to cause maximum carnage in the metropolis, and overwhelm any ADS where deployed ?

the zelzal-2 would reach Tel-aviv, and i do feel that if all is lost, Iran will throw everything, and the kitchen sink at Israel and american bases within its range.

to what extent would either side be willing to take, and ultimately, take this ?




posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 08:32 PM
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US Warns Iran Not to Fight Back


Translation into american english:

Please Iran, don't fight back, we don't have the man power or the money to go all out with you at war... Plus it would make oil cost so much... please, please, please we beg you...

Translation into israeli english:

we know you don't say half the propaganda we push out to the world but we need to kill you people because you are mostly brown and don't wear our funny hats... so don't fight back because we will just call you anti-semetic again and twist your words so that the world will believe us and then we will use our non existent nuclear warheads we were given by the US... after what happened in WWII who dares to contradict us? oy veh!



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 10:36 PM
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Iran should use the bar room method .

You walk into the bar and find the biggest meanest man in there.

Walk to him and bust him right in the mouth.

Now he will ether beat the bad man or get his butt handed to him.

Most people will think he is crazy or just plane ole mean.

But ether way no body else will mess with him again.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by DerekJR321
I think its a given that if Israel does strike at Iran, then Iran will retaliate against them. And of course, Israel is fully aware of this fact. In fact I would believe they were counting on it.

Israel hits Iran. Iran retaliates and hits back at Israel. United States attacks Iran because of this.

I think the problem that both Israel and the United States forget, is that Iran is NOT Iraq. It will not be a "cake walk" in any sense of the word. And once again the only people who are going to lose in this scenario are the citizens of all three countries involved. And frankly I think at this point, our (the US) involvement in another war will possibly be the straw that breaks the camels back. The people of the US just won't stand for it.



Spot on, but it won't be the "straw" that breaks the camels back it will be the entire hay bale. You see, Iraq and afghanistan combined have about 55 million citizens and a very small percentage of that was armed fighting the U.S. One war took 7 years, the other is ongoing.

Iran has nearly 80 million people, and has one of the top three biggest armies in the world, and while not overly technically sophisticated, have more technology than Iraq and Afghanistan did. So if we look at the model we would be at war with Iran for over 20 years if it came to that. They will not give up either, the persians have maintained that land for over 2000 years, and I dont think any western power is going to be able to bend Iran to their will.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by Bearack
 


They were also able to blind CIA spy satellites and take down a US drone...but the thing is that they do not have a sophisticated air defense network that could defend against an American attack. This is a major weakness of Iran.


Beg to differ, while Iran buys time with its dog and pony show, they've been beefing up despite sanctions thanks to the likes of Pakistan and Russia. Also, what exactly will the US bomb? more desert? They may not have the ultimate wave of techno know how to knock our teeth down our throat, yet any intervention would have to be swift. To drag it on would equal the fall of all US interst in the region not to mention what would occur if we p*ss off russia.

And they already have a plan in effect.......so does Iran.........any collateral damage is a given...and they are willign to accept heavy losses to complete a goal. What that goal is at the moment remains to be seen. Yet this is Persia we're talkin about here. Others have already proven that for all of the US's technology they still can't go mano a mano with people on the home field advantage.

Tao Ling Tszu said it best........."we will lay down until they lower their guard, and then strike when they turn their backs in asumption." Ali did it in the ring, iran can do it on the ground.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 07:45 AM
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Henry Kissinger: "If You Can't Hear the Drums of War You Must Be Deaf"

Henry Kissinger, the most famous living practitioner of international statecraft


NEW YORK - USA - In a remarkable admission by former Nixon era Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, reveals what is happening at the moment in the world and particularly the Middle East. Speaking from his luxurious Manhattan apartment, the elder statesman, who will be 89 in May, is all too forward with his analysis of the current situation in the world forum of Geo-politics and economics. "The United States is bating China and Russia, and the final nail in the coffin will be Iran, which is, of course, the main target of Israel.


We have allowed China to increase their military strength and Russia to recover from Sovietisation, to give them a false sense of bravado, this will create an altogether faster demise for them . We're like the sharp shooter daring the noob to pick up the gun, and when they try, it's bang. The coming war will be so severe that only one superpower can win, and that's us folks. This is why the EU is in such a hurry to form a complete superstate because they know what is coming, and to survive, Europe will have to be one whole cohesive state. Their urgency tells me that they know full well that the big showdown is upon us. O how I have dreamed of this delightful moment.

"Mr. Kissinger then added: "If you are an ordinary person, then you can prepare yourself for war by moving to the countryside and building a farm, but you must take guns with you, as the hordes of starving will be roaming. Also, even though the elite will have their safe havens and specialist ****ters, they must be just as careful during the war as the ordinary civilians, because their ****ters can still be compromised. "After pausing for a few minutes to collect his thoughts, Mr. Kissinger, carried on: "We told the military that we would have to take over seven Middle Eastern countries for their resources and they have nearly completed their job. We all know what I think of the military, but I have to say they have obeyed orders superfluously this time. It is just that last stepping stone, i.e. Iran which will really tip the balance.

How long can China and Russia stand by and watch America clean up? The great Russian bear and Chinese sickle will be roused from their slumber and this is when Israel will have to fight with all its might and weapons to kill as many Arabs as it can. Hopefully if all goes well, half the Middle East will be Israeli. Our young have been trained well for the last decade or so on combat console games, it was interesting to see the new Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 game, which mirrors exactly what is to come in the near future with its predictive programming. Our young, in the US and West, are prepared because they have been programmed to be good soldiers, cannon fodder, and when they will be ordered to go out into the streets and fight those crazy Chins and Russkies, they will obey their orders. Out of the ashes we shall build a new society, there will only be one superpower left, and that one will be the global government that wins. Don't forget, the United States, has the best weapons, we have stuff that no other nation has, and we will introduce those weapons to the world when the time is right.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 08:02 AM
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Curious, where is your source for this? i would like to read more if i could...



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 09:44 AM
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My friend read it in dailysquib.co.uk
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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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Breaking news, Obama just signed an executive order to freeze all Iranian assets in the US for concealing transactions in Iranian banks. Another smack for Iran. www.reuters.com...



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 11:31 AM
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soon, very soon itll be on like donkey kong......



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by rebellender
Think the United States is the only country interested in War Profiteering? I have to think not. a new Russia, ready to go. China all shiny and saddled up.Smaller countries wanting sub-contracts.

Places everybody the curtain comes up in xx days..........................fools (side spit)


I think you have stopped on that base. Go to the next one.
WTF is up with ATS do you not see the big, no bigger, no final picture here?

Did it ever occur to any of you that it is not the country against country, or nation against nation. Its the weasels that are pulling the strings that are all in cahoots with each other.

We as civilians make no enemy of each other. I swear this is true. It is the evnts that they, tptb are having us play along to.

I dont hate American's, Russians, French, Germans, Indians, Paki's, Brits, Scots, Welsh, Iranians, Australians, Chinese, or any other nation for that matter. This is merely their little sad effort to divide and conquer. Its working at the moment.
Effective tools they use are
Terrorism is an effective tool.
Color is an Effective tool
Religion is an effective tool
and all of the above they use to create divisions. To control.

However i do hate the people, the cowards at the top that are creating wars in a means of lining their own pockets in order to fund their lives of Luxury at "OUR" Expense.
Even the Military on all sides are being played. You will see.



posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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I do not disagree with your comment....but for now the World War has been postponed do to Indecision on all parties part. They just cant seem to make up their minds

this is how I look at your comment:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 02:38 PM
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No. The drama as it were is unfolding nicely. You see the way i see it is that certain individuals are preying on peoples faith. I say this because of the divisions in religions. We have left, we have right, we have east we have west. To me, America at the moment is in a mess. In loads of debt and needs a war. War in which has salvaged their economy before.
And before you start getting arsey put the connections together for yourself but hey if you want a clue with regard to the serpent/snake i suggest you go Anaconda Copper and before anyone else starts shooting the messenger, i believe that the connections i am making is beyond coincidence now.
I used to feel the same way about the east following 911 and my own personal interest in the topic found something that all of you so called conspiracy theorists had not mentioned once. A particular tenant of the world trade centers who just so happens to have many fingers in many pies.

I dont think its the governments, nor each other we have a problem with here. Its the ones that are pulling the strings. The very same people that have nation rise against nation while they sit together cashing in on others grief. I also believe when they, the elites, have used the military for what they need, and the technology is in place to remove the human factor from the military side of things, they will remove the human factor from military. Its happening now. Drones, unmanned. Taking away decisive reactions that only a human would make.

When they have in place what Dr Von Braun Had mentioned there will be no need for military.
Now all i need you to do is listen to this.
Dr Carol Rosin

Coincidence?
Can you think of anything of anything i have posted here as lies?
Does the video ring any bells?

I told you. I dont talk c%ap i am simply sharing what i see.
And what i see is everyone is being played regardless of which nation you are from, what skin colour you are, what religion you follow, whether you are civilian or military.

They are only doing it for themselves. Not us, not me not you. Themselves.

Ask yourself this my friend, if i was wrong then why does poverty, famine and illness still exist? Especially with the billions wasted on space adventures etc?

NOW TELL ME. AM I LYING?
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Oh and 1 more piece to add, if you can be bothered to read it before throwing more insults my way. In relation to 911.
READ!!! Its all there.NESARA

Soon after Barnard released NESARA on the internet, a user known as "Dove of Oneness" began posting about it in internet forums. "Dove of Oneness" has since been identified as Shaini Candace Goodwin, a former student of The Ramtha School Of Enlightenment, referred to in the media as a "cybercult queen."[1] According to Goodwin's website, the NESARA bill languished in Congress before finally being passed by a secret session in March 2000 and signed by President Bill Clinton. It is claimed that the new law was to be implemented at 10 am on September 11, 2001, but that the computers, and data (of the beneficiaries of the trillions of dollars of "Prosperity funds") were destroyed on the second floor of one of the World Trade Center towers in New York City during the terrorist attacks. Supposedly an earlier gag order issued by the Supreme Court had prohibited any official or private source from discussing it, under penalty of death.[3][4][5] Goodwin refers to "White Knights," most of them high-ranking military officials, who have since been struggling to have the law implemented despite opposition by President George W. Bush. Goodwin allegedly believes and purports that Bush orchestrated the September 11, 2001 attacks and the Iraq War as distractions from NESARA.[6][7] Goodwin's description of NESARA goes far beyond Barnard's proposal by cancelling all personal debts, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, declaring world peace, and requiring new presidential and congressional elections. Goodwin often claims that Bush officials are attempting to hack into and bring down her web site to prevent her from publicizing the law

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posted on Feb, 6 2012 @ 04:23 PM
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Oh great. Now all the Toby Keith fans are going to be screaming hurrahs for Obama. Forget the problems IN America, lets blow SNIP up in another foreign land. It's the American way. And you know, the timing is right, let Israel start a war with Iran until Iran turns the table and BOOM-it has to be called Wasrael, then the US swoops in to save the day right about election time and Obama gets his second term, then we see the change and transparency he promised....check and mate.


 
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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 04:09 AM
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Can't we just wait until Israel or US or Iran make the first move, start a war, THEN see who is ACTUALLY kick as.s?

As for US asking Iran not to retaliate, it is obviously a FRIENDLY advice.Logic rules, remember that.

IF Iran have the support of Russia and China, and i mean the FULL support, meaning Russia and China WILL engage in a war against US / Israel / West, the iranians should know that BEFORE americans will fight russians and chinese military, Iran will ALREADY be destroyed.

If Rusia and China do not FULLY support Iran...Iran will have to fight ALONE against US, and its obviously that they will be destroyed.

So...it is a FRIENDLY advice.Let Israel BOMB your nuclear facilities ONLY.If you RETALIATE against Israel, you will HIT CIVILIAN TARGETS, and the outcome will be that WE, US and Israel can ALSO hit your CIVILIAN TARGETS.

Iran , EVEN IF THEY CAN ACTUALY inflict some damage against US ships / planes and / or Israel...Iran, as a country, is DOOMED.Will Russia and China risk a WORLD WAR for Iran? Nope, they are NOT TAHT STUPID.

So, again, it is a FRIENDLY ADVICE : Do not retaliate or you are TOAST.What will be AFTER this, will not matter for you, because you, Iran, have ALREADY LOST your country and your people.

It will be either a small scale war, with Iran beeing the ONLY LOOSER, or a world war, with Iran beeing the FIRST LOOSER.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 04:39 AM
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You cant wait?

That is a statement that beggars belief. Do you not think that perhaps we have ALL seen enough war and that the only ones that gain anything from war are not us or the military?



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