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The dark web: Guns and drugs for sale on the internet's secret black market

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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 08:36 AM
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The dark web: Guns and drugs for sale on the internet's secret black market


www.bbc.co.uk

Out of reach of regular internet searches is the secretive online world known as the 'dark web' - anonymous, virtually untraceable global networks used by political activists and criminals alike.

The dark web is facilitated by a global network of computer users who believe the internet should operate beyond the supervision of law enforcement agencies.
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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 08:36 AM
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I am completely appalled at the BBC's one-sided coverage of this issue.

They are actively trying to link the Darkweb to child porn, crime, drugs, negative forms of 'anarchism' and lots of other bad things. This article is part of a wider campaign against the DarkWeb and Bitcoins in particular.

The Bitcoin currency is being demonised by governments and financial institutions all over the world, simply because they can't control it - which is why 'normal' people wish to use it. It's fair, limited, and acts as currency SHOULD DO. There is no process of fractional decimalisation, inflation, or monetary policy manipulation. It removes market distortions, and allows capitalism to function as it is supposed to. Not to mention it is completely untraceable and anonymous - just as currency should be.

As for the demonisation of the DarkWeb - the British government, along with many, many others seek to control and 'define' the internet so that it can be controlled, taxed and manipulated. The Dark Web prevents this. The BBC can continue down the path it appears to be following of being a corporatocracy stooge - but there will be consequences.

Already, MORI polls and other public surveys are showing that people now understand the BBC to be corrupt and spreading falsehoods. The internet community will not stand for their gutless corruption, and neither should we. Freedom of speech is sacrosanct. But actively spreading lies in the name of impartial journalism is easily understood as corruption.

What say you ATS? Are you pro or anti DarkWeb?

Also, what involvement is ATS having in participating with and defending the DarkWeb projects out there? I should hope that as a bastion of free-speech the owners of ATS would be on-side with the DarkWeb community at large...

I really think this is a massive issue, and something that could potentially shake the foundations of society as we know it.... should it be allowed to propagate that is...

The Revenant.

www.bbc.co.uk
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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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Can you please tell me, if you know, how to find this "dark web"? Pleeeeease.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:06 AM
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Trash journalism. It's completely legal to buy guns on the internet. Just like anything else, the internet is a tool. Tools aren't responsible for their actions. Users are.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:10 AM
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The gateway to get in, so to speak is TOR. I haven't been on there in a few months, so I am not up to date right now to give some onion links. Maybe someone else here could point you to some portals there.

On topic, yeah there is illegal stuff going on there sure. Just like regular mail, regular internet, your local town park etc etc. Shutting them all down will do nothing, people will just move somewhere else. And the illegal stuff is only a small fraction, so lets punish 100% of the people, for something maybe 5% are doing right? The government is just butthurt it cannot control the internet and the darknet is all. The only way is to shut em down.
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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:11 AM
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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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Yeah, sounds excellent. That is what I expect the internet to be like. After all, I do not belong to anyone and know what is legal and what isn't. And if shady elements want to use it than so be it, surely they do so in the real world as well. If anyone disagrees they can do police work on these sites just as they would in the real world. That is what I expect them to do anyway, what else do they get paid for. Also and this is the most important thing. Whatever one Government deems illegal may be legal somewhere else and why can't human beings decide for themselves?
I do NOT want anything banned just 'because'. It is up to everyone to keep an eye out for unacceptable things and let minor things be if they don't hurt anyone else.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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The easiest way to find what you seek on TOR for beginners. Read up on TOR, and how to stay safe on TOR first and foremost. Things like JS can render TOR useless. I use TOR mostly as a proxy myself, but there are TOR only sites, plenty of them. O

Once you understand what TOR is, and how to be safe, search pastebin, there are plenty of link dumps there. I usually search like this:
Tor Onion "what you are looking for", without the quotes.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:34 AM
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If theres a street corner then theres probably a drug dealer, hooker or conman standing on it, wether it is a virtual one or not....
I suppose you cant ban streets now can you?



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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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It is quite true that all these things (gun trafficking, paedophilia etc) are available on the 'normal' internet - it is also true however, that they are considerably harder to trace through the dark web. That isn't a point of view either, thats a fact.

It is also a fact that irrespective of how well intentioned, honest and / or naive individuals here may be, it is irresponsible to presume that criminals and ne'er do wells will not exploit this to the max - the dark web has no regulation, no rules and no trail to follow.

The few may indeed spoil it for the many, but when we are talking about issues of drug dealing, gun trafficking and child abuse (and like it or not, 0.01% of dark web traffic relating to these topics is still 0.01% too much) the sensible, rational approach is to try and stop this happening. If there are intentionally no controls or regulations or rules, then you have an exceptional situation. This leads inevitably to an exceptional answer - doing everything possible to shut the dark web down.



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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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It's obviously not legal in the UK? And I've never lived anywhere where I can buy a gun online?? Hell, I can't even buy a bottle of scotch online (bastards). I can order a gun .. have it sent to a gun dealer, who I then have to go through the rigamarole to actually obtain it. Or.. I can wait till a gun show comes to town and buy one about as black market as you can get for a cheap price too. But Brits can't own a gun of any kind unless they're a farmer, even then it's very limited. They fear butter knives let alone a web portal to access guns!
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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 10:07 AM
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pro deep web, at least for its potential wealth... I've failed to find stimulating/original links or material but I've heard people on other forums say there's some more than sensible research stuff contained within the network (however why do they fail to provide links?).. others bash it hard. my guess is you probably need to know someone who knows someone to find a directory/wiki with good information.. or find a group of benevolents on irc, teamspeak etc or whatever, if such is even possible.... not likely a group of anonymous freedom fighters will leave a channel unpassworded

TOR use to work for me but since I reformatted and updated my computer, tor is stifled and inoperable and there is serious lack of faq's on google to fix it.... its probably irresponsible to speculate that its secretly blacklisted through OS updates... prob just my wireless router isn't configured properly


be careful searching on pastebin because the bulk posted there is illegal pron.... Links look like "K1uflo5u2uawak.onion" so


didn't the navy assist in the making of TOR?
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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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But Brits can't own a gun of any kind unless they're a farmer, even then it's very limited.


What a load of rubbish. My wifes dad owns 6 guns. Anyone can have them you just have to belong to a gun club and no criminal record.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by eRastaMouse


But Brits can't own a gun of any kind unless they're a farmer, even then it's very limited.


What a load of rubbish. My wifes dad owns 6 guns. Anyone can have them you just have to belong to a gun club and no criminal record.


Sure... and did he buy them from some guy with no checks and with the intent to sell guns illegally?

I don't buy into the dark web all that much. All of it, the drug webs the hack webs and the assassin webs, just dont seem feasible.

I mean there are sites on there that claim to be able to hack anyone anywhere etc... If thats not anon on 4chan, then I have no idea what is..

It's like a script from a book. and at the end of the day, I think 90% of it's baloney.

The Cp however, is real.. and sick. and for that alone, I detest going to the dark web. Sure, you need to actively seek it, but if you do, you should instantly go to hell.

the dark web is real, but nothing like it's made out to be... nothing there that is not already up here on the normal internet.

I dunno, but I'm pretty sure you can always netstat your connection to see exactly what IP you're connected to. Using tor however, makes that hard, but the .onion links that you cant ping.. I dunno even twice...

just thinking out loud... cp should be actively stricken from the net. argh I hate media bs that would put a ban hammer on everything to catch a fly.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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wrong thread
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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 12:01 AM
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I hate stories like this that seem to be obvious fear mongering techniques. I hate them because they work. The people who write the laws arent the people who use the internet. They are either willingly ignorant, or aware and sinister. Its like when SOPA was big news, and the guys on C-Span kept talking about how they "didnt know" because "they werent nerds". Come on man, times have changed, we wont beat you up or stuff you into a locker because you like to use your computer at home. (sorry for the rant :@@


The whole thought of the dark web sounds appealing to me.

I have this idea that it will be like the good old days when I used to waste time on TOTSE and other Altnet groups. I also have a sneaky suspicion that those days are gone for good, and if I were to delve into the Dark web I would be very disappointed.

Who knows though.



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