It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Unlike the stories of many other native Americans, many of these stories were collected before there was a chance of cultural contamination by outside sources,such as Christian missionaries
Originally posted by UnaChispa
reply to post by Hanslune
I have no idea what you just said right now.
OP, great thread. I take interest in this as well, being from the 559/209.
What kind of myths have you heard?
Originally posted by Hanslune
reply to post by punkinworks10
Howdy Punkinwork
I must ask, if you said this:
Unlike the stories of many other native Americans, many of these stories were collected before there was a chance of cultural contamination by outside sources,such as Christian missionaries
If a foreigner wrote down the stories that means there was cultural contact as a common language was used - that takes some time come about, during which there is contact. However I'm sure you'll be how the stories came to be recorded and by whomedit on 2/2/12 by Hanslune because: (no reason given)
Based on archeological calculations, the Yok-Utian family may be as old as Indo-European, and the Klamath appear to have lived in their current location for 7000 years. Thus the time depth of the proposed Inland Penutian branch alone approaches the limits of what many think traditional historical reconstruction can determine; this is sometimes used as an argument against the Penutian
hypothesis. [citation needed]
Based on linguistic analysis, archaeological data, other historic evidence, and field trips, Otto J. von Sadovszky. late professor of Anthropology, California State University, Fullerton, made the correlation for the migration of fishers from the Ob River (Siberia). Their folklore suggests they ultimately followed salmon along the North American coast and entered San Francisco Bay. He dubbed them Cal-Ugrians, and the Asian group Ob-Ugrians. His reconstruction of such migrations has not beenwell received.In his studies, he suggests a link between certain Asian language families that include Hungarian (his native tongue) and languages of the Ob River and the Penutian languages of California. See his book for
a detailed analysis of the languages and the ethnohistorial reconstruction. [15][16][dubious – discuss]
Originally posted by ANNED
So far the evidence is that the first Californians were the Clovis people and not related to modern native Americans.
This was the Arlington Springs Woman and is 13,000 ago.
www.cabrillo.edu...
archaeology.about.com...
Evidence for a diversified sea-based economy among North American inhabitants dating from 12,200 to 11,400 years ago is emerging from three sites on California's Channel Islands.
Reporting in the March 4 issue of Science, a 15-member team led by University of Oregon and Smithsonian Institution scholars describes the discovery of scores of stemmed projectile points and crescents dating to that time period. The artifacts are associated with the remains of shellfish, seals, geese, cormorants and fish.
The technologies involved suggest that these early islanders were not members of the land-based Clovis culture, Erlandson said. No fluted points have been found on the islands. Instead, the points and crescents are similar to artifacts found in the Great Basin and Columbia Plateau areas, including pre-Clovis levels at Paisley Caves in eastern Oregon that are being studied by another UO archaeologist, Dennis Jenkins. Last year, Charlotte Beck and Tom Jones, archaeologists at New York's Hamilton College who study sites in the Great Basin, argued that stemmed and Clovis point technologies were separate, with the stemmed points originating from Pacific Coast populations and not, as conventional wisdom holds, from the Clovis people who moved westward from the Great Plains. Erlandson and colleagues noted that the Channel Island points are also broadly similar to stemmed points found early sites around the Pacific Rim, from Japan to South America
Originally posted by punkinworks10
The people of the channel islands were also not typical northeast asians, but physically were more like pacific islanders, or melanesians.
Erlandson and colleagues noted that the Channel Island points are also broadly similar to stemmed points found early sites around the Pacific Rim, from Japan to South America
Abstract Comparative morphological studies of the earliest human skeletons of the New World have shown that, whereas late prehistoric, recent, and present Native Americans tend to exhibit a cranial morphology similar to late and modern Northern Asians (short and wide neurocrania; high, orthognatic and broad faces; and relatively high and narrow orbits and noses), the earliest South Americans tend to be more similar to present Australians, Melanesians, and Sub-Saharan Africans (narrow and long neurocrania; prognatic, low faces; and relatively low and broad orbits and noses). However, most of the previous studies of early American human remains were based on small cranial samples. Herein we compare the largest sample of early American skulls ever studied (81 skulls of the Lagoa Santa region) with worldwide data sets representing global morphological variation in humans, through three different multivariate analyses. The results obtained from all multivariate analyses confirm a close morphological affinity between South-American Paleoindians and extant Australo-Melanesians groups, supporting the hypothesis that two distinct biological populations could have colonized the New World in the Pleistocene/Holocene transition.