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Originally posted by A-Dub
A little over the top and expensive for most people but cool none the less.
I dont mean this offensively but if your dad is so bent on bug out scenarios, shouldnt he realise the most important aspect of survival besides supplies is being healthy and in shape? If you end up having to walk miles and miles, slowing down the group or getting injured is a death sentence.
Too bad the government will label him a terrorist now for having all of thatedit on 3-2-2012 by A-Dub because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by circuitsports
I work in the outdoor and survival industry and most of these idiots that claim you don't talk about fight club are sooooooooooooo wrong.
There are 310 million people in this country, if they think they and a small group of people can stand against that tidal wave of desperation, they have a harsh lesson coming. They are not super stealth ninjas when you buy food,supplies and build fortifications people notice.
The best thing you can possibly do for yourself is to spread the word. The more people that are prepared the better the situation will be. You can't teach people by talking about zombies and that nonsense you teach them by showing what you did and why.
The reality is America was formed and survives because of the strength of the collective. When we try to live on our own islands you have division, civil war and opportunity for foreign invasion.
You only need to look at the last serious time in our history the great depression to prove that point - united we stand divided we fall.
And if the whole world is screwed up I can promise you all of asia is going to come streaming across the sea - what are the preppers going to do then ?
Also the ironic thing is people claim that your stupid if you talk about your preparations, but then where did they learn from ? are all the people that host shows, write books and teach classes morons - and if I am not to listen to people who talk about it then I guess they are idiots too.edit on 3-2-2012 by circuitsports because: (no reason given)edit on 3-2-2012 by circuitsports because: (no reason given)edit on 3-2-2012 by circuitsports because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FugitiveSoul
To those commenting that revealing this info is dangerous to the op's family:
Prepping isn't just about self-preservation, but also about continuity of species and way of life.
Showing people how to prepare isn't dangerous, it only shows others what they need to do for themselves in order to make it. There are always going to be scavengers and marauders, they exist here and now without a shtf scenario. You can't avoid them, and they will find you no matter what.
This guy did a good job in discussing his level of preparedness, as well as revealing that he and his party will be armed, but without giving away his final destination.
All in all, good op.
I would say that they should park their buses and trucks in a trianglular shape, instead of a square, leaving only 3 watch points instead of four. This will also keep the camp area smaller and easier to heat. The fourth vehicle can be placed tightly behind the other truck, back to back. Just a suggestion.
edit on 3-2-2012 by FugitiveSoul because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by babybunnies
It's arrogant to assume that you'll survive the initial cataclysm that will wipe out most of humankind.
Originally posted by VonDoomen
okay so when we have a nuclear winter that last a couple decades, where will this get you?
seems like a whole lot of work for nothing. imagine if these people put their time and resources towards ensuring the world was a better place and didnt need a "bugout"
the whole mentality seems defeatists.
Originally posted by BohemianBrim
great idea... put that much effort into something, then expose it on national tv for everyone to see.
you should ask your dad for me, what was the point?
it obviously wasnt about staying safe, because he just ruined that chance.
so im guessing it was more about "doing something" and once he had done it.. now its about bragging and showing off.
it doesnt make sense to me that someone could perceive the threat that something may happen that he should be prepared for, and yet still be entirely brainwashed into the cult of "everything i do should be broadcast to the whole world"...
does he also have a facebook page for this compound? does he tweet about its progress??