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Do you think alien contact would necessarily be a good thing?

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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 03:07 AM
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This topic has come up many times and I will say again a rsounding NO! It would not be a good thing for the Masses but communication has been made. There is a deal in place and believe me....you do not want any Alien Entities interested in you or your family. Split Infinity




posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 03:41 AM
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yeah then replace the engines with four stage rocket engines, saying they just work fine, but it will slightly take a bit longer to be home...



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 03:57 AM
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you know how some humans evolved and naturally felt inclined to be good natured and peaceful, seek the beautiful and subtle possibilities of energy and existence..... you dont think aliens could have evolved to that nature? but to an exponentially higher degree?

or you just think the ones that could interact with, and that are interacting with earth are of the no silly fun and games variety...

when you say deals were made,,, technology ya..



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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My theory is obviously just a theory, but I was talking about it with my boyfriend last night. Perhaps the reason we only see a few aliens here and there is because they're smart enough not to come down here. Earth could be a test planet; the crop circles, etc. It's farfetched but what if they dump their traitors/criminals/dunces here to punish them? A sort of marooning.

I don't think they'd necessarily be willing to help us with anything. That's assuming they're as selfish as we are as a species. Aliens could live completely different than us, maybe they just don't meddle.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by ImaFungi
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you know how some humans evolved and naturally felt inclined to be good natured and peaceful, seek the beautiful and subtle possibilities of energy and existence..... you dont think aliens could have evolved to that nature? but to an exponentially higher degree?

or you just think the ones that could interact with, and that are interacting with earth are of the no silly fun and games variety...

when you say deals were made,,, technology ya..


I have said alot about several versions of this topic and the one constant that runs through all my past posts on all those similar topics is....we know several races of E.T. exist...both known and unknown. We made a deal....actually we were forced into a deal as were they....shortly after the U.S. General Public as well as media and Law Enforcement Branches as well as all Branches of the U.S. Military....became scared to death....as MASSIVE E.T. CRAFT overflights of Washington DC began in the 50's.

They were doing this to get our attention because we had recovered several Dead and some possibly alive E.T. Lifeforms after the DUEL crash that occured at Roswell and a secondary site some distance away. Plus we recovered and sent to Wright Patterson all recovered Materials.

They...wanted their people and craft back. We wanted to keep everything. Attempts at communication failed in Late 49 and 50 and soon after a message was sent with HUNDREDS of E.T. Craft overflying Washington DC as well as many Military bases as well as our Nuclear Bombing Wings.

General Curtis LeMay proposed to shoot one down...as everything up to this point for WEEKS...had failed in protecting our airspace...so LeMay proposed using a Nuclear Tipped Air to Air Missle to bring one of these craft down...you have NO IDEA how close this plan came to be a reality.

Eventually...the communication problem was resolved and we gave them back some of their things and people and we were allowed to keep some things for study. Let me make this clear...IF THEY WISHED TO...THERE IS NOTHING WE COULD DO TO STOP THEM FROM RECOVERING ANYTHING NO MATTER HOW DEEP DOWN IN A VAULT WE HAVE IT! To do so was simply too overt for them so a deal was made.

In this deal...we were able to keep the number of ACTUAL ALIEN ABDUCTIONS LOW....as current claims are rediculous and are just a bunch of people with issues...but there are real abductions and experimentations that go on...we could never stop them but we gained some leverage by playing one group of E.T. against another group...so...we have the tiniest bit of leverage as well as being allowed to keep some tech and some very interesting things in Biochemestry as well as Biomechanics.

The information on the massive E.T. Craft overflights of Washington DC is available to anyone and just gooogle the old DC newspaper articles and you will be surprised how the BIGGEST STORRY IN HUMAN EXISTANCE...remains a whisper. The Agency...not the CIA...is in control of EVERYTHING that is E.T. and even a standing U.S. President does not have this level of security clearance. Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 12:44 AM
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so what is your view on ancient alien influence with humans?

i can imagine advanced aliens can zip around to any point in space and time....

maybe to them 10 000 years ago isnt that long... but it could be different races have mingled in ancient mans past?

Theres no way they can give us any world saving hints, clues, or philosophies? or the technology they contributed has these capabilities and they simply dont care about us that much....

i would love to know what their insights on the universe is, their philosophies, and their physical and technological abilities.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 12:50 AM
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Not at all.

None of them speak English. They ought to pack them up on a truck and ship them all back to Mexico.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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We have had contact and the abductions were true. Here are the facts.

Linda Howe and John Lear know that Kirkland Air Force base Security Commander of Operations Lt. Colonel Ernest Edwards(1980) confirmed Dr. Paul Bennewitz's (electrical scientist and founder of instrument company affiliated with the Air Force, being a scientist Paul knew how to access NASA satellite photos and a range of classified type things, the lab he setup for the aliens was in his house) proof of the existence of an underground alien base near Dulce New Mexico. Paul wrote to the Pentagon and the President about his proof of an underground alien base in the mountains by Dulce New Mexico, not the Archuletta Peak but 20 miles to the west at Mt. Archuletta. Paul spoke to then Senator of New Mexico Harrison Schmitt (also astronaut and one who held the '79 cattle mutilation conference) on the phone continously about about cattle mutilations that were happening in Dulce and his proof of a US underground base located in the area. Paul actually measured the frequency coming from an implant in a woman's neck in 1980, and had a video monitor that gained reception of the alien base from where it was implanted (she claimed under hypnosis by alien creatures, her son saw them in a field abducting a cow and said questionly "they have no clothes on our sex organs"). This was all done before Rick Doty knew who Paul Bennewitz was (for those who think Rick fed stories to Paul). The government was truly successful, all the hard intelligent work payed off because they continue to place disinformation and counterintelligence agents in front of the US media such as Bill Moore, Greg Bishop, Chris O'Brien, and Anthony Sanchez. The security commander who saw the proof was promoted and shipped off to Germany, not before he aided in talking to the Air Force headquarters in Washington on Paul's behalf, and "blew up" at them when they lied over what they said and gave Paul the cold shoulder. It is so much that these people want for us not to know the truth about aliens performing abductions and cattle mutilations on the planet, they really go to great lengths to make people like you believe there is nothing to this but strange objects created by cellphone photo enhancements..



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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It depends what form it takes.

However, the simple knowledge of alien existence and previous visitation would be an overwhelmingly good thing for everybody except those who having lying about it for a half century.

It shifts us from many tribes to one tribe in an instant.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Since God Satan Demons and Angels are NOT OF THIS Earth... wouldn't that make them true ET?

A superior Alien with powers beyond our understanding in the past..
if he was benevolent, would be called a God
if he was malevolent, would be called a Devil

So if Aliens exist they would prove religion.



On the contrary, the extraterrestrial beings are physical beings that are not of the Earth. God and Angelic Presence are not limited to this dimension, yet their presence permeates through this dimension.

“Superior” aliens, I’m presuming you mean because of their advanced technology, are beyond our understanding only because we don’t have it yet, just as a westerner’s compass might have been to Native Americans when they didn’t have such technology yet. The ETs merely want us to think that their technology and abilities are beyond our understanding, for our ignorance would keep us guessing about them, keep themselves mysterious, and prevent us from knowing their true motives, true agendas, and true goals.

If you mean, by “superior” aliens, spiritually more advanced aliens, then, yes, there exist spiritually more advanced aliens. True. Yes, there exist physical beings who represent the Wise in the universe. However, those ETs that have been intervening in our world in the past few decades are aliens here to take advantage of the weak and divided humanity for its resources. Until the humanity becomes aware of the ET Intervention and declares its sovereignty over this solar system, that is, until the humanity becomes an independent, strong, free race with its self-determination preserved, the only foreign races from outer space that the humanity will encounter are those that scheme to overtake this world covertly for their use.

All religions are initiated by God, the Creator and the Source of all beings, not by aliens. Thus, to say that the existence of aliens “proves” (or, by the same token, “disproves”) religions is an erroneous statement.

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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by DarkKnight76
I tend to think if there were "evil' aliens hell-bent on conquering our planet and stealing our resources, they would have already.

Like science fiction has done in the past, it will predict the future. In that regard I think the universe will end up being close to how it is depicted in Star Trek, with numerous civilizations, some friendly, some not. i also believe that they will not "reveal" themselves to us until we, as a planet, get our collective s#!t together.



The ETs have, indeed, been appropriating our resources throughout human history. There is a reason that the ETs are taking a clandestine route to conquer the world. I would like to share with you an excerpt from a book titled Allies of Humanity, www.AlliesOfHumanity.org



You live in a part of the galaxy that is quite inhabited. Not all parts of the galaxy are so inhabited. There are great unexplored regions. There are many hidden races. Trade and commerce between worlds are only carried on in certain areas. The environment that you will emerge into is a very competitive one. The need for resources is experienced everywhere, and many technological societies have outstripped their world’s natural resources and must trade, barter and travel to gain what they need. It is a very complicated situation. Many alliances are formed and conflicts do occur.

….There are other constraints against warfare in the Greater Community. Most trading societies belong to large guilds that have established laws and codes of conduct for their members. These serve to constrain the activities of many who would seek to use force to gain access to other worlds and their proprietary resources. For warfare to break out on a large scale, many races would have to be involved, and this does not happen often. We understand that humanity is very warlike and conceives of conflict in the Greater Community in terms of warfare, but in reality you will find that this is not well tolerated and that other avenues of persuasion are employed in place of force.

Thus, your visitors come to your world not with great armaments. They do not come bringing large military forces, for they employ the skills that have served them in other ways—skills in manipulating the thoughts, the impulses and the feelings of those whom they encounter. Humanity is very vulnerable to such persuasions given the degree of superstition, conflict, and mistrust that are prevalent in your world at this time.

Therefore, to understand your visitors and to understand others whom you will encounter in the future, you must establish a more mature approach to the use of power and influence. This is a vital part of your Greater Community education. Part of the preparation for this will be given in the Teaching in Greater Community Spirituality, but you must also learn through direct experience.


The Hollywood movies, unfortunately, do not provide a true depiction of life in the universe. Movies such as Star Trek, Star Wars, or War of Worlds are but human projection of human characteristics onto the intelligent beings in the universe, which can have very different ideologies, philosophies, traditions, values, and beliefs from ours. If and when the ETs do reveal themselves to the humanity, they will have conquered the world already and the humanity will have lost its freedom and self-determination to them. It is utterly unwise to expect their presence in this world or the presentation of themselves to us as anything beneficial to the humanity.

However, if you believe that we need to get our affairs together in order to unite and cooperate to thwart the ET Intervention, you’re absolutely moving in the right direction.



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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Illustronic

Originally posted by yourboycal2
IF they knew better they would stay away from this cancer infested planet of humans.


If they got here would be enough proof that they do know better. Don't worry about the poor intergalactic space travelers, humans would be powerless to prevent them from doing what they damn well please. That's pretty much proof earth has not been visited by any extraterrestrial intelligent life form interested in taking what they want.



No, there is much for us to learn about the life in the universe. Human beings don’t have the advanced technology that the ETs covertly invading this world and we do not have the social cohesion that they do. However, we most certainly do have a great power within each one of us that is waiting for us to discover and cultivate. We are not so powerless as you believe.

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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
...we could never stop them but we gained some leverage by playing one group of E.T. against another group...so...we have the tiniest bit of leverage as well as being allowed to keep some tech and some very interesting things in Biochemestry as well as Biomechanics.


I do know that we could, in fact, stop them despite their more advanced technology. First, the humanity must become aware of the ET Intervention, then it must become educated about the reality of life in the universe. Then it must declare its sovereignty over this solar system. To that end, the humanity needs to end its ceaseless conflicts and unite itself in order to strengthen itself.

It is very dangerous of human beings, the native of this planet, yet ignorant about life in the Greater Community of Worlds, to accept some trinket technology from extraterrestrial beings whose motives and goals are unknown to the humanity.

Here's an excerpt from the Foreword in theAllies of Humanity, www.AlliesOfHumanity.org


Our considerations will inevitably lead to the inescapable conclusion that our predicament today has profound parallels to the incursion of European “civilization” into the Americas beginning in the 15th century, when indigenous peoples were unable to comprehend and adequately respond to the complexity and danger of the forces visiting their shores. The “visitors” came in the name of God, exhibiting impressive technology, and purporting to offer a more advanced and more civilized way of life. (It is important to note that the European invaders were not “evil incarnate” but merely opportunistic, leaving in their wake a legacy of unintended devastation.)

Here is the point: The radical and wide-scale violation of fundamental freedoms that native Americans subsequently experienced—including the rapid decimation of their population— is not only a monumental human tragedy, but also a powerful object lesson for our current situation. This time, we are all the native people of this one world, and unless we can collectively muster a more creative and unified response, we may suffer a similar fate. This is precisely the realization that The Allies of Humanity precipitates



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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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...Whenever the Police and Immigration Officals are there ready to cuff them and throw them in the back of a vegetable truck for shipping back to Mexico.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by ImaFungi

Theres no way they can give us any world saving hints, clues, or philosophies? or the technology they contributed has these capabilities and they simply dont care about us that much....

i would love to know what their insights on the universe is, their philosophies, and their physical and technological abilities.


Perhaps what we need to know are their true motives, intentions, and goals for being in this world and the reasons that they are carrying out their very sinister activities clandestinely. We cannot be hopeful that they "care about us" or assume that their advanced technology somehow indicates their superiority.

From Foreword in the Allies of Humanity. www.AlliesOfHumanity.org



……we must confront and question many of the prevailing assumptions and tendencies regarding the possibility and the reality of Contact. These include:

– denial;
– hopeful expectation;
– misinterpreting the evidence to affirm our beliefs;
– wanting and expecting salvation from the “visitors”;
– believing that ET technology will save us;
– feeling hopeless and submissive to what we assume is a superior force;
– demanding government disclosure but not ET disclosure;
– condemning human leaders and institutions while maintaining unquestioned acceptance of the “visitors”;
– assuming that because they have not attacked or invaded us, they must be here for our good;
– assuming that advanced technology equals advanced ethics and spirituality;
– believing that this phenomenon is a mystery when in fact it is a comprehensible event;
– believing that ETs in some way have claim to humanity and to this planet;
– and believing that humanity is irredeemable and cannot make it on its own.




posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
This topic has come up many times and I will say again a rsounding NO! It would not be a good thing for the Masses but communication has been made. There is a deal in place and believe me....you do not want any Alien Entities interested in you or your family. Split Infinity


I agree, Split Infinity. It most definitely would not be a good thing for the humanity for the Extraterrestrial Intervention to be in this solar system. If only the rest of the world knew what peril the humanity is facing by remaining pacified in its ignorance and inaction regarding the ET Intervention...



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by ballisticmousse
...Whenever the Police and Immigration Officals are there ready to cuff them and throw them in the back of a vegetable truck for shipping back to Mexico.


The humanity cannot afford to continue to joke around about the Extraterrestrial Intervention. The Americans and Mexicans as well as the rest of the world are facing a very dire circumstance which could lead to a loss of human freedom and its self-determination. Human beings have maybe less than 20 years before this fate will be determined. You are inadvertently helping the ET Intervention in accomplishing its goal with your jokes and foolishness.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by justwokeup

However, the simple knowledge of alien existence and previous visitation would be an overwhelmingly good thing for everybody except those who having lying about it for a half century.

It shifts us from many tribes to one tribe in an instant.


I would agree with you completely, if you meant that our knowledge of their existence and visitation would be a good thing for everyone because it would unite the humanity to thwart the Extraterrestrial Intervention.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by ballisticmousse
Not at all.

None of them speak English. They ought to pack them up on a truck and ship them all back to Mexico.


You're not so foolish enough to think that people are talking about Mexicans here.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by TheUndertaker
My theory is obviously just a theory, but I was talking about it with my boyfriend last night. Perhaps the reason we only see a few aliens here and there is because they're smart enough not to come down here. Earth could be a test planet; the crop circles, etc. It's farfetched but what if they dump their traitors/criminals/dunces here to punish them? A sort of marooning.

I don't think they'd necessarily be willing to help us with anything. That's assuming they're as selfish as we are as a species. Aliens could live completely different than us, maybe they just don't meddle.


It can be fun to theorize but does not help the humanity in its peril. The extraterrestrial beings cannot breathe this atmosphere and cannot withstand the biodiversity (germs), having been evolved in very sterile environments. They are not adapted to this environment and so, they cannot "come down here," let alone live in this world if "dumped" here.

The ETs are, indeed, very self-serving and they think they are in the right to appropriate our resources because they regard us very primitive and unworthy stewards of this planet rich with resources and biodiversity, which they covet for themselves.

www.AlliesOfHumanity.org



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