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Hugo Chavez: Warming Americans' hearts

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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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reply to post by SkurkNilsen
 


Damn right

Thanks for speaking up for us Venezuelans

I hate that guy with passion, he destroyed my country

Thank you Chavez for the 40 killings per day in venezuela by gunshot, thanks you for decreasing our coin by more than 300%
He had to take out 3 zeros from our currency because it is so low.
We cannot exchange money to any foreign money. We have to ask permission to the goverment to take money out of the country and they only give you $1200 at a time per month and $200 per month that you can take cash. they ask you for every receipt so they analise your expenses.

If you have more than one property, they take the otehr ones because you dont need them and put people living in those houses you apid with your sweat.

he have made millions of ways to take absolute control of the powers in the country. The Electoral centre is managed by hhis people.

My dad sign a referendum with another 6 million people to take him out. He got the list at the end and fire every single one of them. When you look for a job, the first thing they ask is if you signed the referendum. My dad had to ask a contatc to take him out of the list so he could work. Look for "Tascon list"

He doesnt offer help, he buys votes which is diferent. he has destroyed the middle class and the richer are gettign richer and the poorer, poorer. many Venezuelans have fled the country due all the safety issues there. They kill you for your blackberry, for your shoes.


Please, this is a very stupid threat. You have clearly never been to my country and do not have any idea of what is the situation there.


I say again, I never comment in Ron Paul/Obama or US affairs because I have no idea about what is going on in the country and I DONT LIVE THERE so I wont have a clear idea of what it is and also because they clearly dont include me or interfere with my life.

This is pure propaganda. Good on you for buying it

No star or flag!




posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 08:44 PM
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I dont believe he is against teh US

The US is the first buyer of our oil and we havent done anything for it.

The goverment politicians love their holiday in Disneyland and Florida. We call Winston Winstonzuela because it si full of us there.

They lvoe thir McDonalds, their Hummer, their Rolex

so much for anti-imperialism what a big b.s propaganda



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 08:46 PM
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reply to post by Chewingonmushrooms
 


ANTI-CAPITALIST?

hahahaha Dont make me laugh

They are more capitalist than your own country!



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 08:50 PM
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he has not been good to the people fo Venezuela.

It is very late here, 2:47 am but I will get into detail tomorrow and bombard you with article after article

inflation is 32%

How has he been good? By giving the people during demostrations strippers, alcohol and even crack? ha! Peopole you ahvent been here.,


Something I hate in ATs is how some United Statians can come here and talk about everything like they know it all when they ahvent even been outside their bubble.

Shame on you!

It makes me angry because my family hjas paid for that idiot being on power and my family is not even powerful or upper class. They are middle class, normal working people... thats their target. The richer are gettign richer because they change their mind depending on whos in power plus they are teh people who keep the politicans in goverment and the pooer are getting pooer but our ignorant low class can be entertain with bread and circus and be bought for votes very easily



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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he shut down RCTV, he expropiated Sambil a whole mall and its empty now, he expropiated many companies that were VENEZUELAN and were there for a LONG TIME.

One of teh companie sthaty he hasnt shut and it is very dear to us Venezuelans in EMPRESAS POLAR. Have you ever seen our lovely arepa flour yellow packages? They produce them and it would make a hell if they close down that company oh! but they have tried.


What happened on the 11 of April 2003? Pf! people you dont know anything! there was a strike for 2 months and people were hungry and they were desperate to get him out. There was a demostration that day of 1 million people in Caracas and by a bridge they were shot and 34 people died. The even videio taped the people shutting and they were GOVERMNET PEOPLE because they are criminals, all the people in power now some of them were even paramilitars... how did we got to that? He then on that day was sent to La Orchila to force him to sign a paper to give the power away. How do I know because friends of my uncle were there with chavez and they almost killed him and the veyr veyr very COWARD was crying and asking for forgiveness................... &^(**&^ helL!!!!!!! and they let him go.... after three days of very bad communicationa nd organisation.. the idiot got his people to rescue hima nd the paper he signed.... turning one of the military people with him and was named minister later... all money... mony talks.. and then he said that itg was the CIA............ hahahaha

great times...


I was in demostrations with tear gas thrown at me...


now Im in ENgland, paying taxes with a conservative goverment but Im happy..... at least I can go outside at 8-9pm without being shot because they want my shoes... and I dont blame the criminals.. because they are desperate and they are brainwashed... I blame the goverments because they havent done anything good.. what they ahve done is one of the biggest propaganda campaigns I have seen in my life... all for Bolivar.


Bolivar must be now revolting in his grave after so much boll*cks!


ASK ME ANYHTING I WILL ANSWER....


I am surprise the "Bolivarina Socialist movement" havent got paid to be in ATS....umm! They dont think fast! I met people Chavista in Canada and they ahd avery nice BMW.. gold!



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:08 PM
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reply to post by neo96
 


THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH!

I HATE OLIVER STONE AND SEAN PENN...!

IDIOTS! THEY ARE NOT WELCOME IN THE COUNTRY!!


I post this:





Same as many stupid patriotic people extremist fanatic, Chavistas get paid to go on the internet and destroy evidence of what happened on 11/04/2002 creating false stories and putting down as thoumbs down on youtube video.

I ahve met people who get paid for this and I stopped talking to them! How can you accept that that is a good job? What money does to people!



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:15 PM
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What about the 100+ political prisoners in venezuela?

What about Ramon Brito who did a hunger strike and died?

What about the guy in prison, because he is a whatever against the soul of the country or whatever stupid word Chavez chooses to describe it... dying of cancer and he is not allowed ot get treatment.

what about the law that says that if you talk bad about mr presi, you go to jail for 10+ years? but if you get caught kidnapping people they may even let you go... becaus ethe twisted thing is... the police ara the same people who rob you...

the police dont have teh weapons the criminals have.,.


man, dont keep this up because I will crush you with my anger seriously... you posting this s**t while me... everty time I talk to my dad he asks me millions of time how can I get him out of there.. and for me..its impossible at the moment

my dad needs to get medicine for hormones and his vital organs and he cant even get the medicines.. he needs to contact russia and germany directly (the manufacturers) to get them or get them from 6-7 different pharmacies....
you got o a hospital and not even cottom or alcohol they have...


you go to a supermarket and you are only alowwed a jug of milk per family..

you cant even find products from veenzuela, they are all from Brazil, Ecuador, Bolivia, Argentina.. Im talking about prime foods like milk, eggs, meat, coffee are ALL from abroad... COFFEE! Imagine!!!
We used to have a massive market before..



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:23 PM
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SOCIALISM?

I WISH!
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At leats then we would have free health and free education... and good subsidised transport! We do have health but its CRAP! NO ONE! USES THE HOSPITAL pfffffff! You get a life insurance in your job and if not you save the last penny you can and if not unfortunately you need a hospital but you will need to complain and complain and complain to get you in the list.

Imagine.. I worked in the hospital voluntary and I was there with sick kids entertain them before going to surgery because if their lips (you know that lip condition) and it was founded by PRIVITE organisation.. not by Chavez..

The eductaion is the worst I have seen

the so called "Ribas mision" were you can get a high shcool diploma in 8 months... 8 months????????? what did you learn????????? what I learned in 12 years?????????? IMPOSSIBLE! Thats a way to brainwashed people with stupid communist ideas Im sorry and its not even communist people its worst... its really a sect.. its crazy and Chavez is god... What are you going to get in 8 months? A job? as what a lawyer? These are not methods to teach anyone anything and its pure evil because it gives people hope!


We have also a lot of Iranians aaaaaaaaaaaaah we have Uranium, did you know that for those all crazy about Iran and its nuclear blah blah... well thats why these two crazy crazies are friends!
Hows your eye now?


Sorry my way of writing is not educated and plite like the British taught me and Im sorry if it is hard to follow but I am
by this post and some of the answers...




posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:34 PM
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YES MY FRIEND BUT IN CANADA THE HEALTHCARE WORKS! do not compare Gymnasium and Magnasium.
and how do I know because I was born and lived in Venezuela (of 7 stars) for 16 years and I moved to Canada for 4 years so I know.
In fact I was pretty much like a kid in a candy shop when i saw the hospitals in Canada... and Canada! ha! a country tha doesnt have oil, minerals or the landscape we have.

Do you know how much money we make per day? PER DAY!? calculate yourself, how much is the barrel? Well only to Citgo we sell more than 700.000 barrels per day! Multiply that by the price of the barrel

We have the biggest reserve of heavy and extra heavy oil in the world which is estimated toi be more than 1.36 billion barrels... Orinoco Belt............. and we are still one of the most dangherous palces in the world, we have very bad services...we have ver bad education, health, poverty, extremely dagerous conditions of living... cholera is coming back when it dissapeared a lont time ago... why? IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!

Look at our beach google: Los Roques, Margarita.. l
ook at our forests; Angels falls, Auyantepuy, la Gran Sabana, Piedra del Cocuy,
look at our deserts: Medanos de Coro,
look at our peaks: Merida, Sierra Nevada, Pico Bolivar,
Look at our rivers: Rio orinoco, Rio Amazonas,
Look at it!


IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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MUCHAS GRACIAS AMIGO!

THE TRUTH IN ATS IS COMING

IM PROUD OF MY FELLOW FRIENDS HERE


3 YEARS AGO I was fighting this place because after the imbecile saying that "Smells like sulfur" becauase of the Devil Bush....... EVERYONE APPLAUD HERE LIKE SEALS





oh man......... I said to myself that imbecile is a clever one... he knew what he had to do to get the people on his side.....



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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IM JUST GOING TO STARE AT YOUR DEEPLY INTENSE AND INFINITE IGNORANCE

cia


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people they were snipers from VENEZUELA where else? it was called Plan Aguila, looked at it..

man, I know its true because I KNOW PEOPLE OIN THE ARMY WHO WERE PART OF THIS # OKAY???? so it was him PLAN AGUILA. He said I now say to rpoceed to plan Aguila and then he went for three hours on television, on every channel! so you coudlnt see what happened... and what did the tv channels did!? The split the image between wha was going on in Caracas and the BS he was taking at that precise moment..,

LOOK FOR IT!!!! I LIVED IT I WAS THERE!



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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I ADVICE THE SAME TO YOU!
AND MAYBE GET A TICKET AND VISIT THE COMMUNIST COUNTRIES BECAUSE BOOKS DONT TELL STORIES LIKE FLESH CAN!



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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reply to post by SkurkNilsen
 


really?

Please go to Venezuela. I invite you specially for education.

Let me see, you casn come and I camn tell you were to go and see for youself.. in fact let me know when you will come and I can be your personal guide for free and I can even give you accomodation for free.

ALL IN THE NAME OF A "I know everything" YANKEE KNOWING MY COUNTRY

Amen!

No Jokes

I am dead serious



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 10:12 PM
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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by azulejo
reply to post by Char-Lee
 


SOCIALISM?

I WISH!
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At leats then we would have free health and free education... and good subsidised transport! We do have health but its CRAP! NO ONE! USES THE HOSPITAL pfffffff! You get a life insurance in your job and if not you save the last penny you can and if not unfortunately you need a hospital but you will need to complain and complain and complain to get you in the list.

Imagine.. I worked in the hospital voluntary and I was there with sick kids entertain them before going to surgery because if their lips (you know that lip condition) and it was founded by PRIVITE organisation.. not by Chavez..

The eductaion is the worst I have seen

the so called "Ribas mision" were you can get a high shcool diploma in 8 months... 8 months????????? what did you learn????????? what I learned in 12 years?????????? IMPOSSIBLE! Thats a way to brainwashed people with stupid communist ideas Im sorry and its not even communist people its worst... its really a sect.. its crazy and Chavez is god... What are you going to get in 8 months? A job? as what a lawyer? These are not methods to teach anyone anything and its pure evil because it gives people hope!


We have also a lot of Iranians aaaaaaaaaaaaah we have Uranium, did you know that for those all crazy about Iran and its nuclear blah blah... well thats why these two crazy crazies are friends!
Hows your eye now?


Sorry my way of writing is not educated and plite like the British taught me and Im sorry if it is hard to follow but I am
by this post and some of the answers...


Your complaints do not sound that different then the complaints heard of all people around the world no mater what government they have to struggle under!



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by Sharpenmycleats
reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
 



Man I was really believing your post until you said, "Yeah, I damn well think government is a lot more efficient than leaving things up to corporations and the private sector. Got a problem with that?"

Wells let's look at a few businesses the government in the US runs,
Metro - broke
Sound transit - 4+ billion in debt
Post office - 4+ billion in debt
Social Security - broke ( for years gov denied that the actual money collected had been spent)
Medicaid - broke and unsustainable without changes.
Us government 15 trillion in debt
Many US cities either running a deficit or they are damn near bankrupt.

Now I could dig up a lot of sources here, but I think you see my point. They are far from efficient. Now I also recognize very profitable companies like UPS don't have to deliver to everyone....but?

Government entities have monopolies, they have a steady income stream but yet can never make ends meet. In the private sector those ingredients lead to leadership changes. Not in government. You get a pay raise and if you fail bad enough promoted to a cushy overseas job at an embassy being a foreign diplomat.

edit on 2-2-2012 by Sharpenmycleats because: (no reason given)


And you think that when I say "government" that I mean US government? US government is run by corporations, and specifically sucks at taking care of society so corporations can take over government roles.

When I say government in a general sense, that's what I mean. I don't pay thousands of dollars to study political science in a non-US country as a non-US citizen so my definition of government can automatically mean "US government"



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 04:30 AM
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There's a fairly simple reason why Chavez is demonised in Washington. Psychopaths do not like it when non-psychopaths make it into political office. It makes them look bad, by revealing their lies and inverted morality for what they are.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by Char-Lee
Your complaints do not sound that different then the complaints heard of all people around the world no mater what government they have to struggle under!


No, they really dont, do they?

He has lived in Venezuela, Canada and the UK. Im pretty sure in at least a couple of his messages he said how much he enjoyed not having to fear being out in public after certain hours for fear of theft or arrest. He seems to be indicating things are MUCH worse at home in Venezuela, much im sure the chargrin of the Chavez defenders here.

But think what you want to think.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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Thank you for your posts.

Its nice to get the perspective of someone who has been there and seen the dark side of Chavez up close and personal. Hopefully you can talk some sense into those here wearing rose colored glassed and being oh so very fond of Chavez and his country ruining policies.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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so, exactly? I dont disagree with you and Im not victimising myself or thinking that my needs are above anyone else.


I am sayign that it is wrong to think that this Chavez is a godo persxon who wants the best for Venezuelans. Period that was my point.



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