Gabrielle Giffords Shooting

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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:38 PM
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Each and every one of his posts were writen carefully. There is a VERY common theme in his writing, and little to zero spelling errors. Dont be decieved into analysing it, its all b.s written by a professional.




posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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As you can see,
I learned a long time ago,
is he sane or not.
Jared has not even reached,
the Supreme Court yet.
We have years, a lifetime for some.
To discuss this, and its outcome.
I have watched people hate,
and cry only to
be buried,
and never know the outcome.

The Truth from
those that lived
to watch,
what we call justice.

GMoney
2/2/12



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by revolutionphase1
reply to post by somerandomuser
 


Each and every one of his posts were writen carefully. There is a VERY common theme in his writing, and little to zero spelling errors. Dont be decieved into analysing it, its all b.s written by a professional.


There is a different explanation, have a read through one of Deepthought's articles on Jared:

deepthought.newsvine.com...

He found the language strange too.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 10:02 PM
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Very good shooting especially if under stress but with a packed crowd and his shots over-penetrating its certainly possible, close up, leaving little time for reacting

how does someone survive a hollow point to the head, @ almost point blank
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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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I don't believe for one minute Gabrielle Giffords shooting was a elaborate government hoax that used actors to portray the victims..Mrs Giffords had nothing to gain from this ..Loughner is nothing but a deranged wacko this rumor is based on the words of a madman..Loughner did end the lives of a federal judge, a 9-year-old girl and four others plus Gabrielle Giffords will always have some kind of speech difficulty, and possibly some weakness on the right side.My prayers go out to Gabrielle Giffords,to her family and to the famiies that lost loved ones in this shooting. peace,sugarcookie1



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by sugarcookie1
I don't believe for one minute Gabrielle Giffords shooting was a elaborate government hoax that used actors to portray the victims..Mrs Giffords had nothing to gain from this ..Loughner is nothing but a deranged wacko this rumor is based on the words of a madman..Loughner did end the lives of a federal judge, a 9-year-old girl and four others plus Gabrielle Giffords will always have some kind of speech difficulty, and possibly some weakness on the right side.My prayers go out to Gabrielle Giffords,to her family and to the famiies that lost loved ones in this shooting. peace,sugarcookie1


Agreed.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by sugarcookie1
I don't believe for one minute Gabrielle Giffords shooting was a elaborate government hoax that used actors to portray the victims..


Look at the evidence. She's way too healthy to have been shot in the brain last year.
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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 12:20 AM
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excellent observation ~!

I would love it if you could expound on your skills in this field..



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by revolutionphase1

Originally posted by sugarcookie1
I don't believe for one minute Gabrielle Giffords shooting was a elaborate government hoax that used actors to portray the victims..


Well...it was. Look at the evidence. She's way too healthy to have been shot in the brain last year.


Brain injuries are complex. It all depends how much brain matter was destroyed in the shooting. See this:




posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by WaffleBear
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Very good shooting especially if under stress but with a packed crowd and his shots over-penetrating its certainly possible, close up, leaving little time for reacting

how does someone survive a hollow point to the head, @ almost point blank
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AGREED~!! as it went clear through the brain~! now, I personally know of someone that attempted suicide by .44cal handgun, up through the chin but, by the grace of God, it went out their cheek,

If it was hollow point, I seriously doubt he would even be alive, since Hollow points are designed to 'mushroom' after impact and as they enter, they will cause massive ripping and tearing ie. a bigger wound channel



So either, she got hit with a normal/round nose or it was an HP ...............cuz' if it was an HP at near point blank........something aint right..



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 12:33 AM
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see my post above this one..

hmmmm..

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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by sugarcookie1
I don't believe for one minute Gabrielle Giffords shooting was a elaborate government hoax that used actors to portray the victims..Mrs Giffords had nothing to gain from this ..Loughner is nothing but a deranged wacko this rumor is based on the words of a madman..Loughner did end the lives of a federal judge, a 9-year-old girl and four others plus Gabrielle Giffords will always have some kind of speech difficulty, and possibly some weakness on the right side.My prayers go out to Gabrielle Giffords,to her family and to the families that lost loved ones in this shooting. peace,sugarcookie1


i don't believe the OP stated that GG wanted to gain something from this at all, rather, someone else with an agenda definitely needed her out of the way; and I'm assuming the OP's heart goes out to her family as well as we all do, and it's an American outrage without a doubt, however, some things OP has noticed aren't matching up with the official story...

which we've seen already in this country.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by revolutionphase1

Originally posted by sugarcookie1
I don't believe for one minute Gabrielle Giffords shooting was a elaborate government hoax that used actors to portray the victims..


Look at the evidence. She's way too healthy to have been shot in the brain last year.
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especially by a hollow point, if that is what the report stated..

below is demo of hollow point


which .. I haven't see the official report yet.. is there one posted ?? I would think there would be .. wouldn't there be ?? with a state/gov seal on it??
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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 12:47 AM
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Yeah.. I don't think he lasted long here. People weren't really talking to him as much as telling him he was crazy/get help. I think the moved on to more extreme sites pretty quickly.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 12:48 AM
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When he was in court and they told him she was alive didn't he freak out and say he knew she was dead and that he had saw her shot in the head? Like he thought they were playing a trick on him to mess with his mind. I guess it kind of would because, let's face it, surviving that shot is a miracle.



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 12:49 AM
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I did look at evidence she looks very frail ,she has a hard time with speech ‘She just can’t locate all the words in her mind.’”also her gait is off and she has a hard time walking without support she is very tipsy all very typical for brain trauma..Im not hear to argue with you friend im just give you my point of view ..And my point of view is there is no conspiracy its BS..But i do appreciate your point of view on the subject but i just don't agree..peace sugarcookie1



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 01:03 AM
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I really don't think there is any kind of conspiracy concerning what happened. It happened as stated and I really don't think there is anything weird about rubberneckers having snacks. They are behind police lines. What do you think is weird about that?



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 01:17 AM
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Witnesses said the gunman shot Giffords at point blank range through the head and then continued firing

source

wow.. interesting points made here

Was there any police security at the Gabrielle Giffords event, ‘Congress on Your Corner’ at Safeway? If there were any police officers present, nobody knows about it … and the official release from the Pima County Sheriff’s office reports that the first deputy arrived at 10:15 a.m. — about three minutes after the first 9-1-1 call. The response by police and firefighter/paramedics was superb, but what about preventive security measures. With all the ‘vitriol’ and threats that were known, why were there no police officers or sheriff’s deputies on the scene at the event as a precaution.

~The question that begs for an answer is how could the local police and/or the Pima County Sheriff not have the prescience and forethought to provide security detail for the congresswoman’s event? The Cardinal called a local business at the intersection of Oracle and Ina and asked what police agency responds to calls for help at the business: The answer was the Pima County Sheriff’s Police. The Safeway store didn’t answer their phone because, as of Tuesday morning, the store wasn’t open yet because of the ongoing investigation. But the assumption is that the police jurisdiction at the Safeway Store parking lot is the responsibility of the Pima County Sheriff’s Department.

~By his own admission and statement after the shooting tragedy, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik seems to have been aware that security risks existed.

~Both Giffords and Grijalva have received several threats during their political careers for stances on immigration and health care reform. Last year someone shot a gun at Grijalva’s Arizona office, and he was sent a toxic white powder in the mail. The front door to the Tucson district office of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) was shattered in an incident of vandalism after the House debated the health bill for final passage on the weekend of March 20-21, 2010.

~More than 100 House Democrats met behind closed doors Wednesday, afternoon, March 24, 2010 with representatives of the FBI and the U.S. Capitol Police. The lawmakers voiced “serious concern” about their security in Washington and in their home districts where they were to return the following weekend for the spring recess.

~But Sheriff Dupnik blames the shooting on politics. It seems a little simple police security detail could have prevented some or all of the deaths and injuries in northwest Tucson on Saturday, January 8, 2011.
sou rce



posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by revolutionphase1

Originally posted by sugarcookie1
I don't believe for one minute Gabrielle Giffords shooting was a elaborate government hoax that used actors to portray the victims..


Look at the evidence. She's way too healthy to have been shot in the brain last year.
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Once in surgery, neurosurgeons removed bone fragments, worked to stop the bleeding, and then performed an operation called a decompressive hemicraniotomy. The procedure, which has become popular in the past decade or so, especially in the context of battlefield brain injuries, entails the removal of a portion of the skull to allow room for the brain to swell. Brain swelling creates increased pressure inside the cranium, and if part of the bone is not removed the pressure disrupts a vital differential between blood pressure and the pressure in the brain. When it comes to swelling, Black explains, "minutes count," and the fact that the pressure in her brain was relieved so quickly is essential to her relatively positive prognosis.

www.scientificamerican.com...

She received surgery in 38 minutes from arrival at the hospital. Evidence that time is crucial to healing injury.
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posted on Feb, 3 2012 @ 01:38 AM
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ok .. well... i just blew an hour attempting to find the offical police report on this..

Good luck trying to find one, especially on the Pima County Sheriff's Department

I'm not an expert at Google searching .. but I used 2 different types of phrases to try and get somewhere.. but not luck.. I wanted to see if the police stated she actually was shot at point blank range; witnesses said she was according to one new agency.
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