Hawaii to Vote - Join Japan or Stay United States state, page 2

The OP is probably referring to an article by Phyllis Schlafly. I have attached a link to it. She writes, "Does Hawaii want to secede from the Union? That sounds like a preposterous question, but the official Office of Hawaiian Affairs advertises on its website that the legislation scheduled to be voted on soon in the U.S. Senate will give Native Hawaiians "self-determination" to choose "total independence" or any other form of government."

She claims she is not making this up. However, there is no mention of Japan.

www.eagleforum.org...

Here is the link to the Office of Hawaiian Affairs bill signing article.
www.oha.org...

reply to post by Sharpenmycleats

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That article is about a state law recognizing Hawaiians as Hawaii's only indigenous people.

The federal bill which has been submitted off and on since 2000 would give Hawaiians a status similar to that of Native Americans.

reply to post by ballisticmousse

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WIth America still in deep recession and Japan offering big cash bonuses, it look likely that Sarkozy's plan that had to Obama accepte, to allow Hawaii the vote on whether to leave the USA and join Japan will result in the States shrinking by one state.

I don't understand where Sarkozy fits in with this. How would France think that they had a say in any business of the USA? That doesn't make any sense.

reply to post by ballisticmousse

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I believe I understand the hypothetical you're proposing in order to point out the insult to Britain in the Falklands. Besides, taking a vote to secede? We had to use a revolution and a civil war to get those results.

I do wish the Brits hadn't cut back their military so drastically. They could use some marines and ships in that part of the world.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Sharpenmycleats

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That article is about a state law recognizing Hawaiians as Hawaii's only indigenous people.

The federal bill which has been submitted off and on since 2000 would give Hawaiians a status similar to that of Native Americans.

Well in order to have a federal bill passed recognizing an idigenous Hawaiian, you have to define what an indigenous Hawaiian is. The difference if you read some of my links, you would realize that it is way different than that of Native Americans. We gave them reservations, and they have self rule on those reservations, what Hawaiians want is self governance and autonomy no matter where they are in the US. They basically want Diplomatic Immunity.

At any rate, I think we are talking about the same thing and the article I posted was one of many if you hit the search button on the link I provided. The state bill I showed does speak about the federal bill which is why I posted it and then if you follow the votes after that you will see them pushing for federal recognition for self governance anywhere. I can't do all your homework.

Plus the real reason I put that info out there was everyone seemed to be ripping on the OP about sources and facts. Now I was not able to back up his thread completely but I did shine some light on the topic that shows the OP is not totally in la-la land.

Originally posted by ballisticmousse
reply to post by sonnny1

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My whole point is how you, an America, would feel if France was able o force America, weakened by staggering defence cuts, internal strife and economic collapse to hold a referendum in which Hawaii citizens were pressured and bribed into ceding from the US so they could be sold off to Japan.

My whole point is that the Red Coats have no business holding any territory in the Western hemisphere. Heck I think all Red Coats owned land and businesses in the USA should be seized(and view the gulf spill as a direct act of war against the USA by the Red Coats) as it is an affront for any red coat to own an inch of American soil or rape our precious nation of it's natural resources.

The Red Coats are the singularly largest threat to American sovereignty, prosperity and posterity. And such a threat must be dealt with. Obama would be wise to use the Malvinas crisis to end political, economic and military relations with the Red Coats.

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