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CDC Says Delay Breastfeeding To Boost Vaccines!

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posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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Ok before some of you wonder, I wrote the shorter version as this is the original.

Inhibitory effect of breast milk on infectivity of live oral rotavirus vaccines.


And that wouldn't fit. I will be adding the medical info with very difficult for many to understand terminology of this, and the laymen's version. Your welcome


First my stance on this is crystal clear, as I have even written in a thread not to long ago that breast milk in many countries is the ONLY way that newborns are fed.

Here is a bit from that.
COMMERCIAL PRODUCTION OF ARTIFICIAL BABY MILK (ABM)

Before the arrival of free market practices in the USSR, Czechoslovakia, the German Democratic Republic, and Hungary required a prescription for infant formula. Since 1977, Papua New Guinea requires "that baby feeding bottles, teats (nipples) and dummies (pacifiers) be sold at registered pharmacies and obtained only through medical prescription. Said prescription 'cannot be given unless the authorized health worker is satisfied that it would be in the best interest of the baby or infant.' The law was amended in 1984 to empower the Minister of Health to proscribe any feeding article considered hazardous to the health and well-being of infants (email communication, James Akre, Nutrition Unit, WHO, Geneva 12/12/95)." To encourage breastfeeding, China banned all artificial baby milk advertisements, giveaways, money and/or information to clinics and hospitals. The law effective October 1, 1995, also bans the distribution of free or discounted artificial baby milk to mothers (AP 7/4/95). In January 1996, the ministry of commerce in Saudi Arabia announced a blanket ban on all advertisement for breast milk substitutes.

www.lactationconsultant.info...

Ok, so now we know the importance of breast milk. Even breastfeeding for a week can drastically help your child for a lifetime.

NOW HOW ABOUT THIS ONE???

CDC Researchers Say Mothers Should Stop Breastfeeding To Boost Efficiency in Vaccines.

The CDC researchers began their investigation by searching for answers as to why children from underdeveloped countries typically do not respond as well to the live oral rotavirus vaccine as children in developed countries typically do.



They came to the conclusion that breastmilk, which is packed with,

immune-building immunoglobulin A (IgA)

lactoferrin

lysozyme,

...and various other important immune factors, inhibits the vaccine from working.

Breastmilk, of course, is a young child's lifeline. It naturally builds immunity during childhood development, and provides perfect and balanced nutrition necessary for human growth.



Withholding breastmilk in order to accommodate the rotavirus vaccine, as the CDC researchers suggest, is an absolutely insane notion that will deprive children of vital nutrition and proper immune development.

But it is ludicrous notions like these that are birthed from philosophies that view drugs and vaccines as being equal, or even superior, to natural food. Oral rotavirus vaccines contain live viruses, they have questionable efficacy to begin with, and they are even known to cause rotavirus. They are also linked to causing a variety of negative side effects, including diarrhea, which is a condition the vaccine is supposed to prevent!

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Here is there answer to this one.
Inhibitory effect of breast milk on infectivity of live oral rotavirus vaccines.

BACKGROUND: Live oral rotavirus vaccines have been less immunogenic and efficacious among children in poor developing countries compared with middle income and industrialized countries for reasons that are not yet completely understood. We assessed whether the neutralizing activity of breast milk could lower the titer of vaccine virus and explain this difference in vitro.

METHODS: Breast milk samples were collected from mothers who were breast-feeding infants 4 to 29 weeks of age (ie, vaccine eligible age) in India (N = 40), Vietnam (N = 77), South Korea (N = 34), and the United States (N = 51). We examined breast milk for rotavirus-specific IgA and neutralizing activity against 3 rotavirus vaccine strains-RV1, RV5 G1, and 116E using enzyme immunoassays. The inhibitory effect of breast milk on RV1 was further examined by a plaque reduction assay.

FINDINGS: Breast milk from Indian women had the highest IgA and neutralizing titers against all 3 vaccine strains, while lower but comparable median IgA and neutralizing titers were detected in breast milk from Korean and Vietnamese women, and the lowest titers were seen in American women. Neutralizing activity was greatest against the 2 vaccine strains of human origin, RV1 and 116E. This neutralizing activity in one half of the breast milk specimens from Indian women could reduce the effective titer of RV1 by ∼2 logs, of 116E by 1.5 logs, and RV5 G1 strain by ∼1 log more than that of breast milk from American women.

INTERPRETATION: The lower immunogenicity and efficacy of rotavirus vaccines in poor developing countries could be explained, in part, by higher titers of IgA and neutralizing activity in breast milk consumed by their infants at the time of immunization that could effectively reduce the potency of the vaccine. Strategies to overcome this negative effect, such as delaying breast-feeding at the time of immunization, should be evaluated.

ukpmc.ac.uk...=0;jsessionid=ElOlv1aHKUpajDS0jIj6.106#fragment-related-pubmedarts

When will this end. Are we seriously just going to let them destroy children more then before? We didn't want to raise our children so we allowed the government to intervene, now that they have, and big pharma got involved, excluding them is illegal. We allowed then to drug our kids, promote aspartame, allow that FDA to become the federal regulators of crap, and on... and on.

We seriously have to think this one through.

Peace, NRE.




posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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Did you know that you can survive off of only breast milk and nothing else.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 09:02 PM
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You can't 'delay breastfeeding' If you don't breastfeed the milk stops being produced.

If I was to believe most of what I read on ATS I would suggest that :

A Big business wants to sell more baby formula. and
B Baby formula is a good way to put all sorts of muck in the food supply.


This study must of been completed by men! Stupid men at that.

P)



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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I would not believe the CDC on this. Mothers milk (Colostrum) is the best thing baby can get at an early age, not some mercury containing cocktail of who knows what.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 09:19 PM
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Wow. Some of the ideas that these agencies come up with are utterly insane!

Plus, that the women from developing countries, are usually poor, and their breast milk is what their babies are living on.

To suggest that it be delayed, that isn't even possible. The mom will just dry up! The mother's milk gives immunity for far longer than any vaccine, and for so much more. With zero side effects.
Absolute insanity.
I have no more, I'm speechless.
:shk:



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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There is an odd balance between needing to breastfeed your child and needing to properly vaccinate them. While Vaccinations may be hindered by breastfeeding and receiving immune system boosts that dull the vaccination, I think you could get past this issue if you got your child vaccinated and breast fed them without interrupting that time to get them vaccinated later, your child gets the best of both worlds.

Since some people have problems with vaccinating their children, they might be endangering them merely because of a natural instinct to protect them. That's probably bad, herd immunity might be a good thing, however if that child does have a different set of immune system factors perhaps they would be better off not following the Herd; the herd protects them, perhaps from some of the diseases they were not vaccinated against.

The herd .... I mean school of kids might also benefit later from the non vaccinated one who has a different immune system and reacted differently than the other children to any later disease epidemic; perhaps without a vaccination they carry with them a chance at beating an unknown disease in the future, but only if that disease erupts could we be sure.

While I understand some people have issues with vaccination, I'd urge you to get them for your child, someone who doesn't have a vaccination could be a life-saving miracle later. But that does put a target on their back for anyone who wants the epidemic to be a religious even that destroys mankind.

This scenario is unlikely, but then again we live on a giant rock near a huge fireball.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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The mothers breast milk has anti-bodies that give the child the same protection as the mother, at least for the first 6 weeks of life from what I understand.


www.breastfeedingonline.com... :


Doctors have long known that infants who are breast-fed contract fewer infections than do those who are given formula. Mother's milk actively helps newborns avoid disease in a variety of ways. Such assistance is particularly beneficial during the first few months of life, when an infant often cannot mount an effective immune response against foreign organisms.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 12:59 AM
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This is incredibly dangerous and foolish advice coming from the CDC, and no doubt to tell sell more of that lucid baby formula scam!

Humans have been breastfeeding since the beginning of our existence as a species, to stop that is ignorant and could cause huge problems for future generations.

Feeding on breast milk helps build the core of our immune system and prevents many health conditions devoting later on. It’s possible that by not giving breast milk the body could substitute the vaccines as a sort of false immune system and not develop its own.

I really hope no parents do what they are asking and do what we as humans have evolved to do over millions of years.
Like a lot of things we do in modern life including taking vaccines, there has been no proper testing done to tell us what problems baby formula could hold for future generations; and with the amount of dangerous habitats we have taken on in the last century it’s the future generations who are going to suffer.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 01:24 AM
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There are plenty of ways that those who are commending this can make those that are unaware susceptible to it. This is the way that it has been for quite a long time, and will probably have an affect for future generations the way that breastfeeding did for the past.

We will soon have a new lifestyle if we dont make people aware now.

Peace, NRE.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 01:48 AM
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it sounds to me like they need to delay IMMUNIZATIONS.

This is stupid to me.
BUT, a lot of things about Americans and breastfeeding seems stupid to me.

I breastfed my child from the start, until he self weaned at about 18 months old. He was always healthy, and, unlike me, he had a beautiful well-developed jaw and set of teeth and didn't need braces. When he was 5 or 6 and I took him to the audiologist, he said that he had perfectly patent eustation tubes, and that he rarely sees that in children anymore and asked me if he breastfed for a while. I told him, and he said "that does it, if more women would breast fed, we'd have a lot healthier ears and babies."

I watched a friend decide to breastfeed, then change her mind because HER HUSBAND was afraid it would ruin her chest. Then their baby was allergic to every formula known to mankind and was in the hospital and on all sorts of medications. I saw my poor relative, who's mom just gave him away to another relative, and he had such horrible ear problems - and wears hearing aids now - at 15!

So that's just stupid to me. How many babies die from malnutrition, diseases that the mother's milk would have protected them from, diarhea, allergies,respiratory and ear infections, ect?
Don't they WEIGH these things considering HEALTH?
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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 03:24 AM
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I have a granddaughter who turned three in November that was breast fed... She never had bottled formula and went from breast feeding to drinking from a cup... She has learned to swim and can go for hours jumping into a pool, swim across pulling herself out on the side of the pool and repeating... She is also doing gymnastics and begging to take karate.... She learned the alphabet, how to write the letters and what sounds they made all before she reached three... She just came down with chicken pox but it doesn't bother her.. She has been climbing trees for over 6 months and is fearless... She actually has muscles that are visible and can carry on a decent conversation.... I can't help but think that being breast fed has had a lot to do with her being as healthy, intelligent and confident as she is...



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 04:28 AM
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I have a daughter who turned three in November that was formula fed... She was never breast fed and went from bottle feeding to drinking from a cup... She has learned to swim and can go for hours jumping into a pool, swim across pulling herself out on the side of the pool and repeating... She is also doing dancing and beginning to take singing.... She learned the alphabet, how to write her name and recognised numbers all before she reached three... She has never had chicken pox but it doesn't bother her.. She has been climbing trees for over 6 months and is fearless... She actually does not have muscles that are visible but can carry on a decent conversation (she does not stop talking).... I certainly don't think that being bottle fed has had a lot to do with her being as healthy, intelligent and confident as she is...

just saying, I do not recommend baby formula over breast feeding but sometimes parents have no choice but to feed with formula and its not the end of your child as some make it out to be. For the record i am 33 am not allergic to anything and have never had anything but colds and flu and tummy bugs and i was never breast fed.

Also on topic, stupid advice as others have mentioned due to breast milk not coming in if feeding is delayed.
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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 04:33 AM
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I have suspected for a long time that it could even be a case of the early vaccines overloading a babies naturally developing immune system that is causing a lot of the afflictions we see in children today. Not that you'd ever read that from the MSM or government, when there is money to be made!

So, maybe they won't be happy until they take full control of the entire reproductive process from start to finish, and maybe even take the parents out of the picture altogether?

Here's a rather (to me anyway) disturbing piece I found the other day. It would fit right in with the idea of post birth vaccinations too. Hell, why even wait until they are out of the womb (or lab) before filling the babies with junk.

Read this and see if it gives you ther shivers as it did to me!

www.bioedge.org...


Here is contrarian bioethics at its best. Pregnancy and childbirth are so painful, risky and socially restrictive for women that public funding should urgently be directed to the development of artificial wombs. This is the only way to achieve true equality between men and women for then neither women nor men would then be limited by having children and the burdens of reproducing the species would be shared equally.


....and we, the taxpayers, fund this stuff?



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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I wanted to give this a bump, as I am not going to be able to response till later.

Important info.

Peace, NRE.



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