The Phobos-Grunt mission was originally supposed to be launched in 2009. They delayed the launch until 2011. If they missed this launch window, they would have to wait until 2 years for the next one.

I'm guessing that Phobos-Grunt was killed by management. They could not contemplate a second aborted launch. They cut corners, purchased low-cost, inferior parts and rushed to launch. I guess the management now thinks "Well, we met our deadline, it's someone else’s problem now". I see this all the time where I work, the MBAs meet their timelines and don't really care about the final product.

Originally posted by Nicolas Flamel
The Phobos-Grunt mission was originally supposed to be launched in 2009. They delayed the launch until 2011. If they missed this launch window, they would have to wait until 2 years for the next one.

I'm guessing that Phobos-Grunt was killed by management. They could not contemplate a second aborted launch. They cut corners, purchased low-cost, inferior parts and rushed to launch. I guess the management now thinks "Well, we met our deadline, it's someone else’s problem now". I see this all the time where I work, the MBAs meet their timelines and don't really care about the final product.

Plausible, very plausible. Still kinda strange they fail 17 times in a row without what seems any thought of implementing some kind of quality control/improvement mechanisms to stop these kind of mishaps to happen over and over again... don´t you think?

Originally posted by Nicolas Flamel
The Phobos-Grunt mission was originally supposed to be launched in 2009. They delayed the launch until 2011. If they missed this launch window, they would have to wait until 2 years for the next one.

I'm guessing that Phobos-Grunt was killed by management. They could not contemplate a second aborted launch. They cut corners, purchased low-cost, inferior parts and rushed to launch. I guess the management now thinks "Well, we met our deadline, it's someone else’s problem now". I see this all the time where I work, the MBAs meet their timelines and don't really care about the final product.

Dismantling the empire works. The future of Mars missions (obviously) are companies with red logos, that is why educated morons come to the threads and talk about how government "can't" do it (sarcasm).

Because government could never do it, especially not government whose controllers have bankrupted them on European central bank policies. Basic infrastructure requires thinking beyond the "money-system" that is why it has made all space missions now, like Phobos-Grunt a miracle.

I hate to say it but maybe Russia should outsource their next Mars mission to NASA. We are using them to get to low earth orbit perhaps they could pay us to get them to Mars. /Shrug. Best thing humanity could do is combine resources and do it together.

Originally posted by Xeven
I hate to say it but maybe Russia should outsource their next Mars mission to NASA. We are using them to get to low earth orbit perhaps they could pay us to get them to Mars. /Shrug. Best thing humanity could do is combine resources and do it together.

The crashed disks and the witnesses have not EVER reported a company logo. If extraterrestrials have common sense not to allow companies to do things (because of incompetence) why are Earthlings so moronic to believe corporations have the ability to produce a miracle. You think drinking coke out of a bottle is a miracle, then, you need a counselor (this is not unrelated subject matter.)

People are idiots..
Russians have failed some 17 odd missions to Mars[or close by]
and people are surprised that they've failed yet again.

Originally posted by Xeven
I hate to say it but maybe Russia should outsource their next Mars mission to NASA. We are using them to get to low earth orbit perhaps they could pay us to get them to Mars. /Shrug. Best thing humanity could do is combine resources and do it together.

Not gonna happen Obama told NASA NO to going back to the Moon and no Mars for 25 years. And NASA is not allowed to take corporate funding. That is why Russia runs the ads for Pizza Hut, Lego, Radio Shack and Popular Science and charges 20 miilion a pop for 10 days on the ISS

So yeah its likely HAARP radiation, US Particle Beams in Space or ticked off Aliens sabotaging the Ruskies... because up until NASA canned the space shuttle Russia was doing very well with launches. Now suddenly one failure after another?

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