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Romney: "I'm Not Concerned About the Very Poor"

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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by jjkenobi
I don't have a problem with what Romney said. If anything the poor have TOO MANY safety nets. What is harder, sitting back and collecting gobs of benefits (welfare, food stamps, housing, cell phones, too many to list) or getting your butt up and going to work everyday?

Anyways if Obama cares about the poor it apparently isn't how you think he cares. It would appear by the numbers Obama wants more people to be poor, and therefore dependent on the govt.



Measured by total numbers, the 46 million now living in poverty is the largest on record dating back to when the census began tracking poverty in 1959. Based on percentages, it tied the poverty level in 1993 and was the highest since 1983.
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HELLO EARTH TO KENOBI, there are no jobs! the people with college degrees are working at mcdonalds!
hello hello, princess leia here, help me obi wan kenobi, stop living in the 1980s



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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:34 AM
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Well. Romney is actually right. We do have a safety net but it's existance keeps getting nibbled away by budget cuts and the rise in food and shelter prices. Our countries perception of inflation is getting distorted to include technology instead of the basics of life. Why are people building homes for the poor when we can repair some of the houses cheaply that have been forclosed on and supply them to the needy. Poor people don't need new houses, they need affordable housing. I had to work hard to get my house and built it myself. People appreciate things more if they put a little of themselves into it. I see people buying homes that are all fixed up and changing them so they are an extension of themselves. This makes you're house into a home. Something that you have personal pride in. People need food and shelter, social interaction with those of their kind, and something to do to use up energy. We need jobs. We need to teach kids in school that we don't need to have the most prestigious jobs, that any job where we can earn a living is acceptable. You are not an outcast from society if you do not go to college, there is a place in this country for everyone. Many people acquire big debt going to college only to find that they don't like doing what they have been taught. Now they are overqualified to get a job as a secretary or construction worker and cannot get a job. They no longer fit in with the workers of the trades and are stuck taking a job at Walmart. I don't feel that there is anything wrong with working at Walmart, but the person who has spent 30,000 on college thinks he is better than the job. They do not feel good about themselves and that turns into depression. If this is you, Toss out that depression and have fun at you're job. All jobs should be considered just as important in this society. All we really need is food on the table, shelter and heat, something productive to do, and a good attitude. We don't need 180 channels on the TV and the biggest TV available. We don't need unlimited text on our phones, we need more social interaction. People don't have to hide behind annonymosity because they fear not being good enough. People need to let go of their inhabition but retain their morals at the same time. There's no reason to steal or con others. It just makes you feel less of yourself deep down inside. Learn from you're mistakes, don't try to justify them with more false perceptions. Quit buying things you don't need just to make yourself look better to others. This applies to the rich and poor. Under our present Economy, those who have money waste money and create jobs. For some stupid reason this has filtered down to be a required perception of the low and lower middle class.
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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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i'm concerned that all this stuff about safety nets, is an attempt to drive the bulk of the people of the usa into abject poverty, beyond what any of us are accustomed to. might've worked out better, had it been caught earlier in our history, and had the caucasian population gotten over their prejudices way back when, and had the black population gotten over theirs way back when, this would've been resolved. but it didnt work out that way and left a huge portion of our population at a huge disadvantage. something had to be done and so it was. none of this would've happened had people learned back then, to stop blaming people for crap they didn't do or did when they were kids or viewing other human beings as profiles and stereotypes. yet, here we are 100 years later, and the problem just keeps getting worse. and now they want to pull the rug, after all this time? they must be joking.
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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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In all honestly I somewhat support what Romney said and this is why:

There are social safety nets such as temporary unemployment and help out there (Ex: Homeless shelters, facilities helping people find work,etc) for people in the lower income brackets. Romney knows that people in this market segmentation will probably not vote for him anyway so why appeal to them; their a small minority for his voting market.

On another note, why should the government have to take care of people who are poor and in the lower tax and income brackets. They generally made poor life choices and its their fault and I dont think we owe them ANYTHING to take care of them. Because I graduated from college, have experience in an industry, built myself into what I am today, and manage my income well I have to pay for these scums who got their GED most likely and work at your local 7-11; that doesnt make sense to me? As an America, its tough seeing people in my generation (people in their 20's) act like they DESERVE something (yes, I am looking at you OWS protestors) when they havent earned it. America needs to wane away from being a welfare state and go back to the old values of the 20th century where taking risk with entrepreneurial adventures paid off and people understood that they had to reap what they sew and that there is no "free lunch". If America doesnt do this, I am scared what it will look like in 30 years....



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by allprowolfy
Just seen on Yahoo, no wonder he is not worried as he is apart of the elite dynasty of nobles and is distant cousins with the Bush family.

Looks like more of the same old autocrats, telling the populace to eat cake


having something doesn't automatically mean you are evil.
it's your personal view of the value and rights of others, that's on trial here. doesn't matter what your financial, racial or religious status is, in the usa, if you are not treated as equally valuable, but instead are held to some invisible fleeting notion of "forgiveness of past sins" that never seems to materialize, you are gonna be upshiets creek without a paddle. this is what i keep trying to tell anonymous supporters. saying WE DON'T FORGET WE DON'T FORGIVE is the entire problem in a nutshell.


Your views have been noted, however, I have never seen nobility-elite, not take care of their own. If you would please show me one time in recorded history that the nobility didn't take care of themselves first then the masses pick up the scraps


And do not put words in my mouth, as there is nothing in my post about them being evil, I was just stating the obvious.

As well, your forgiving bologny, not sure your age, but every candidate becomes a "moderate" during the election. then after the election his/her true nature shows up. thus, the masses say, "I didn't see that one coming?"

Well I do



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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Romney isn't concerned about the very poor. They have no money and therefore can't give him anything.So they can fend for themselves there at the bottom and suffer living in the "safety net". but oh, if it breaks he'll mend it so they can stay there. And he's not concerned about the rich, well, because they are rich and they give him stuff like money to slander Newt with. But the middle class, he's got concerns there because if he plays it just right he can get stuff from them like money for his campaign.


A good answer to the question when asked is this (and Romney didn't say it"

" I'm concerned about every American because in some way we are all joined together in this struggle to free ourselves from this recession and high unemployment. When anyone in America suffers we all suffer with them."

But Romney didn't say that because he misspoke from the heart. So now you now.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:44 AM
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Romneys quote plays right into the hands of the liberal class warfare strategy.

It's over.

Romney will be on defense for the rest of the year.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by DrNotforhire
sounds like it was taken out of context to me....

and I'm not even a Romney Supporter!


I agree. This is the typical liberal method of taking things out of context. I am not a Romney supporter either but I really get sick of their tactics.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by justsaying
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Oh please. I have no idea? really?? you don't even know me so don't make this personal about me. It's about THEM. Don't even get me started on Romney's dog on the roof of his car. I would never vote for him just based on THAT! And by the way, we are each entitled to our own opinions on this site, attacking another poster personally is a violation of terms of agreement. Stick to the topic.


correct, you are clueless on this topic. haven't you figured out yet that isn't about how much money someone else has, it's about how you treat other people? it's about the value you give to other human beings. if your value system is contingent on racial and financial status, then expect them to give it right back to you on a platter.


Obviously YOU don't understand that many people with money treat people without it like they are non viable human beings. They are called SNOBS. This is NOT MY personal choice, it's theirs. I understand the value system of human beings, I am a student nurse, I care. I rescue animals because I care. I don't have much but I give what I can because I care. These republican candidates don't get the plight of everyday life of too many people, they dont see the neglect and abuse of children from parents that can't cope with the stress of life, can't find a better way to deal with their problems. Thats where we as nurses can intervene and steer them to community agencies and support groups to help, just to give an example. It's you and me that are going to make life better for each other, not the guys running for office. If they can't relate they can't understand the pain. I see the stress related conditions every day. Like I said, you don't know anything about me and are asssuming that which you do not understand. If you seriously knew the person I was, there would be no way you would connect your statements to myself.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:50 AM
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i don't agree with pulling the safety net on people.
i don't agree with disenfranchising the poor. i do agree with finding creative alternatives to getting everyone to want to empower themselves, but i don't think a creative alternative is pulling the safety net in a sink or swim scenario. that's homocide, as far as i'm concerned. and if it's moreso for one part of the population than another, it's genocide. and i will not personally sit still as a human being, even if i'm not the same racial, religious or financial bracket and condone the genocide of other human beings. period.

when people use the term "Rich" that draws into its fold, anybody that has money, no matter how they acquired it, even if they worked dang hard their whole life for it. i disagree with inspiring the poor to want to kill that rich guy because he managed to be successful. i disagree with the entire -- success=bad, thing. success=good, provided you did so legitimately. the legitimate part is where the true arguments arise. some people in the world would say our welfare recipients don't deserve their safety nets because the usa pays for it by robbing other nations. you see how that goes?


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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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Welfare can't last forever.

Eventually we'll run out of trees to print Monopoly money with.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by tonycliffs
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Welfare can't last forever.
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it better. there will always be people who need help, for whatever reason. it's a do unto others thing. you know the rest of that quote right?


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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 10:07 AM
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That is unbelievable!!

not that I was going to vote for this guy anyway, I don't know what kind of consequence that statement should have...



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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The US welfare state is atrocious. The poor have never had it so good, especially during this recession/mini depression! As much as I despise Romney, HE'S RIGHT!!! Poor people survive just fine on welfare, through section 8 housing, medicaid, food stamps, social security, EBP cards etc. According to this article, they're doing a helluva lot better than I am when it comes to consumer electronic entertainment items. Most of my money goes to pay for rent, food, and heat because I can't get section 8. You should see some of the properties in my area that allow section 8 and you'd be appalled at how low the rent is. It's the middle class that needs the most help NOW. When the middle class dies off, so does the poor and the rich.

"Forget the image of Appalachia or rundown ghettos: A collection of federal household consumption surveys collected by pollster Scott Rasmussen finds that 74 percent of the poor own a car or truck, 70 percent have a VCR, 64 percent have a DVD, 63 percent have cable or satellite, 53 percent have a video game system, 50 percent have a computer, 30 percent have two or more cars and 23 percent use TiVo."

"“What the government defines as poverty is vastly different from what most Americans envision,” he writes in his newly released book, “The People’s Money.” Consider other details from two recent Department of Agriculture surveys cited in the book:

--On an average day, just 1 percent of households have someone who is forced to miss a meal.

--On any day, children are hungry in .25 percent of U.S. homes.

--96 percent of poor parents say their children were never hungry during the year because they couldn’t afford food.

--83 percent of the poor said they have enough to eat."

campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com...

It must be nice buying alcohol and lap dances at the nudy bar on the public's dime.

"As the recession continues onward, House Republicans are worried that those receiving welfare payments may be having a bit too good of a time.

The chamber will again vote Wednesday on a bill which would ensure that electronic withdrawals of Temporary Assistance for Needy Families dollars aren't allowed to be withdrawn from ATMs at strip clubs, casinos or liquor stores. TANF replaced national welfare programs after the welfare reforms of 1996."

www.usnews.com...



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 10:10 AM
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oh i know how that, been on the receiving end of that many times as well. it's a misnomer to suggest white people are inherently rich or snobbish. it's a misnomer to suggest black people are inherently poor or low brow. that's not remotely true. it's a people thing. i've seen people from all walks of life, financial brackets, religions, genders, races, do that to those they deem inferior and the causes can range from something as irrelevant as choice of music, to the color of your skin or the size of your car or your house. this is a very old problem. it's just more obvious when you're the receipient of it, and it causes you to be hyper aware of it happening after that i know i know! that's what i'm trying to tell ya.. if we don't stop the stereotypes, the marginalizing of each other, these guys are gonna eat us for lunch, and have our kids for dessert.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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Yes I agree with you 100% The middle class is who needs the help and what he said. was right people will just find anything to rant about. The poor have all kinds of things they send thier children to school in name brand clothes and shoes, while buying thier food with food stamps. The middle class is struggling to survive.and put food on the table while the poor are using the middle classes hard earned tax dollars to feed and cloth thier children that they keep having even though they can't afford them! The rich do not need any help. the poor get all kinds of money,health insurance,free housing in the gettho projects. The middle class are becoming poor and needing handouts the middle class needs help and I will be voting for mitt in the primary here in MO. on feb.7th! get mad I DON'T CARE! Newt, keeps getting endorsements from the rich you know whose side he will be on if he gets elected!



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 10:15 AM
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they are buying lap dances at the nudey bar on the public's dime? the economy is too screwed up for that. if they are really getting lap dances they got the money for it some other way, which is afterall, the capitalist dream! earn that money, spend it how ya want.
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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by TropicKandie
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Yes I agree with you 100% The middle class is who needs the help and what he said. was right people will just find anything to rant about. The poor have all kinds of things they send thier children to school in name brand clothes and shoes, while buying thier food with food stamps. The middle class is struggling to survive.and put food on the table while the poor are using the middle classes hard earned tax dollars to feed and cloth thier children that they keep having even though they can't afford them! The rich do not need any help. the poor get all kinds of money,health insurance,free housing in the gettho projects. The middle class are becoming poor and needing handouts the middle class needs help and I will be voting for mitt in the primary here in MO. on feb.7th! get mad I DON'T CARE! Newt, keeps getting endorsements from the rich you know whose side he will be on if he gets elected!


they bought the name brand stuff second hand or someone gave it to them or they have alternate ways of making money to subsidize their income. they didn't survive this economy on welfare.



posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 10:20 AM
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Wow!

What is this? The New York Times?

You're taking this quote out of context (as you must know).

It's obvious the mainstream media is hoping to discredit Romney with such tactics---and I'm confused as to why you'd go along with the MSM and their usual tactics. It's dishonest----especially on this site--whose motto is DENY IGNORANCE.

I was a reporter for many years. This is the sort of subject line I'd never stoop low enough to write.

It's DISHONEST.

You've taken this quote out of context.

Apologies accepted.
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posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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OMG even though I dislike the man and his party, you have to see the ENTIRE statement..

it's still a pretty stupid thing to say,but what do you expect from Mr......."I'll bet you $10,000"?

woe be to our country if this guy gets into the White House........




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