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4 UK men admit London Stock Exchange bomb plot

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posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 06:19 AM
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4 UK men admit London Stock Exchange bomb plot


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Four British men radicalized by a U.S.-born Muslim cleric pleaded guilty on Wednesday to involvement in an al-Qaida inspired plot to spread terror and cause economic damage by bombing the London Stock Exchange at Christmastime.

The men were among nine defendants facing trial in London over an alleged plot to attack the exchange and several other high-profile targets in December 2010. All had initially pleaded not guilty to all the charges against them.

Mohammed Chowdhury, 21; Shah Rahman, 28; Gurukanth Desai, 30; and Abdul Miah, 25, all admitted preparing for acts of terrorism by planni
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posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 06:19 AM
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Normally my first hunch when these "plots" are uncovered is that they were set up as patsies. But in this instance they plead guilty. Perhaps there was some "influence" from an unknown group but there is no concrete information to indicate this at this time.

There are a few points made in this article that could indicate outside influence, particularly the "links" these "homegrown" terrorists have. Who else thinks that this plot will eventually be linked to Western or middle Eastern intelligence?

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posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 06:28 AM
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Guess these guys are the real 'terrorists' ..instead of bombing the public, they bomb the stock exchange - at last they do something useful towards their cause.

I'm not saying any loss of life is good, but this particular aimed attack is better than just blowing up people who have nothing to do with the actual route cause.

When people blow people up, who have nothing to do with any of the circumstances their fighting for, then it leads me to think that these are false attacks, unlike this one.

Nice find



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 06:31 AM
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It wouldn't surprise me if some sort of links were made, between intelligence agency's, and these men.

But, as suspicious as I am of the shady deeds, suspected of these organization's,

I still believe that some of these "terrorist's", are just seeking vengeance for Western oppression in their Islamic "siblings" home countries.

We all know full bloody well how horrible war is, and I am sure we have all imagined what we would do, faced by an occupying force, in our place of birth.

If my family were killed, or worse - I would go off key, and attack anyone responsible, or any enablers of the oppressors - i.e.- the "voting" public.

But at the end of the day, I have lost my faith in mankind, all men will commit depraved, violent acts, given immunity.

I weep for our world, it could have been so much more



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by n00bUK
Guess these guys are the real 'terrorists' ..instead of bombing the public, they bomb the stock exchange - at last they do something useful towards their cause.

I'm not saying any loss of life is good, but this particular aimed attack is better than just blowing up people who have nothing to do with the actual route cause.

When people blow people up, who have nothing to do with any of the circumstances their fighting for, then it leads me to think that these are false attacks, unlike this one.

Nice find



What a preposterous statement! It's alright to blow up innocent men, women and possibly children? To take mothers and fathers away from their children, because they happen to work in a stock exchange.......?

Away with you and your childish opinions.........



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 06:41 AM
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Religion of peace

Never hear about Jews bombing carpet shops.

Aware.
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posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 06:43 AM
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I guess this is one of those unusual cases that show there really ARE enemies out there who'd do anything to kill us in a high profile way. It's interesting to see these occasional cases where we actually lay eyes on the mythical (in the West anyway) creature they call a terrorist. What do ya know? They DO exist!

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posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 07:03 AM
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hi op

this is bloody disgusting
this whole scenario is working like a script
here comes more muslim bashing
an old workmate told me something like this would happen the day after september 11
and the last ten odd yrs have played out like a movie
ar we all getting stupid or something
why are letting this play out ffs
this is what the filth want

flood my beloved britain with immigrants from all walks of life
let them breed like rabbits
eventualy immigrants will have a voice
britain loses its identity and becomes britanistan
the british that are left are led to believe all this terrorist propaganda
my god this country is going down the pan quicker than a kebab the next morning
what can i do about or you?
seems like bugger all dont it
theirs no point watching the film when you know the ending..
sorry ranted there



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 07:10 AM
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Well the IRA only got what they wanted after they started attacking the banking system. Up until that point they had blown up bus loads of people and soldiers. Which did no good for their cause. But once they attacked the financial system things changed. Guess these guys realised that fact and wanted to emulate them. Im sure that there are many people who would agree. The bankers should be all bombed out of existance, for the way they have raped the world, with their wars ect.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 07:29 AM
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How about the governments that bailed the banks out, if they hadn't we wouldn't be in the mess we are in now, it's easy to blame the banks, but the governments should have let them go tits up and we would be in a much better place.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 07:36 AM
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Yes I agree with you on that point. Bankers and politicians are all in the same gang. They are all bought and paid for. We need to get rid of money, thats what enslaves us.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 07:59 AM
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Is this still "terrorism" considering their target?
Looks like they didn't aim for the terror of civilian casualties.
Is the LSE a "soft target" in a world where the banking system equals standing armies?
Serious question.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by illuminnaughty
Well the IRA only got what they wanted after they started attacking the banking system. Up until that point they had blown up bus loads of people and soldiers. Which did no good for their cause. But once they attacked the financial system things changed. Guess these guys realised that fact and wanted to emulate them. Im sure that there are many people who would agree. The bankers should be all bombed out of existance, for the way they have raped the world, with their wars ect.


You say bankers but what about those bankers that are actually just normal people going about their business? Most bank employees are those you see in your bank everyday - are they evil bankers? Or only certain types of bankers? And if only certain types of bankers, then that raises a whole set of other questions. Frankly, to endorse bombing people is rather childish - i get your anger at certain individuals / institutions but to tar everyone with the same brush?

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posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by ColCurious
Is this still "terrorism" considering their target?
Looks like they didn't aim for the terror of civilian casualties.
Is the LSE a "soft target" in a world where the banking system equals standing armies?
Serious question.


Exactly
thats why its propaganda bs from our beloved government
its such a joke the world over
watch out for the olympics
and bloody north korea



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 08:09 AM
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Normally my first hunch when these "plots" are uncovered is that they were set up as patsies.


Why?

Surely the fact that the vast majority of these 'plots' have been proven beyond doubt suggests that the number of false flags etc must be very few indeed, if any at all.

Why the constant refusal to accept that there are a number of Islamic extremists who want, and sometimes actually do try, to blow things up?



Who else thinks that this plot will eventually be linked to Western or middle Eastern intelligence?


It wouldn't surprise me at all if no links whatsoever are found except those in the imagination and extrapolations in the minds of those who, for various reasons, refuse to believe the facts as laid out in front of them.

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We all know full bloody well how horrible war is, and I am sure we have all imagined what we would do, faced by an occupying force, in our place of birth.


Most of these homegrown terrorists are second and third generation and are very quick to point out they are British.
Very few have any Iraqi, Afghanistani, Lebanese or Palestinian etc connections whatsoever.

And how does any of that explain the wholescale slaughter Muslims are inflicting upon each other in Iraq now all in the name of their religion of peace etc when there are no US / UK / occupying forces there anymore?

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Well the IRA only got what they wanted after they started attacking the banking system.


Think you might have got that arse about face mate.
Didn't know there had been any break up of the British Union and Ulster had joined The Republic Of Ireland in a socialist state.
Because that was the single stated aim of P.I.R.A.

I think you'll find that once P.I.R.A. targetted The City of London and other financial institutions then the UK government threatened to take the gloves off and do whatever necessary to eliminate them.
Guess what - the vast majority of Provo's laid down their arms and went willingly to the negotiating table, something they had previously vehemently refused to do, and have since actively worked alongside those they previously opposed in making great strides in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and partaking fully in the democratic process.

If Islamic terrorists think they will further their cause by attacking The City etc they will be sadly mistaken.

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Yes I agree with you on that point. Bankers and politicians are all in the same gang


On this we agree.
But the answer is not the indiscriminate bombing of their assets and institutions.

And I think that is a seperate arguement to that of Islamic terrorists.
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posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by ColCurious
Is this still "terrorism" considering their target?
Looks like they didn't aim for the terror of civilian casualties.
Is the LSE a "soft target" in a world where the banking system equals standing armies?
Serious question.


What about the cleaners, the people on minimum wage working in the coffee shops, the collateral damage of those in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I'm sorry but the theme in this thread that "it's alright because it's the bankers" is just wrong. I'm not happy that the bankers profligate ways lead to the financial debacle we are in now. That doesn't mean that their deaths would be in some way acceptable or even welcome, heaven forbid.

What's wrong with you people?



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 08:23 AM
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Need more information, the government usually works hand in hand with the lawyers, that means if the government wants someone to plead guilty or confess, they will do it through that person's lawyer. The lawyers usually tell their clients to plead guilty, and most naive and gullible clients do plead guilty after finding out that if they plead not guilty, and they are still convicted the punishment is 10 times worse.

I have been involved in courts and know this first hand, although I haven't seen government involvement in my personal cases, it is safe to assume that the government is involved in this case.

Lawyers are liars and deceivers, sometimes they deceive their clients for profit, sometimes the deceive the justice system for profits.

All of that being said, I would love to see the evidence in this case, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were planning an attack, people still don't get it, there is a clear cut target in some Western countries, those targets are always on surveillance. Those targets are chosen through the material you read (books, online articles etc..), your interaction with others, and your personal attributes. This has been the case in US for a long time, and US government openly admits that they are doing this.

Some people want to seek justice by blowing things up, at least that is justice from their perspective, people need to understand their perspective, that understanding can help bring change and stop this conflict before it goes too far and the broke nations end up becoming beggars.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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Well said. I find it rather ironic that on a forum where most people eschew violence, that concept disappears when confronted with bankers.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by 0010110011101
What about the cleaners, the people on minimum wage working in the coffee shops, the collateral damage of those in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Collateral damage is just that. It's unfortunate but happens in regular warfare all the time.


Originally posted by 0010110011101
I'm sorry but the theme in this thread that "it's alright because it's the bankers" is just wrong.

I didn't condone the plot in any form I was just seriously wondering and asking.



posted on Feb, 1 2012 @ 08:30 AM
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If you ask the bankers or British government that same question, they would say "collateral damage". That is their own words, they would say "we regret the loss of life, but collateral damage is inevitable". I don't support any form of war, I believe in self defence. If someone is attacking you, or trying to take your livelihood away from you, you do have the right to defend yourself.

If these guys truly did plot to blow up bankers, I would love to know their motive. Most likely lost their minds from watching too much BBC, I mean Muslims have deep connection with other Muslims, every time they see a Muslim getting blown up, they feel it in their hearts, as if their own brothers have been killed (note - they call each other brothers and sisters). That's why they get the urge to seek justice, some try justice in the courts, others try justice in protesting, some try justice by blowing things up, targets which they deem to be guilty of the killings, and some try justice through "spreading the truth".
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