Who is really behind the birthers and what is their real motive?, page 5


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reply posted on 1-2-2012 @ 06:09 PM by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by MamaJ



It's funny how many people are offended by "name calling" but have no issue spreading lies and anti-Obama propaganda.

I'd rather everyone researched their belief and called me each other idiots than people politely spreading lies.



reply posted on 1-2-2012 @ 06:13 PM by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by Blaine91555



I didn't play any race card. I've learned though that people that do things like accuse strangers of 'playing the race card' are often the most racist or bigoted folks out there.


reply posted on 1-2-2012 @ 06:14 PM by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by hdutton



The fewer birthers I have to deal with on a day to day basis the better.


reply posted on 1-2-2012 @ 06:28 PM by MamaJ
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to
post by MamaJ



It's funny how many people are offended by "name calling" but have no issue spreading lies and anti-Obama propaganda.

I'd rather everyone researched their belief and called me each other idiots than people politely spreading lies.



If you were not there at Obama's birth then you have no idea where he was REALLY BORN. Who are you to call someone a liar when you yourself do NOT KNOW. You read some things...it makes your heart tingle and you call it truth??? MMMMKAY!!!

When creating a thread of debate such as this one...TRY HARDER not to name call. It really makes YOU look bad and not worthy of debating in an adult manner. Take this as constructive criticism.

The other poster had GREAT points and it hurt you at the core. That was obvious...not just you but other Obama'ers.

The other poster was acting like an adult by not dropping to your level and I am even more convinced MY PRESIDENT is a liar... THEY ALL ARE!

I for one do not care anymore. He will be out of office soon enough and this topic will either prove in his favor or it won't.

For you though....your thread has proven to be absent of a debatable discussion.


reply posted on 2-2-2012 @ 01:54 AM by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by MamaJ



When someone edits text to make it appear to say something it doesn't that's a lie.
When someone repeatedly mKes claims they know to be untrue, that's a lie.
When someone illegally gets someone's private information, pulls a random number off it, claims that the year in which the person in question's recycled SSN was from, even though the document says, 'the SSN is not recycled'. Well, that's a whopper of a lie.

If you repeatedly lie, and you do it to try and slander someone you should be called on it.

If you know someone is lying and refuse to acknowledge It, that's ALSO a lie.

Btw, the thread wasn't meant to be a debate about birtherism. But I guess birthers didn't actually read the OP. Big surprise.....
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reply posted on 2-2-2012 @ 08:43 AM by spyder550
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to
post by MamaJ



When someone edits text to make it appear to say something it doesn't that's a lie.
When someone repeatedly mKes claims they know to be untrue, that's a lie.
When someone illegally gets someone's private information, pulls a random number off it, claims that the year in which the person in question's recycled SSN was from, even though the document says, 'the SSN is not recycled'. Well, that's a whopper of a lie.

If you repeatedly lie, and you do it to try and slander someone you should be called on it.

If you know someone is lying and refuse to acknowledge It, that's ALSO a lie.

Btw, the thread wasn't meant to be a debate about birtherism. But I guess birthers didn't actually read the OP. Big surprise.....
edit on 2-2-2012 by captainnotsoobvious because: (no reason given)


Hawaii says it is the real deal -- take it up with them
The whole social security number thing is a ruse too.

you are the one who has been duped -- and all it too was a Russian Lawyer/dentist/real estate/psychopath.


reply posted on 2-2-2012 @ 01:19 PM by bekod
reply to post by filosophia

now one has stopped to think, the reason they might have done this is to prevent ID theft, think it about it!!! A real birth cert made public, how many would be copying and use it for fake false ID?? they would have to alter it some how some way to know it is not a real copy, so if some one did try it it would be of no use.


reply posted on 2-2-2012 @ 01:27 PM by bekod
reply to post by kaylaluv

this goes back to the old saying "you can lead a horse to water but be darn if you can make it drink" Same as this , speaking as a former one, now that all has been researched, I know that Obama has the lawful right to hold the office of the Pres. end of story.
Do not believe this, you have the right to so. There is no point trying to convince the unconvincing.
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