Originally posted by rainbowbear
reply to post by petrus4
I find the Occupy crowd to be very ignorant about---politics and "the establishment" in general, namely their part in society as a whole.
A look at resent history shows that revolutions are engineered. they dont just happen. And when they ignite, there is a vacuum of sorts--the air is ripe for change, but no one knows how to run the ship! Now ask yourself, if there have been revolutions in the past, why arent we in a better situation now? Anyone see a pattern?
Revolution is a business, but I dont think many have read that book. Such is life!edit on 8-2-2012 by rainbowbear because: (no reason given)edit on 8-2-2012 by rainbowbear because: (no reason given)
revolutions in other countries in recent years have been engineered by the American CIA to overthrow democratically elected leaders spreading ideologies that went against the "American way". this movement is distinctly different from that. there have been attempts by groups such as Move On to co-opt it, and while various monied individuals and groups have funded certain aspects and had their voices heard, overall the movement still stands on its own merits without begging to the establishment. sure, there are some democrats who hold signs that say "Obama 2012" or show support for the Clinton family, but there are also anarchists, different types of socialists, right-wing libertarians, etc., as well as the majority who are just there because they are pissed off about the world's current economic situation. the point is, so far, it is a movement that has many faces and voices, most of which generally disagree with each other but are willing to come together for some common ideas. that is what i love about this movement. and for the detractors who say that we need to come up with a plan/some demands, 1. this is the first part of the movement. we are coming together right now. the next step will be creating a plan. 2. what is unclear about the demands that have already been put forth?? there are dozens of very specific and detailed demands.
alright, i'm starting to veer away from the topic i was initially discussing so i'll just end it here.


. From what I see here in America I don't think it could ever work unless human nature is completely changed. 53percent of the population pays the
taxes that support the other 47percent and don't see a lot of the takers having a problem with that, the seem to think it is perfectly fine. Then on
another note you have unions bullying owners into doing things their way....I think in general human nature will always win out and you will have
takers, users and those that work hard because they have a sense of responsibility. Your socialism model is too much like the utopian society of
wishful thinkers.
