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Originally posted by FissionSurplus
There are times when there are high cirrus clouds out here and there is cold air aloft, and the jets leave plain old contrails as they pass overhead. That doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the flying around in circles and criss-crossing the sky with trails that look and behave strangely. There would be no reason for these jets to circle around here because they'd just be wasting gas, there's no airport for hundreds of miles.
There are, however, air force bases, but they are around 200 miles away.
I do not believe the jets that leave chemtrails are passenger jets. Passenger jets leave contrails when conditions are right in the atmosphere. Everybody understands and accepts this.
Here is what bothers me: I have seen contrails, and seen how they dissipate...somewhat evenly. If they evaporate slowly, they get wispy and spread out. Not a big deal. I have also seen what I believe to be chemtrails, sprayed at lower altitudes, in which the jet starts a spray and then stops it and continues on. With binoculars, I can see that the spray comes out bilaterally from both sides of the plane. The plumes left behind are fluffy and so bright white that it almost hurts my eyes to look at them. The plumes stay put and there is never an evaporation, no matter how hot and dry it is. When they dissipate, it is in a "blobby" way, like putting a squirt of food coloring in a glass of water. These blobs, or fingers, of chemtrail take FOREVER to stretch out, they hold their shape for an abnormally long time.
Originally posted by sharintexas
I am north of Austin maybe 100 miles or so and when I walked out of work today I immediately notices all the criss cross trails...bunches of them. Odd that they were also in the sky in other part of Texas, isn't it?
Originally posted by nihonjindesu08
I personally have seen certain planes make chemtrails while others at the same altitude & area of sky will only leave contrails that evaporate at about the same rate that the plane is flying. It's so obvious, IDK how the people who deny it, do.
Originally posted by miniatus
Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
reply to post by miniatus
You guys haven't proved anything at all, other than you have nothing better to do than restate your opinion countless times that they are nothing but contrails, when you have no proof either.
So, why bother?
In fact, you disregard anything that is brought to these forums that address the possible motives for spraying.
But, the fact that you don't recognize that something is actually going on in the skies tells me you are either really ignorant, or you are a troll. I will not say you are paid to spread disinfo, or to disrupt threads like these that are meant to raise awareness, but that IS a possibility of course.
Or, are you one of those that spends countless days trying to "educate" the poor fools? What a waste of time, huh?
It's not trolling .. We aren't the ones making claims that have no evidence to support them .. we use science and well explained, known phenomena .. Asking us to believe they are chemical sprays with zero proof of that, or zero proof of it ever having been ( excluding pesticides, putting out fires or the well known cloud seeding operations ) .. Be realistic
It's not trolling when I'm saying that there's never been evidence of chemtrails and there's more than enough evidence of contrails .. they are a well known, well understood phenomena that's been around since rocketry began ..
And why is it that when someone takes a counter position, suddenly they are a troll or a disinfo agent? that is an annoying trend .. it's like countering with "Oh yeah, your mom is fat" .. it's pointlessedit on 1/31/2012 by miniatus because: (no reason given)