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Originally posted by celticdog
reply to post by hawkiye
You do know it is a military art? I guess you haven't seen their training video for the military,blood and guts stuff some of it like a UFC fight. All arts have their short comings but have respect for all.They have been around for years.MMA being a young combo of arts and your previous video showed how it looks like a school yard fight.Sure it is evolving but you see some fighters only really do wrestling with a tad bit jujitsu Matt hughes as an example.Some just do wrestling with ground and pound (Tito ortiz,Rampage Jackson.Or just kickbox, Chuck liddel.You do see wrestlers dominate. Now we have Anderson Silva ,Jon Jones,George st Pierre,Machida more strikers taking over.My point is they are really good at one thing and crap at another eg Koschek it took him ages to develope his striking.Or Damian Maia awesome Jujitsu is striking is getting better.It seems to me most not all just stick with their base art and throw in a little be of two other arts.Most MMA guys cant properly punch but Anderson Silva his Striking is brutal.All my street fights were over in seconds and all done with a punch. If you want to be in the fight game have a punch and it can be develope. You cant hail one above the other they all train different and have aspects you dont even know of or cant see just by watching. You should watch the series FIGHT QUEST one MMA and one IRAQ vet train in different arts and then fight at the end.They get owned even when they went to Brazil to do jujitsu. Anyway have respect and arts are about improving oneself
Originally posted by MagoSA
you know, for all of the knowledge that seems to be on ATS, this was some pretty pitiful discussion. Either eastern arts, or modern western arts.
Savate is a killer kickboxing art. I have met several savate practicioners, and they are pretty killer fighters. Street art, too.
Capoeira, especially regional contemporanea, is also a killer art. This is my art. Its descended from the street fighting arts which were in turn descended from slave-revolt fighting styles. As a matter of fact, I used it last spring in a bar fight. One dude got jumped by six guys in the parking lot. I jumped in and put three down in as many seconds. Between the constant motion, kicking, fighting from the floor and takedowns, its pretty complete.
In the harder games that mid-and-high ranked players do, there are knees, headbutts, handstrikes to ears, eyes, throat, and full-power strikes.
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Alot of people have talked bout different styles of fighting as well as methods or even Commercial Events...You are speaking about a form of Kickboxing art and you describe it as a Killer Art.
True Killing is not an art. Martial Arts as well as specific techniques for attack or self defence dependent on condition and enviroment or even space...as I brought up with Chain Punching...are still just techniques.
I know for a fact that you could take the best Practicioners or Teachers of specific Martial arts as well as the Champions of any Commercial Fighting League....get the best of the supposed best....put them out side in a field with nothing but their bodies....and any one of the people I sometimes work with would dispatch them within a matter of seconds.
There is ART...SPORT...TECHNIQUE.....then there are PROFESSIONAL WARRIORS.
Originally posted by choos
no martial arts is better than linguistic arts..
completely walk away from a confrontation without raising a fist.. what better way is there?
Originally posted by LeSigh
I took karate and aikido throughout my college years. However, I'll be honest. As a woman, and someone who hasn't done or practiced any sort of martial arts in about fifteen years, I hardly remember anything useful.
I found aikido difficult due to the flips. I have neck and shoulder problems and didn't feel it was worth my time to exacerbate them by becoming truly proficient in aikido.
That said, the things that stick out most in my mind are the kicks I learned in karate. I was pretty good at them. I can still do them, and because I'm short and naturally defensive minded, I'm more comfortable reacting to an attack in that way and then getting the heck out of the situation.
People should play to their strengths and be realistic. When most of us are confronted with a dire situation, it is about fear and adrenaline. I'm not naturally a fight person, I'm a flight person. People are rarely going to attack you in those perfectly staged situations you practice in martial arts so you have time for the perfect reaction. Real life is a lot more unpredictable. I'm all for people learning self-defense and feel it is a good idea (especially if you're a woman). However, people are also well served with taking pains to make sure they keep themselves out of potential situations in the first place. And, despite everything, I've been debating on whether or not I should buy a hand gun and get my conceal carry license.