Originally posted by korathin
reply to post by webpirate
I hate to be the one to point out the fallacy in your topic post: McCarthy was more or less right(something leftist's love to ignore). Over 1/3rd of
the People he accused of being Communist spies where in fact communist spies.
I believe you owe McCarthy's descendants an apology.
There is a fallacy in you're belief my argument contains a fallacy. Wait...that came out all wrong.
First off, that wasn't my initial comparison. It was Representative Sands.
If you look long and hard enough, of course
you're gonna find what you're looking for. How many innocent people did Joe McCarthy trample upon
and ruin the reputations of just to find the evil communists he actually found? Besides...what he initially found weren't just communists lurking in
the shadows, but were treasonous associates or citizens of the US immediately after WWII ended. Yet he kept looking.
It wasn't his looking for them so much as his method of looking. He violated civil liberties, he violated protections afforded to Americans by the
Constitution itself...that same one which he claimed he was upholding.
Now...if you wanna use the argument that the ends justified the means, well...that actually would have made him as bad as the evil Soviet Empire
itself. They were also able to silence the infidels and critics who were against Stalin, Khrushchev, and Mother Russia herself.
No...Ole Joe was as bad as what he was claiming to be fighting against. In reality..mostly what he did, was silence his political opponents. If you
criticized him, surely you yourself were also a communist.
Let's end this by going one step further. Are you for or against the Guantanamo Bay "prison?" I would venture to guess that at least 1/3rd of the
residents there who have never had a trial or even had the opportunity to face their accusers, are indeed, actually al-Qaeda, or the evil Muslim
extremists they are proclaimed to be. The rest, are probably not. But we may never actually know, since they will never get their day in court. They
will never have a trial.
Now...Representative Sands is claiming that the US Federal Government and it's agencies are doing the same type of thing to the lawmakers of the
states, and possibly the government itself, just because they speak their mind or vote a certain way.
McCarthy used a type of profiling to find his communists. I'd argue that most prisoners....at least 2/3rd's in Git Mo are there not because they
ever did anything wrong, but because of racial or religious profiling. Now....the DEA seems to be profiling certain political figures it disagrees
with. I seriously doubt it actually comes from the DEA though....they are just the tool being used to accomplish the feat of intimidation.
If I were allowed to run roughshod over the American people too, I bet I could find a few bad guys myself. But ya know what? I honestly don't care
who you are, or what you're looking for. Trampling civil rights or political intimidation is wrong.