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The Philosophy behind the immateriality of the absolute.

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posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by smithjustinb
I'm working off of the assumption that at the root of all matter and energy and what all matter and energy is, in essence, is consciousness.

So since all is consciousness and all is alive, then you can see how consciousness builds itself to become more and more complex and then focuses itself into its creation to make itself believe that it is the system that is a body.

That is why we aren't aware of every cell in our body and consciously participating in their activities. It is why the afterlife is possible.



While at the root of all Matter is Energy and the root of all Energy is Consciousness, Consciousness is not what all Energy and Matter is. Energy created by the Universe is created by the conscious thought process of the Universe, just as your mind creates Energy when it thinks, which it always does, and Energy comprises all Matter.


Ribbit




If consciousness isn't a part of energy as a unified quality, then consciousness is non-local.




posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by smithjustinb
I'm working off of the assumption that at the root of all matter and energy and what all matter and energy is, in essence, is consciousness.

So since all is consciousness and all is alive, then you can see how consciousness builds itself to become more and more complex and then focuses itself into its creation to make itself believe that it is the system that is a body.

That is why we aren't aware of every cell in our body and consciously participating in their activities. It is why the afterlife is possible.



While at the root of all Matter is Energy and the root of all Energy is Consciousness, Consciousness is not what all Energy and Matter is. Energy created by the Universe is created by the conscious thought process of the Universe, just as your mind creates Energy when it thinks, which it always does, and Energy comprises all Matter.


Ribbit




If consciousness isn't a part of energy as a unified quality, then consciousness is non-local.



eYe think you meant to say Matter, since eYe said Energy is a part of the unified quality of Consciousness.


Energy is Matter, but it isn't atoms, which is what eYe took you to mean by Matter. The atoms are created from the Energy in the recycling process, sew Energy is the Source of atoms but Energy is created first, then the atoms are put together from the Energy (trons).

Which came first, Energy (trons) or Atoms?


Ribbit



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by smithjustinb
I'm working off of the assumption that at the root of all matter and energy and what all matter and energy is, in essence, is consciousness.

So since all is consciousness and all is alive, then you can see how consciousness builds itself to become more and more complex and then focuses itself into its creation to make itself believe that it is the system that is a body.

That is why we aren't aware of every cell in our body and consciously participating in their activities. It is why the afterlife is possible.



While at the root of all Matter is Energy and the root of all Energy is Consciousness, Consciousness is not what all Energy and Matter is. Energy created by the Universe is created by the conscious thought process of the Universe, just as your mind creates Energy when it thinks, which it always does, and Energy comprises all Matter.


Ribbit




If consciousness isn't a part of energy as a unified quality, then consciousness is non-local.



eYe think you meant to say Matter, since eYe said Energy is a part of the unified quality of Consciousness.


Energy is Matter, but it isn't atoms, which is what eYe took you to mean by Matter. The atoms are created from the Energy in the recycling process, sew Energy is the Source of atoms but Energy is created first, then the atoms are put together from the Energy (trons).

Which came first, Energy (trons) or Atoms?


Ribbit


Energy precedes matter but is never separate from it.



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by filosophia
So when a philosopher asks what caused God, if God is meant the absolute and not a mythological deity, than there is no answer to the question what caused the absolute, since the absolute is immaterial and thus has no cause. It is uncaused.


Sounds like the age-old question: "if God created everything, who created God?"

No one. When all that exists is one, there's no time because time requires a measurement to exist. First there's timelessness(the absolute), then there's time (or the perception of it). Through time we perceive distinctiveness, separation, drama... it sure as hell isn't oneness.



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by smithjustinb
I'm working off of the assumption that at the root of all matter and energy and what all matter and energy is, in essence, is consciousness.

So since all is consciousness and all is alive, then you can see how consciousness builds itself to become more and more complex and then focuses itself into its creation to make itself believe that it is the system that is a body.

That is why we aren't aware of every cell in our body and consciously participating in their activities. It is why the afterlife is possible.



While at the root of all Matter is Energy and the root of all Energy is Consciousness, Consciousness is not what all Energy and Matter is. Energy created by the Universe is created by the conscious thought process of the Universe, just as your mind creates Energy when it thinks, which it always does, and Energy comprises all Matter.


Ribbit




If consciousness isn't a part of energy as a unified quality, then consciousness is non-local.



eYe think you meant to say Matter, since eYe said Energy is a part of the unified quality of Consciousness.


Energy is Matter, but it isn't atoms, which is what eYe took you to mean by Matter. The atoms are created from the Energy in the recycling process, sew Energy is the Source of atoms but Energy is created first, then the atoms are put together from the Energy (trons).

Which came first, Energy (trons) or Atoms?


Ribbit


Energy precedes matter but is never separate from it.



Energy is Matter but Atoms are made of that Matter, making them Matter as well sew ANSWER the question AS IT IS ASKED?

Which came first: ENERGY or ATOMS?

That does kNot ask:

Which came first: Energy or Matter? It asks:

Which came first: ENERGY or ATOMS?

Ribbit


Ps: How is it possible for Light to have Energy but no mass?



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posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by circlemaker

Originally posted by filosophia
So when a philosopher asks what caused God, if God is meant the absolute and not a mythological deity, than there is no answer to the question what caused the absolute, since the absolute is immaterial and thus has no cause. It is uncaused.


Sounds like the age-old question: "if God created everything, who created God?"

No one. When all that exists is one, there's no time because time requires a measurement to exist. First there's timelessness(the absolute), then there's time (or the perception of it). Through time we perceive distinctiveness, separation, drama... it sure as hell isn't oneness.



Time is a part of God/Source, sew of course it's been around forever.


Ribbit



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Time is a part of God/Source, sew of course it's been around forever.


By that logic so has everything else. You know what I mean.



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by circlemaker

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Time is a part of God/Source, sew of course it's been around forever.


By that logic so has everything else. You know what I mean.




No! Virgin matter is being created at all times and new Souls are being born all the time, sew while what has been will always be, what will be, will be when it happens.
Same with the Universe. m0m is growing and WE grow with Her.


She's the fat lady that's suppose to sing when it's over but She's always singing, sew it's never over.


Ribbit



edit on 15-2-2012 by ButtUglyToad because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 05:05 PM
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let him spread his poison butter all over the site, him alone is the proof of nonsense which is the indirect proof of the common sense that u belong to existence

as u meant it, time is to absolute freedom existence and relatively to our freedom rights, what we did with

all else is to truth freedom objective rights and absolute truth freedom superiority



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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keep dreaming about having a mother u r simply reaching ur end, being from else is a direct offense to truth, as a pervert confirmation for denying being truth



posted on Feb, 15 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by absolutely
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
 


keep dreaming about having a mother u r simply reaching ur end, being from else is a direct offense to truth, as a pervert confirmation for denying being truth



There is no end, you Absolutely awesome excuse for a moron.


Ribbit



posted on Feb, 16 2012 @ 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

There is no end, you Absolutely awesome excuse for a moron.


Ribbit


moron urself there is nothing but objective end, while ur end is to truth relative ends not the absolute true end

that is why u have the sense of noend for urforever kind of state to come while the objective end u will b locked inn



posted on Feb, 16 2012 @ 01:28 AM
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will b of absolute freedom that will realize it especially for u with such pleasure that will exceed all ur expectations to see urself freedom out of all inferiority conception being such objectively fully done without having to do anything urself anymore



posted on Feb, 16 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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Matter and atoms are the same thing.



posted on Feb, 16 2012 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
 


Matter and atoms are the same thing.



No they are kNot!

Trons are matter:

www.sciencedaily.com...

"Out Of Pure Light, Physicists Create Particles Of Matter"

There is kNot a single atom that is just an electron, or a proton, or a neutron. Atoms are comprised of Matter, thus, they are ORGANIZED MATTER!
A tron is Matter but it is ORGANIZED LIGHT!


"Order, via Control, breeds Chaos but Control, via Order, isn't Control." - Old Toad Proverb

Equation of Perfect Order: Zero Control = Zero Chaos = Perfect Order

"Law of Opposites - opposites cannot exist without each other and if one exists, so too does the other, with the opposing opposites comprising Source and Source comprising the opposing opposites."

"Everything is Relative to Source and Source is Relative to Everything." - Old Toad Proverb

Ribbit



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posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 05:34 AM
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everything is relative to existence reality and existence is relative to absolutes value

chaos is the proof that there is no source is truth sense

while forcing a concept as an absolute fact like here the concept of source, is clearly meaning the opposition to existence sense, when existence is the unik reason of any and all so any opposition to existence respect is the source of evil absolute fact being the powerful reason of all living



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by absolutely
everything is relative to existence reality and existence is relative to absolutes value

chaos is the proof that there is no source is truth sense

while forcing a concept as an absolute fact like here the concept of source, is clearly meaning the opposition to existence sense, when existence is the unik reason of any and all so any opposition to existence respect is the source of evil absolute fact being the powerful reason of all living



You have bought into this Matrix!


Everything is Relative to Source and Source is Relative to Everything.

Your reality is an ILLUSION!

There is no spoon!

There is no chaos!

Chaos is MANUFACTURED REALITY! Also known as a CONSTRUCT!


U R A blind fool!


Ribbit



posted on Feb, 17 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by absolutely
reply to post by ButtUglyToad
 


keep dreaming about having a mother u r simply reaching ur end, being from else is a direct offense to truth, as a pervert confirmation for denying being truth



Where did the Universe come from?


How does it continue to grow?


Where did your Soul come from?


How does it continue to grow?


Where did you come from?


How dew you continue to exist, being as stupid as you are?


Ribbit



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad

Originally posted by smithjustinb

Energy precedes matter but is never separate from it.



Energy is Matter but Atoms are made of that Matter, making them Matter as well sew ANSWER the question AS IT IS ASKED?

Which came first: ENERGY or ATOMS?

That does kNot ask:

Which came first: Energy or Matter? It asks:

Which came first: ENERGY or ATOMS?

Ribbit


Ps: How is it possible for Light to have Energy but no mass?



edit on 15-2-2012 by ButtUglyToad because: (no reason given)


I see what you're saying now that matter is not atoms, atoms are organized matter. The answer to your question is energy precedes atoms.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
[You have bought into this Matrix!


Everything is Relative to Source and Source is Relative to Everything.

Your reality is an ILLUSION!

U R A blind fool!


Ribbit


you are the blind to any reality bc u inherently are a liar while reality is all exclusively to inherent true conscious

u r the fool that cant but appear stupid in absolute terms from any word use,

if all is relative to source and source relative to all how would time be the past? as u claim
if all was to source then there cant b before and source cant mean else

and if back exist then truth is, while when truth is then any is true and all is real

this is just a fart from ur own logics standards proving ur absolute inferiority even in lies so how definitely u inherently do not exist forever




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