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Why do you think that ? What do we really know about matter ? Matter is basically a macro manifestation of micro or quantum energy, so why do you think matter is not noble enough?
Originally posted by filosophia
The absolute is the highest reality possible, infinity, truth. This absolute must be immaterial since it is different from all matter, if it were not, it would be just another object and not reality itself.
Again, and in regard to what I just said, what makes you think that the absolute is immaterial?
So when a philosopher asks what caused God, if God is meant the absolute and not a mythological deity, than there is no answer to the question what caused the absolute, since the absolute is immaterial and thus has no cause. It is uncaused.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by filosophia
Existence becomes truth when it becomes observed. Reality is the universe + consciousness. The absolute is the capacity to develop consciousness, and perhaps consciousness itself assuming consciousness is external to the brain and is eternal.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by filosophia
Existence becomes truth when it becomes observed. Reality is the universe + consciousness. The absolute is the capacity to develop consciousness, and perhaps consciousness itself assuming consciousness is external to the brain and is eternal.
Originally posted by filosophia
Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by filosophia
Existence becomes truth when it becomes observed. Reality is the universe + consciousness. The absolute is the capacity to develop consciousness, and perhaps consciousness itself assuming consciousness is external to the brain and is eternal.
Truth exists if it is observed or not, so consciousness is not even necessary. The unverse would exist if every conscious being died out. The development of consciousness is a product of the absolute due to the fact that everythings true nature is the absolute reality.
Originally posted by filosophia
The absolute is the highest reality possible, infinity, truth. This absolute must be immaterial since it is different from all matter, if it were not, it would be just another object and not reality itself.
So when a philosopher asks what caused God, if God is meant the absolute and not a mythological deity, than there is no answer to the question what caused the absolute, since the absolute is immaterial and thus has no cause. It is uncaused.
So the question is, if the absolute is uncaused, but everything in the universe has a cause to it, how does the uncause cause the universe? How does truth create something? Does something exist and then truth exists, or are they both simultaneously one?
Originally posted by jahn369
Originally posted by filosophia
Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by filosophia
Existence becomes truth when it becomes observed. Reality is the universe + consciousness. The absolute is the capacity to develop consciousness, and perhaps consciousness itself assuming consciousness is external to the brain and is eternal.
Truth exists if it is observed or not, so consciousness is not even necessary. The unverse would exist if every conscious being died out. The development of consciousness is a product of the absolute due to the fact that everythings true nature is the absolute reality.
Consider the possibility that existence and consciousness are attributes of the same absolute, that there is no existence without consciousness.
Originally posted by gosseyn
Why do you think that ? What do we really know about matter ? Matter is basically a macro manifestation of micro or quantum energy, so why do you think matter is not noble enough?
Originally posted by filosophia
The absolute is the highest reality possible, infinity, truth. This absolute must be immaterial since it is different from all matter, if it were not, it would be just another object and not reality itself.
Originally posted by absolutely
reply to post by filosophia
there is truth and freedom within all and any
let me try to give the concept of what is normal to me as the least logics that i admit
truth is the concept that as long as any cant b but any then objective will always be only positive fact constancy
Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by Starchild23
The absolute is uncaused because if it had a cause then that cause would be greater than it and therefore the absolute would not be absolute. The true absolute is absolute by its own nature and not by any other nature. Nothing upholds the absolute, it is nowhere and everywhere.
Originally posted by absolutely
reply to post by filosophia
i disagree again, things dont have a mind only freedom as it is relatively involved in true existence must be conscious to mind its way out
what is real is still so always there absolutely there is no need to any more when the absolute most is objective, that is why on the contrary what is real is more meaning ways to reduce logics till it became still absolute
true existence is objective in the middle of two different freedom position, freedom concept as source of objective and freedom ends as the present fact result that in absolute truth conception is the positive reference
freedom concept is the superior reference, what is absolutely free is one as nothing objective so cant b objective which is how truth exist then as result of superior reference and positive reference becoming at some point one
objective become independant then in positive superiority mode through absolute reality of all fact, so if that become conscious at a certain level it would go to absolute freedom minds for better results as knowing its source but absolute reality free conscious cant be reality source, since it is never absolutely free
the more it would b conscious the more objective will mean right freedom as else to b real through free minds right realizations
Originally posted by filosophia
The absolute is the highest reality possible, infinity, truth. This absolute must be immaterial since it is different from all matter, if it were not, it would be just another object and not reality itself.
So when a philosopher asks what caused God, if God is meant the absolute and not a mythological deity, than there is no answer to the question what caused the absolute, since the absolute is immaterial and thus has no cause. It is uncaused.
So the question is, if the absolute is uncaused, but everything in the universe has a cause to it, how does the uncause cause the universe? How does truth create something? Does something exist and then truth exists, or are they both simultaneously one?