Since when did conspiracy hunting become a Fashion trend?, page 1

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Dear michaelsherlock,

Sorry, I don't know where you are coming from. If this is a "rant" does it apply to more than just religion? If it is limited to religion, what aspect are you addressing. I am a Christian; but, I am not part of any conspiracy, I say what I think and leave it at that. Are you upset that people dislike believers or that there are non-believers who attack believers, they are entitled to their beliefs and I wouldn't expect them to trust people who are believers. I am not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand where you are coming from. Peace.

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The best way to hide anything is in plain sight.
Take UFOs for example. Say alien visitation is 100% fact. What better way to cover it up than making aliens trendy and appear almost everywhere you look as to condition you into thinking its just a fad brought on by imaginative humans.
children's cartoons are a perfect example. Almost 90% of all children's programming deals with some sort of alien encounter these days. This way when someone sees the real thing it can be played off as fiction. Get a large number of people involved who are only in it for the fad just makes it appear more manufactured and less believable. Which is what they want.

Originally posted by metaldemon2000
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The best way to hide anything is in plain sight.
Take UFOs for example. Say alien visitation is 100% fact. What better way to cover it up than making aliens trendy and appear almost everywhere you look as to condition you into thinking its just a fad brought on by imaginative humans.
children's cartoons are a perfect example. Almost 90% of all children's programming deals with some sort of alien encounter these days. This way when someone sees the real thing it can be played off as fiction. Get a large number of people involved who are only in it for the fad just makes it appear more manufactured and less believable. Which is what they want.

Excellent observation!

Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by michaelsherlock

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Dear michaelsherlock,

Sorry, I don't know where you are coming from. If this is a "rant" does it apply to more than just religion? If it is limited to religion, what aspect are you addressing. I am a Christian; but, I am not part of any conspiracy, I say what I think and leave it at that. Are you upset that people dislike believers or that there are non-believers who attack believers, they are entitled to their beliefs and I wouldn't expect them to trust people who are believers. I am not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand where you are coming from. Peace.

Tis a bit of a rant, I admit, but it does not take away from the fact that the conspiracy movement in general, has been sidelined by trend!

My thread does not pertain to religion in general, but rather it has a broader focus.

What kind of Christian are you, if you dont mind me asking?

reply to post by michaelsherlock

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Dear michaelsherlock,

Tis a bit of a rant, I admit, but it does not take away from the fact that the conspiracy movement in general, has been sidelined by trend! My thread does not pertain to religion in general, but rather it has a broader focus. What kind of Christian are you, if you dont mind me asking?

I don't mind you asking, I don't know that I have an answer. A freak Christian, one that actually believes we all matter. I don't belong to a denomination and also pastor a small group. My dogma is pretty simple, love God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself. In the end, the most complex thing is simple, it is a question of priorities and in the end the most simple things are complex for those who justify their actions to get a cookie. I accuse you of neither, I merely answer your question. Peace.

Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by michaelsherlock

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Dear michaelsherlock,

Tis a bit of a rant, I admit, but it does not take away from the fact that the conspiracy movement in general, has been sidelined by trend! My thread does not pertain to religion in general, but rather it has a broader focus. What kind of Christian are you, if you dont mind me asking?

I don't mind you asking, I don't know that I have an answer. A freak Christian, one that actually believes we all matter. I don't belong to a denomination and also pastor a small group. My dogma is pretty simple, love God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself. In the end, the most complex thing is simple, it is a question of priorities and in the end the most simple things are complex for those who justify their actions to get a cookie. I accuse you of neither, I merely answer your question. Peace.

Cool, thanks for the answer! Your dogma sounds very positive and I think that to keep it so simple can avoid many of the pitfalls other religious people fall into! However, you could also call yourself a platonic philosopher, for Plato espoused both those dogmas, or a Stoic, as Seneca and Zeno also taught those things and to them God was Zeus. So my question now becomes, why do you need to call yourself a "Christian," surely with your open minded dogma, you could do away with the restrictive label. Your thoughts!

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Dear michaelsherlock,

Cool, thanks for the answer! Your dogma sounds very positive and I think that to keep it so simple can avoid many of the pitfalls other religious people fall into! However, you could also call yourself a platonic philosopher, for Plato espoused both those dogmas, or a Stoic, as Seneca and Zeno also taught those things and to them God was Zeus. So my question now becomes, why do you need to call yourself a "Christian," surely with your open minded dogma, you could do away with the restrictive label. Your thoughts!

Actually, I would say my beliefs fall more in line with Aristotle politically. As for calling myself a Christian, it doesn't really come up in person unless I am asked. On this site I usually post on spiritual matters and I am known to be Christian and I prefer to get it out of the way as an issue. Personally, I don't think any of us are one thing, I am also a Libertarian and a blogger and a father; but, on this site many tend to see you as just a believer or non-believer. I often find that non-believers will tell me what I believe (usually incorrectly) rather than allowing me to explain my beliefs from my perspective. For the record, I don't want prayer in school, I refuse to be involved in a church that is politically active and I don't care if the government recognizes gay marriage. I would not outlaw such things as we should all have a right to these things; but, it is not my focus. Our focus is on feeding the poor and providing people a place to go to hear the word. Oh yeah, I also don't believe in preaching door to door. Peace.

Originally posted by AQuestion
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Dear michaelsherlock,

Cool, thanks for the answer! Your dogma sounds very positive and I think that to keep it so simple can avoid many of the pitfalls other religious people fall into! However, you could also call yourself a platonic philosopher, for Plato espoused both those dogmas, or a Stoic, as Seneca and Zeno also taught those things and to them God was Zeus. So my question now becomes, why do you need to call yourself a "Christian," surely with your open minded dogma, you could do away with the restrictive label. Your thoughts!

Actually, I would say my beliefs fall more in line with Aristotle politically. As for calling myself a Christian, it doesn't really come up in person unless I am asked. On this site I usually post on spiritual matters and I am known to be Christian and I prefer to get it out of the way as an issue. Personally, I don't think any of us are one thing, I am also a Libertarian and a blogger and a father; but, on this site many tend to see you as just a believer or non-believer. I often find that non-believers will tell me what I believe (usually incorrectly) rather than allowing me to explain my beliefs from my perspective. For the record, I don't want prayer in school, I refuse to be involved in a church that is politically active and I don't care if the government recognizes gay marriage. I would not outlaw such things as we should all have a right to these things; but, it is not my focus. Our focus is on feeding the poor and providing people a place to go to hear the word. Oh yeah, I also don't believe in preaching door to door. Peace.

Interesting response! Sounds like your mind is somewhat open, although I notice you call your holy Scriptures "The Word," Why?

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Dear michalesherlock,

Interesting response! Sounds like your mind is somewhat open, although I notice you call your holy Scriptures "The Word," Why?

I am not sure how to respond to that, "somewhat open"? Does that mean that because I am a Christian that my mind is somewhat closed because I believe in something. Would that not also be true for an atheist, a Republican, a believer in anything? As for calling the bible "the word" it is just a phrase that people use as they often refer to the bible as the "Word of God". You don't have to believe that it is, I am just explaining the use of the term.

Originally posted by AQuestion
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Dear michalesherlock,

Interesting response! Sounds like your mind is somewhat open, although I notice you call your holy Scriptures "The Word," Why?

I am not sure how to respond to that, "somewhat open"? Does that mean that because I am a Christian that my mind is somewhat closed because I believe in something. Would that not also be true for an atheist, a Republican, a believer in anything? As for calling the bible "the word" it is just a phrase that people use as they often refer to the bible as the "Word of God". You don't have to believe that it is, I am just explaining the use of the term.

You are right on! All believers, Darwinists and all, are somewhat close minded! In fact, all of us are somewhat close minded, and certainly Christians are no exception! The word is an interesting phrase dont you think? A word, some words, possible ideas, philosophies to consider, all sound like much better descriptions of the writings of the Jews and Christians contained within their library of Scripture. I dont know if you have or not, but try reading some Plato, Seneca, the Baghavad Gita, and other holy scriptures, it cant hurt, that is, if you havent already. you may find truths which you have not considered yet! Just some advice.

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Dear michaelsherlock,

You are right on! All believers, Darwinists and all, are somewhat close minded! In fact, all of us are somewhat close minded, and certainly Christians are no exception! The word is an interesting phrase dont you think? A word, some words, possible ideas, philosophies to consider, all sound like much better descriptions of the writings of the Jews and Christians contained within their library of Scripture. I dont know if you have or not, but try reading some Plato, Seneca, the Baghavad Gita, and other holy scriptures, it cant hurt, that is, if you havent already. you may find truths which you have not considered yet! Just some advice.

"Try reading" LOL. What makes you assume that I have not? In order for me to be Aristotelian in my views, I had to read them all and more. I spent a over a decade as an agnostic. An agnostic for me meant that you didn't know and if you don't know something I considered it your job to investigate it. It took me another ten years or so to begin to be a believer on any deep level. I have even read the occultists stuff. I have visited the Rosicrucian's headquarters and been in their library.

My beliefs were not arrived at to please others and that is how most people choose what they believe, in my opinion. People choose their beliefs like they choose their clothes, it is dependent on how others will view them. Having been blessed with Autism, this is not an issue for me. It would be inappropriate to turn this thread into an issue of why I believe; but, if you wish to message me then I would consider explaining how I became a believer. Peace.

Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by michaelsherlock

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Dear michaelsherlock,

You are right on! All believers, Darwinists and all, are somewhat close minded! In fact, all of us are somewhat close minded, and certainly Christians are no exception! The word is an interesting phrase dont you think? A word, some words, possible ideas, philosophies to consider, all sound like much better descriptions of the writings of the Jews and Christians contained within their library of Scripture. I dont know if you have or not, but try reading some Plato, Seneca, the Baghavad Gita, and other holy scriptures, it cant hurt, that is, if you havent already. you may find truths which you have not considered yet! Just some advice.

"Try reading" LOL. What makes you assume that I have not? In order for me to be Aristotelian in my views, I had to read them all and more. I spent a over a decade as an agnostic. An agnostic for me meant that you didn't know and if you don't know something I considered it your job to investigate it. It took me another ten years or so to begin to be a believer on any deep level. I have even read the occultists stuff. I have visited the Rosicrucian's headquarters and been in their library.

My beliefs were not arrived at to please others and that is how most people choose what they believe, in my opinion. People choose their beliefs like they choose their clothes, it is dependent on how others will view them. Having been blessed with Autism, this is not an issue for me. It would be inappropriate to turn this thread into an issue of why I believe; but, if you wish to message me then I would consider explaining how I became a believer. Peace.

That is why I led with, " I dont know if you have or not, but..." No offence intended.

But isn't belief rooted in fear and fear alone?

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Dear miachelsherlock,

That is why I led with, " I dont know if you have or not, but..." No offence intended. But isn't belief rooted in fear and fear alone?

True belief is not based on fear, it is based on investigation. For most people their "beliefs" are just social attitudes. Studies have shown that people claim to believe one thing but live based on social responses to their beliefs the most important being the beliefs of their friends and family.

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