Is it morally wrong to take a life? Not really, say bioethicists, page 1
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Topic started on 30-1-2012 @ 06:40 PM by Blaine91555

Is it morally wrong to take a life? Not really, say bioethicists


www.bioedge.org
Is it morally wrong to kill people? Not really, argue two eminent American bioethicists in an early online article in the Journal of Medical Ethics....

...“[I]f killing were wrong just because it is causing death or the loss of life, then the same principle would apply with the same strength to pulling weeds out of a garden. If it is not immoral to weed a garden, then life as such cannot really be sacred, and killing as such cannot be morally wrong.”
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reply posted on 30-1-2012 @ 06:54 PM by dannotz
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What a ridiculous statement.

Comparing killing a man to pulling weeds?

i get it, but my common sense disagrees.

And yes, disturbing is a good word for this!



reply posted on 30-1-2012 @ 07:02 PM by redrose123
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Every time they open their mouth they tell on themselves. What they just said is we are considered no more than the weeds. They are so caught up in their own twisted minds that they are not the same species that the rest of us are. So of course to them its not any different to kill us than a bug or a tree. These people are completely out of their minds. Who is more crazy them? Or the rest of us who allow them to be in power?


reply posted on 30-1-2012 @ 07:13 PM by AQuestion
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Dear Blaine91555,

Great catch S&F. The amazing thing is that they consider them experts on ethics and they say life is not sacred, wow. They can only be understood by understanding what "morality" means to them. Firstly, they do not see human life as special or humans as unique, they compared killing a human to pulling up a blade of grass. Secondly, morality for them is a cost benefit analysis, there is no firm right or wrong, everything is situational. Finally, there is a lot of money to be made in selling organs and a large black market in the trade. Peace.



reply posted on 30-1-2012 @ 07:15 PM by Blaine91555
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What if for instance there were to be a worldwide drought that lead to food rationing for a couple of years? Would that justify killing people who served no important purpose to give their food to others who had more important jobs?

To me what is behind the word humanity is that we value all life no matter how unimportant that life is to the whole. Only when we value individuals over the good of the whole, can we claim to be humane.

The greatest atrocities in history seem to have a their heart the idea that the whole is more important than the part.

I would like to see this get caught up by the MSM to spark a debate about this issue. Academics and those in science are quite conceited in how they think their idea's trump those of who they consider lesser beings. They should not even be having this conversation since the decision when to pull the plug should be left up to the patients living will or family if one does not exist; not to a heartless academician who's heart has never connected with their brains.

This smells of people suffering from a god complex and grandiose delusions at a dangerous level.

I understand this article is not exactly along those lines, but it's the direction its sending us that concerns me.


reply posted on 30-1-2012 @ 07:19 PM by Blaine91555
reply to post by Bleeeeep


Great point. I can easily see how it would desensitize them to humanity. Perhaps they need to get out among the common folk, have a good laugh and get some humanity all over them.

I do think though that some of this comes from the Ivy League crowd separating themselves from society and staying inside their circle of peers. Much in the same way those in Law Enforcement do the same to their detriment and soon come to look at everyone as suspicious and the enemy.


reply posted on 30-1-2012 @ 07:26 PM by sad_eyed_lady
In the 1970's I remember hearing about the Chinese executing prisoners for organs. According to my political science professor people were being incarcerated on trumped up charges and executed with no hearing/trial. The Chinese government claims they are all death row inmates

Here is a 2001 article about it:

"Killed to order: how China harvests body parts on Death Row"
www.telegraph.co.uk...

THE gruesome details of China's trade in human organs harvested from Death Row were revealed in detail for the first time in Washington last week by a young doctor from the People's Republic newly fled to the West.
As horror stories, they compare with the experiments carried out in Nazi concentration camps. Prisoners are killed to order so that doctors can take their body parts, including - in at least one case - while a victim's heart was still beating.


It's all about the money.

Damn if it doesn't look to be the direction we are headed.
So much for the Hippocratic oath.

I really hate to think what doctors will be like in the future.
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