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Shan Hai Jing (simplified Chinese: 山海经; traditional Chinese: 山海經; pinyin: Shānhǎi Jīng; Wade–Giles: Shan Hai Ching; literally "Classic of the Mountains and Seas" or "Collection of the Mountains and Seas") is a Chinese classic text, and a compilation of early geography and myth. Versions of the text have existed since the 4th century BC,[1][2] and by the early Han Dynasty it had reached its final form.[2] It is largely a fabled geographical and cultural account of pre-Qin China as well as a collection of mythology. The book is about 31,000 words long, and is divided into eighteen sections; it describes over 550 mountains and 300 channels. The oldest part of the present book is sometimes referred separately as Wuzang Shanjing 五藏山經.
In 1973, Dr. Hendon Harris, Jr. published a book, “The Asiatic Fathers of America,” claiming that the ancient Chinese arrived to become patriarchs to many of America’s so-called aboriginals. The son of missionaries, Harris grew up in Taiwan, translation of the Shan Hai Jing his great avocation. But not until he discovered an old map, in an antique shop in Korea, of all places, did everything lock into place. The “Everything Under Heaven” map showed not only land masses roughly equaling the size and shape of Africa, Europe, and Australia, but also Fu Sang, the Americas.
In 1972, Dr. Hendon M. Harris Jr., a third generation missionary born in Kaifeng China, was browsing in an antique shop in Korea when he came across an very old cartography book comprised of wood block-printed maps outlining ancient settlements in Korean. When he flipped through the pages, there was a map of the world. This map was Chinese. The Korean name for that type map is Ch’onhado meaning “Chinese map.” This map of the world not only documented known major land masses such as Asia, India, Africa Australia and Europe – many by their ancient names – also included both the continents of North and South America. Most shocking was that this map showed words describing China’s fabled Fu Sang written in an area on what is now called North America.
From 1981 until 2003 most of the time the Harris collection was just in a box under the bed of Hendon, III. The heirs dared not believe that what their father said about them was correct.
In 2003 there was a flurry of worldwide debate about whether the Chinese arrived in America before Columbus. At that time the Harris family took the maps to the Library of Congress where they remained for three years while they were being studied.
The History of Cartography, to which Charlotte was directed at the Library of Congress, states that the date of origin of this style map is unknown. It further tells that 72 percent of the place names on this map are from the Shan Hai Jing. However, the History of Cartography contends that while China, Korea, and Japan in the center of the map are real those countries on the outer rim are imaginary.
Harris believed that the additional place names were added during the many times the maps were copied over the years. He believed that the "mother map" of this style was the long lost map that at one time accompanied the Shan Hai Jing. That would make the original copy of the map to be from 2200 B. C.
By the time of his death Dr. Harris was aware of 23 other similar maps of this style (in addition to his seven) in prestigious museums and collections around the world. He correctly surmised that there were probably a few more. In effect, the true meaning of these maps has been hidden for years - right in plain sight.
The Harris maps were printed from wood block. Most are on mulberry-bark paper and are written in classical Chinese. Although varying in ages they have only minimal differences. The oldest of the Harris maps are believed to be from the Ming dynasty. The map books themselves are Korean but the world map in each book is a Chinese map.
Names on the map, their locations, and descriptions in both the Shan Hai Jing and the fifth century Liang Shu, cemented his conviction that Chinese much further from Columbus than he from us traveled and documented vast portions of the not-so-New World.
There was Equal to Heaven Mountain, matching the location and description of Mt. McKinley, the highest point in North America.
Chasm of the Bright Mountains must surely refer to the Grand Canyon, for nowhere else in the world are there mountains renowned for their luminescence yet beneath the earth’s surface, and 1500 li from Fu Sang’s west coast, at that.
White Lake at Cha Hill corresponds in location and description to Mexico City’s Lake Texcoco, five interconnected bodies of water, since drained and much reduced.
Then there were the accounts of monk Hui Shan, who journeyed extensively through Fu Sang in the 5th century, only to return to laughter and dismissal at the royal court, eight centuries before Marco Polo got the same treatment. His tales of “Decorated Head Country”, on the Yucatan Peninsula, must indeed have sounded fabulous to those who had never seen Maya nobles and warriors in their ultra-elaborate head gear. Ridiculous too, the tales of Women’s Country, the matrilineal Hopi tribes with their “snake husbands”, men who saw the serpent as both their progenitor and protector.
Though the Harris Maps themselves are in seven Korean atlases of various dates, thought to be from the 15th through 19th centuries, the author demonstrates that most Asian maps of that era descended from Chinese maps.
A third century Chinese text mentioned an incident in the 18th century BC involving a world map of the Ch’onhado/Tian Xia style. The source document for the world map is from around 2000 BC and discussed in accurate detail a beautiful land (Fu Sang) to the east of China. The map shows Fu Sang on the American coastline.
Many believe that, long before Columbus, Zheng He, or even the Vikings, the Chinese sailed to the Americas. Some of the most compelling research was compiled by Dr. Hendon M. Harris, Jr. (1916 – 1981), a body of work carried on by his son, Hendon M. Harris III. This is a re-post from the latter’s blog, Chinese Discover America.
"In order for ancient Trans Pacific travel to the Americas to have been possible for the Chinese and other Asians they would have had to have the technology that would make such a trip possible. Only desperate men with no regard for their lives would forage far out into the ocean without navigational knowledge and the tools necessary to use that knowledge. That is precisely why it took Europeans until the period between 1487 & 1577 (90 years) after The Inconvenient Maps and new navigational information and technology from China had shown up in Europe to develop the confidence to sail into “The European Age of Discovery”.
What is apparently hard for the world to accept is that Asians had the technology to make such trips from ancient times. It isn’t a wild claim. Scholarly works by recognized experts on these topics such as Joseph Needham, Robert Temple and many others have set up the basis for these theories to be expressed and explored. (It must be stated here and clearly understood that to my knowledge neither Dr. Needham or Dr. Temple have ever made claims or theorized on the matter of ancient Chinese or Asian Trans Pacific travel.) What they both have shown through their research is that the ancient Chinese had developed and maintained major technological knowledge and equipment well in advance of their European counterparts. These inventions and discoveries included among many others advanced astronomy dating back to 2136 BC, the magnetic compass, recorded navigational ability and shipbuilding skills that produced fleets of ships the size of which wouldn’t be rivaled until the mid 20th century."
Around the edge are arranged some statements of a general nature, namely, that the distance around the world is some 30 million miles; that the world contains 84,000 different countries; that it is surrounded by a limitless ocean; that the stars vary in width from 12 to 30 miles; that the sun and moon are 900 miles wide; and that the heavens and the earth are separated by a distance of 120,000,600 miles
Originally posted by slanteye
reply to post by butcherguy
not surprising..it is said that Zheng He's flagship is as large as a modern day aircraft carrier so it is no Chinese junk. They invented the south pointing compass and ship rudder as well as compartmental ship building. Their sail arrangement allow them to sail upwind and only takes one or two persons to unfurl. Go to Ancient Chinese Inventions or Things Europeans Did Not Invent and you can see for yourself
Originally posted by slanteye
reply to post by butcherguy
not surprising..it is said that Zheng He's flagship is as large as a modern day aircraft carrier so it is no Chinese junk.
Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by Hanslune
The ships the people like Columbus undertook voyages on really just increase my admiration for explorers from that time.
I often go over to Whitby for a wander. They sometimes have a full size replica of HMS Endeavour there (Cook's ship to Australia) and my god is that thing tiny. I certainly would not fancy a trek across the North Sea in it let alone the Pacific! However, they have made the journey several times in the replica, usually with a mix of young Aussies and Brits crewing it.
I have to say that in comparison, Zheng's looks like total luxury.
Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by Hanslune
In in York Hanslune - we have Viking festivals every year. My surname is a cross of old English and Norse (similar meanings and pronunciation but then they really were from the same stock anyway!).
I have actually done the Dragon Race several times and been to a fair few boat burning festivals also. I have to say, despite appearances i would actually be far more comfortable on a Viking ship than on the "technically superior" (i seriously question that) ships of Cook's era. The Viking ships travelled through the water, Cooks type of ship more seems to get there by luck! (not good handling, that's for sure!).
Have to say, i'm really spoilt here. We do the Roman festival here every year too, and are just down the road (in both directions) of one of the most significant battles of the Civil War (Marston Moor) in one direction and the Battle of Towton (totally different civil war, houses of York and Lancaster) in the other - the Battle of Towton was actually the bloodiest ever in the UK and gave its name to the local stream (known as either Red Beck or the Killing Beck).
Plus Stamford Bridge about 10 minutes away and also the site of the Battle of Fulford (pre battle to Stamford Bridge). I think if you haven't been, you would quite like it round here
And to the OP, sorry for going so far off topic!