Oh cmon.. this takes all the skill out of shooting...

Where is the outrage from seasoned snipers?

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi


That's a far cry from installing a laser to point out of the front of the bullet, which would seriously compromise its killing capability.

It is a far cry from making the hole system work together but the point is that it is being worked on and they have gotten that far. Im not saying I think its going to be a good system but it might be good enough so a person with minimal skills can score a hit from a mile away.

the sniper doesnt even have to paint target an undercover op can paint with invisible designator then the sniper could fire from long distance cover and bullet would appear out of nowhere.

Originally posted by Aim64C
I see the M-107 .50cal rifle as the target for an eventual production model of this type of round. They will have to configure it to work with a rifled bore, however - which will probably prove quite difficult.

Otherwise, you are looking at a very expensive bullet that requires a specialized firing platform with a questionable amount of penetrating capability.

That is likely to generate very little interest, even from the special forces communities.

You wouldn't need rifling in barrels anymore. rifling in barrels reduces FPS/energy. The .50 caliber sniper rifle can have a interchangeable smooth bore barrel.....for REAL long range sniper work. Aircraft 20mm cannons would have each and every round guided to the opposing aircraft, missile, or PEOPLE......Dog Fighting would be a 1 sided affair.

We started putting rifling in barrels for more accuracy....with these new bullets.....rifling is no longer needed.

Originally posted by RedGolem
It is a far cry from making the hole system work together but the point is that it is being worked on and they have gotten that far. Im not saying I think its going to be a good system but it might be good enough so a person with minimal skills can score a hit from a mile away.

Also don't forget the factor that when the Military tells us they gave invented something and release it to the public. its already 10 plus years out of date

Originally posted by RedGolem

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi


That's a far cry from installing a laser to point out of the front of the bullet, which would seriously compromise its killing capability.

It is a far cry from making the hole system work together but the point is that it is being worked on and they have gotten that far. Im not saying I think its going to be a good system but it might be good enough so a person with minimal skills can score a hit from a mile away.

I don't think that it's about designing a weapon for people with minimal skills.

I think that this is a weapon system tailor-made for elite shooters to better ensure a one-shot one-kill philosophy. If you're a sniper who just spent a few days crawling through miles of crap just to kill an enemy general, then you need to make that shot count.

I can't specifically see this as being a great assassination weapon (for the time being) simply because the bullet would be recovered and it would be rather obvious as to who would be deployed with this technology.

pretty expensive deer hunting ammo
I think just sensor activated game cameras with a pistol on board would be simpler and cheaper..
deer passes in front of camera....BANG got picture with deer

A laser shining on you gives your position away, there are sensors that can measure all wavelengths of light and as soon as you are being lased you know where your attacker is. This really is cool technology.

Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi


I can't specifically see this as being a great assassination weapon (for the time being) simply because the bullet would be recovered and it would be rather obvious as to who would be deployed with this technology.

Agreed, but what I see is some one getting a hold of the weapon and the ammo who has his own agenda, terror. That is why I said some one with minimal skills would use it to bring down a high value target. On the flip side I expect new defenses will come about also.